Wouldja (PIITB clearly off the table, edition)
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I just think it's more suited for high school kids that are a little more mature and can handle that type of language is all. I have three kids and at that age I don't think they would of handled it appropriately is all. I'm not suggesting book burning or getting rid of it all together. Just think it's more suited to a little older student is all.
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C'mon Goldie, we are trying to keep it classy up in this thread!
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I do agree with you, actually.
That said, if it is "age inappropriate" it's BARELY age inappropriate. And the book sounds like an excellent one overall. As the author noted, it's not like it is PROMOTING any type of sex acts. Rather, it is using the crass and inappropriate language of the characters quoted as a negative example. Which, really, is something this Karen should be in favor of.
Agreed. It’s always the women that bring up poop and sex in every thread.
I was on the waitlist for that book but never got it. I had to settle for reading:
“Charlene’s Chocolate Factory”
“Where the Red Fern Grows, so does my Love for Sodomy”
“Black Beauty Butts”
“To Kill a Mockingbird and Anal Warts”
“Little Women PIITB”
“Where the Sidewalk Ends….Anal Begins”
Can't disagree with any of that. That's to civil of a debate though. So your wife is ugly. Or your mom likes ugly men. Or something like that.
Although you're totally on point with the content and it's intent regarding the dehumanization of minorities, I must add that every motivation in my life since the age of 12 has focused on this, "hand on the titties; put it in her coin box.”
You would shudder at the number of middle school kids my wife has delivered as an OB/GYN. This banning this book isn't protecting anyone.
That will go way down when kids stop learning about sex and impure thoughts. Kimmie is working on it.
Based on what you posted earlier, that crass and inappropriate language is exactly what me and my friends used in Jr High. I mean, we weren't above dropping f-bombs, s***, a**holes at that age, what's a cornhole?
Heck, we were quoting Sheriff Buford T Justice in like 3rd and 4th grades, you sumbitches.
I guess going in the cornhole instead of the coinbox would, at least theoretically lighten your wife's workload...
Maybe if they read more books featuring butt sex...
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If only some mom had spoken up at a school board meeting when you were a youth. A lifetime of sad degeneracy could have been avoided!
I feel horrible for her children. You know the other kids in middle school and well into high school will be talking to them about anal sex.
Nobody believes you lady, and you may as well have worn this shirt to your ‘protest’:
Nobody believes you lady, and you may as well have worn this shirt to your ‘protest’:
I woulda gone Baylor Bears myself but aTm would work too.
I don’t think that it’s the ass surfing that she’s offended by at all, it’s the Mexicans.
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I had one friend that would have piped up with "Oh, f*** off b****" in front of everyone. Because he did that, at 12, in front of his parents...to a teacher.
Overall, the book sounds WAY mature all around in concept for random access middle school students, it sounds like there's a lot of mature themes and ideas, way beyond the use of the word cornhole, which is likely the least of it.
Pretty huge difference between a ten year old and a 15 year old as well. A 10- or 11- year old checking that book out without context or understanding the themes is dicey, and a lot different to me than an 8th grade honors advanced literature class assigning it and discussing it in class.
I don't think it should be banned for pornographic reasons, and the prurient aspect is certainly doesn't sound the defining character of the book. I'd be way more concerned about how a kid that age is interpreting and absorbing the ethnic and misogynistic aspect of the events portrayed...are we sure they're getting the right takeaway?
I would be a little irritated if my fifth grader just brought it home randomly from the school library, same as I would feel about a LOT of great literature or movies. That seems well ahead of the curve for a 11 year old, and I would prefer something as nuanced and complex (and potentially upsetting) as that be up to me as a parent to decide if my 11 year old has the maturity and context to read it.
By age 15, I think a book like that is way more in the middle of the curve.
Some common sense would go a long way. Imagine a world where a school librarian could just be like "No, you can't check that out, its too old for you" without either requiring a state law be passed or worrying about being doxxed by LGBTQ activists.
Worked pretty well from 1436 to about 45 minutes ago. This world.
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You mention 10 year-olds and 5th graders. This is a middle school. Here in Iowa, at least, that is 6th-8th grade and 11 to 13 year olds primarily.
I would agree the book isn't appropriate for 6th graders, but absolutely is for 8th graders.
I would think the librarians and educators at the school should be allowed to determine which kids and classes should have access to the material, not this anal-sex ranting Karen.
Always hear this argument and always reject it.
What they hear from each other and someone’s older brother does not justify what they should hear/read from a school-sanctioned book.
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The point is the book uses that type of language in an entirely different, far more educational and thoughtful way.
So it seems absolutely pointless for parents like Karen here to try and quash legitimate, well-written, thoughtful, vetted-by-educators-and-librarians literature while the entire REST of their kids' world is awash in tawdry, pornographic and filthy crap --- which if any of them have access to television or internet --- is a lot.
It's like putting a bandaid on a wound that requires a tourniquet --- absolutely pointless.
If it’d shut her up
Concerned Mother Interrupts A School Board Meeting With Anal Sex Rant
A COVID-related school board meeting in Austin, TX took quite the turn when a mother interrupted the session by ranting about anal sex. It began on Wednesday when Kara Bell interrupted the meeting to scold the board on allowing a sexually explicit book to be in the middle school library. Bell told the board that she wanted the book removed.
“I do not want my children to learn about anal sex in middle school,” Bell told the board. “I’ve never had anal sex. I don’t want to have anal sex. I don’t want my kids having anal sex. I want you to start focusing on education and not public health!”
The book in question, Out of Darkness by Ashley Hope Pérez “chronicles a love affair between an African American boy and a Mexican American girl against the backdrop of a horrific 1937 explosion in East Texas, which killed nearly 300 schoolchildren and teachers.”
According to reports, the book has since been removed. “A district possesses significant discretion to determine the content of its school libraries,” a Lake Travis Independent School District spokesperson told reporters. “A district must, however, exercise its discretion in a manner consistent with the First Amendment.”
The spokesperson added: “A district shall not remove materials from a library for the purpose of denying students access to ideas with which the district disagrees. A district may remove materials, because they are pervasively vulgar or based solely upon the educational suitability of the books in question.”
Dear penthouse forums,
….When her thumbs started twitching as she said “ANAL SEX!!!” With that sharp tongue I knew she was worked up. The next thing I knew she grabbed me as she was walking away from the podium and pulled me to a back closet, right in the counsel chamber…
….When her thumbs started twitching as she said “ANAL SEX!!!” With that sharp tongue I knew she was worked up. The next thing I knew she grabbed me as she was walking away from the podium and pulled me to a back closet, right in the counsel chamber…
