A poster up thread mentioned it. I was referring to instances where it is criticized on this board or other forums from time to time.
Xavier/Solon Game
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They actually have around 50 kids on their varsity team, they allow the sophomore team to dress for playoffs....but I’m sure you knew that.
Funny how you don't see Coach Schulte's minions and others out looking at scrawny little flute players in their off time to recruit to keep the school alive.
Haha, this is great. Yep, the whole staff is out “recruiting”. Why don’t you check to see where the starters went to elementary and middle school. Unless the coach is out identifying 5 year olds as potential varsity starters and getting them to start school in the catholic school system in kindergarten, in which case he would be the best recruiter if all time. I’m assuming Xavier beat you or your kid at something once upon a time.
I'll do you one better--i'm a catholic school boy myself. It's within their rights and i have no skin in the game, but to say it isn't happening--and a lot--is completely ignorant...perhaps by choice.
I’m pretty sure these coaches are not going around town looking for kids to get to transfer but that’s completely off the subject....I️ only saw bits of pieces of the game but never heard Linderbaum’s name although I️ don’t think Xavier ran up the middle much. I’m not too worried about this kid, he has all the tools to be a stud at the next level. Glad iowa scooped him up.
The students and parents get recruitment letters after they are observed at metro football.
Hopefully Iowa implements a multiplier sometime in the near future for private schools like other states have already done.
Do tell. What is the inherit advantage? I have heard this old canard for 40 years and no one has been able to prove it.
Since 1972 Catholic/private schools have won the 4A championship 11 times.
In 3A they have won it 3 times.
In 2A they have won it 7 times
In 1A they have won it 11 times
In A they have won it 1 time.
Since this started as a thread on Xavier, their 2017 enrollment is 702 total students. Jefferson, Kennedy have more than twice as many students and Washington has just under twice as many. But hey, I'm absolutely certain there is an inherit advantage even though the statistics don't support the conclusion.
I agree with this sentiment. Looking at Illinois schools, the Joliet Catholic, Providence, Montini, Mt. Carmel, St. Ritas of the world have consistently performed well in football. I live in a town where a few years back both public schools combined for 1 win and the Catholic school entered the playoffs undefeated. And it's nothing new, my father years ago was the only non-Catholic on a Catholic high schools baseball team and he was the only one all state. Coincidence not really.
Shaun Beyer (Iowa TE) and Zach Daniels (Iowa Baseball) went to catholic middle schools and then to Kennedy. Did Kennedy recruit them or is it ok since they are going from catholic to public? It happens at every school. If you don’t think it does, you are blind.
To gain better perspective how many private scools make up each class. And do the percentages make sense to the percentage of titles won in that period. Also what is the avg. Win pct of private schools vs public schools by each class. Don't get me wrong I don't know much about private school Iowa football, but I do believe in major metro areas it does play a role. Look at all the private schools in New Jersey and the DMV.
A few notes. The state determines which class a school plays in.
The Illinois multiplier would apply to every Iowa school so nothing would change.
Private schools recruit but probably aren't as good at it as public schools. Public schools get paid to take in OE kids.
Linderbaum has technique and will be fine at Iowa.
Multipliers aren't in very many states and haven't really had a significant impact.
A Solon fan should stay away from a recruiting discussion like the op did. He just struck out because his team got whipped. It happens.
By percentage, his numbers would support a huge advantage for the private schools. It’s a weird post.
it is beyond crazy to argue that a private school pulling from a population of 130k has the same advantages of typical 3A town.
a multiplier of 2 to 1 isn't even fair. However I would be comfortable with a private school being given a 2x multiplier with the private school playing a minimum of 1 class below their towns public schools classifications.
a multiplier of 2 to 1 isn't even fair. However I would be comfortable with a private school being given a 2x multiplier with the private school playing a minimum of 1 class below their towns public schools classifications.
I played on a private school Iowa State championship football AND basketball team. I got a good laugh at all the screaming about how many of us were “recruited”. We ALL went to catholic middle school, actually lost a couple athletes to public school that I went to middle school with that may have helped our teams. Public school parents would cry and wine about us being “recruited”My father was not a wealthy man. Worked hard to send us kids to private school. He sure could have used some “scholarship” help but got none. I was starting running back and a captain. No one received “scholarships” on our team. Not saying it doesnt happen with the recruiting and scholarships but no where near what the whiners think. Closest thing to ‘’recruiting” I did was coaches would send us to talk to the middle school kids about our experience. But we never “targeted” athletes.
Feel free to show where this set up has worked to reduce the private school championships in a significant way. Have you ever thought to look at the disadvantages that schools in that situation face? 2 successful 4A schools in the same city, 2 3A schools in the area, a traditional 1A power. Did I mention that those schools are essentially free to attend?
You act like they are selecting an “all star team”. Remember the parents PAY to send their children to these schools. That’s a tough sell when you’re selling against FREE
