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You are BF (minus the press box tirade) on Sat, what's your gameplan?

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Do we unleash the famous Greg Davis 3-4 TE set like we did in CBus back in 2013? Does Butler start and we send Wadley to the slot for several plays? Or, do we continue to ram Wadley into numbers disadvantages in the middle against a very stout OSU front?

I still say Iowa hangs around awhile in this game, perhaps into 4th quarter because....
  • Home game, some Kinnick magic
  • Iowa as double digit dogs at home rarely lose big (see Mich and PSU spreads over the years)
  • OSU is challenged on special teams, we need to capitalize
  • Emotional, draining, come from behind win last week vs PSU, Sparty next week..sandwich letdown game?
  • I'm not sure Barrett can play that well again, although we had better not bull rush 4 DL, drop 7 and let JT run or lob balls all over the field like he did vs. Neb and others
  • We need to be at least +2 on turnovers to have a shot
I think OSU starts slow the question will be if we can take advantage, Iowa needs at least 24 IMO to have a chance to win this game, Go Hawks!
 
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Johnsoda123 said:
The only vulnerabilities of this tOSU team that I see are pass defense and special teams. Stanley on the move and quick hitters in the seam.
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Whatever we do, hopefully empty out the playbook, whatever is in there bring it out this week! I'd like us to go single back shotgun, spread field and run Akrum and then zone read him and throw. I think we'll see Big Nate with about 40 pass attempts Sat.
 
Obviously Oblivious said:
Throw, throw and throw again. Then sprinkle in the run game as necessary. If we stubbornly attempt to establish the run, our goose is cooked.
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This is the answer. Also tell my WRs and TEs that they have hands of stone and suck. See if I can get them a little chippy before this one. But Iowa has to throw and throw and throw. Running isn't going to work unless it is the last thing OSU expects.
 
BigOHawk said:
Do we unleash the famous Greg Davis 3-4 TE set like we did in CBus back in 2013? Does Butler start and we send Wadley to the slot for several plays? Or, do we continue to ram Wadley into numbers disadvantages in the middle against a very stout OSU front?

I still say Iowa hangs around awhile in this game, perhaps into 4th quarter because....
  • Home game, some Kinnick magic
  • Iowa as double digit dogs at home rarely lose big (see Mich and PSU spreads over the years)
  • OSU is challenged on special teams, we need to capitalize
  • Emotional, draining, come from behind win last week vs PSU, Sparty next week..sandwich letdown game?
  • I'm not sure Barrett can play that well again, although we had better not bull rush 4 DL, drop 7 and let JT run or lob balls all over the field like he did vs. Neb and others
  • We need to be at least +2 on turnovers to have a shot
I think OSU starts slow the question will be if we can take advantage, Iowa needs at least 24 IMO to have a chance to win this game, Go Hawks!
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
Let me be the first to go out on a limb and guess that OSU has done some preparation this week for stopping the run.
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Play action passes will they work against Ohio State since their defensive line is so good, or would Iowa be better having the quarterback in shotgun and have Wadley in backfield to run or catch a pass. Play action passes don't give Stanley a lot of time to spot a receiver.
 
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BigOHawk said:
Do we unleash the famous Greg Davis 3-4 TE set like we did in CBus back in 2013?
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Your TE's should play a big role. While Mike Gesecki did not have a huge game last Saturday, he had a good one, and we have at times struggled with good, tall TE's who can run good routes. As many as you have who fit that description, should see the field a lot.
 
Iowa Hog said:
Play action passes will they work against Ohio State since their defensive line is so good, or would Iowa be better having the quarterback in shotgun and have Wadley in backfield to run or catch a pass. Play action passes don't give Stanley a lot of time to spot a receiver.
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Disadvantage of shotgun against us is that as fast and athletic as our DE's are, the shotgun formation gives the QB very little additional time anyway to spot the open receiver, while greatly increasing the chances that your RB will be caught in the backfield. See tOSU/PSU game, especially 4th qtr, for example.

IMHO, working out of the shotgun is an almost certain formula for defeat, while play action offers at least a little hope for success.
 
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Iowa Hog said:
Play action passes will they work against Ohio State since their defensive line is so good, or would Iowa be better having the quarterback in shotgun and have Wadley in backfield to run or catch a pass. Play action passes don't give Stanley a lot of time to spot a receiver.
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What exactly are you asking?

Play action passes are mostly about freezing linebackers and catching safeties cheating up to stop the run. They really aren't designed to fool defensive linemen.

If the OL can't block, Stanley isn't going to have time to spot a receiver, regardless, whether he's in shotgun or under center.
 
Abbysdad said:
Disadvantage of shotgun against us is that as fast and athletic as our DE's are, the shotgun formation gives the QB very little additional time anyway to spot the open receiver, while greatly increasing the chances that your RB will be caught in the backfield. See tOSU/PSU game, especially 4th qtr, for example.

IMHO, working out of the shotgun is an almost certain formula for defeat, while play action offers at least a little hope for success.
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I think the issue with Iowa's use of shotgun had been they were going to it primarily in obvious passing situations. Most teams aren't successful on 3rd and long, and that seemed to be about the only time Iowa would go shotgun.

I like Stanley as a passer and think he has the potential to be a prolific passer in the B1G. However, a lot of the problem so far, IMHO, has been Stanley having to deal with a lot of young, inexperienced WRs. I know this won't happen in Iowa's system, but I think Stanley, if given time to gel with his WRs, could be very effective out of the shotgun.
 
Have to hope we go to the screen pass a couple times and maybe a couple QB draws to keep them honest. Got a big QB, let him run a few times. Didn't CJ run a few QB sneaks on 1st down to pick up some nice gains the last couple years? I like the play action too, they have to respect Wadley first.
 
Obviously Oblivious said:
Throw, throw and throw again. Then sprinkle in the run game as necessary. If we stubbornly attempt to establish the run, our goose is cooked.
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That usually only works when you have a quarterback. Stanley has been nothing but a deer in the headlights this year. If we try to establish the passing game, we lose. If we try to establish the run, we lose. The only way I see winning this game is with a combination of breaking a few huge plays and defensive or special teams scores.
 
On 1st down I run Wadley up the middle. Expected result 2-3 yard loss. On 2nd down I run the stretch play for Wadley to the left side. Expected result 4-5 yard loss.

On 3rd down I run a screen for Easley and hope he can make approx. 5 tOsu defenders miss in space.
 
I think Stanley has shown enough passing ability, especially to TE's, to make teams back off a little bit with their LB's.
 
I think teaching a simple thing like a QB pump-fake can go a long way.....It's kind of an old trick. :) It gives some separation when understood. And play-action doesn't hurt. The problem is....IOWA doesn't have the athletes, coaches, recruiting, or playbook to make small details work. When people talk about execution being a problem......that problem lies on the coaches.
 
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BlackNGoldBleeder said:
Let me be the first to go out on a limb and guess that OSU has done some preparation this week for stopping the run.
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Ummm..no. :) To be fair, they prepped for short side zone stretches back in 2004 and haven't prepared for us since then. You do know the board continually reminds us that Iowa is so predictable and easy to prep for you literally don't need to do it? :)
 
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What should BF do? Hide. Ask to be demoted back to offensive line coach.

On the bright side, Iowa may break the record for 3-and-outs if they don't turn the ball over.
 
Quote "Let me be the first to go out on a limb and guess that OSU has done some preparation this week for stopping the run".

Would OSU even need to do any prep for stopping "our" running game??
 
elipse said:
Quote "Let me be the first to go out on a limb and guess that OSU has done some preparation this week for stopping the run".

Would OSU even need to do any prep for stopping "our" running game??
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Just look at game film from 2013, the last time they played Iowa. That should give them a pretty good indication of what to expect. I wouldn't suggest going back too much further because Iowa used to have talent in the 2000s.
 
You have to spread them out and use the short passing game bc and take shots when you can. Don’t turn it over and on the flip side you have to force Barrett to make tough throws and get some INTs.
 
Running the ball from under center and passing from shotgun have both been less than optimal this year. The reason? We don't pass enough from under center and we don't run enough from shotgun.

I've said this ever since GD took over, and it's still an issue. A successful offense (unless you can just out-athlete the other team) needs to have balance. This isn't just run/pass balance in general. It's balance from each formation in the form of run vs pass as well as balance in the form of what part of the field you attack (left, right, short, medium, deep). This keeps a defense honest and spreads them out.

If the defense can rule out type of play, or where it's going, based solely on the formation, you've made life really easy on the D. Other than obvious passing situations due to down/distance, the D should be guessing on pass vs run and to where on every play. If they're not, you're giving up the single biggest advantage you have as the team calling the plays. You need the defense to be reactive, not proactive.
 
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MeetTheFerentz said:
One of the most grossly inaccurate statements I've read on here in a long time.
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Stanley single-handedly lost us the Michigan State game. How many wide open receivers has he overthrown now? I lost count when it got into triple digits.

I'm not normally the guy who digs on QB1, but the reason teams can put 7 in the box against us is because they know there's no threat downfield.
 
IACub said:
Stanley single-handedly lost us the Michigan State game. How many wide open receivers has he overthrown now? I lost count when it got into triple digits.

I'm not normally the guy who digs on QB1, but the reason teams can put 7 in the box against us is because they know there's no threat downfield.
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"Triple digits". Holy Hyperbole batman!
 
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