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I hope he lands someplace that can give him more playing time. Best of luck.Good,, I kinda assumed we wanted him in order to have an inside track on his brother. Plus the kid didnt even make the 105 man roster so he was never going to play. Probably go to Ohio U or Miami of Ohio or something.
Good,, I kinda assumed we wanted him in order to have an inside track on his brother. Plus the kid didnt even make the 105 man roster so he was never going to play. Probably go to Ohio U or Miami of Ohio or something.
So Kirk Ferentz was the lead recruiter of Hilliard?Ho-hum. Just another Ferentz Fallout. We have to expect about 10 to 12 in each underwhelming recruiting class before the class graduates.
Good,, I kinda assumed we wanted him in order to have an inside track on his brother. Plus the kid didnt even make the 105 man roster so he was never going to play. Probably go to Ohio U or Miami of Ohio or something.
So Kirk Ferentz was the lead recruiter of Hilliard?
Ferentz is ultimately responsible because of 2 key factors:No, but KF is ultimately responsible for having a turnover ratio that is playing a major factor in our mediocre results. He is ultimately responsible for offering a scholarship to a kid that got beat out and didn't even play RB his senior year of high school. Whatever the motive behind this offer initially, it seemed like a mistake by week 1 of his senior year of HS.
He gone
Nope,his son was.So Kirk Ferentz was the lead recruiter of Hilliard?
I do not think so. Attrition is bad when it is a probable starter. When it is some one who will never see the field is a good thing. So I guess you have to look at it on a case by case basis. Now we have an extra scholarship to go find an Offensive tackle.We had 3 scholarship punters last year but apparently losing RB's is AOK with Kirk. Given our track record with Backs....heck no big deal amiright!?
We have lost 8 players in 2015. is that a bad sign?
http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/hilliard-leaves-iowa-20150821
Someone needs to tell the writer of that article that Colin Goebel also left the team this year.We had 3 scholarship punters last year but apparently losing RB's is AOK with Kirk. Given our track record with Backs....heck no big deal amiright!?
We have lost 8 players in 2015. is that a bad sign?
http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/hilliard-leaves-iowa-20150821
Get back to me when it's somebody on the two deep.We had 3 scholarship punters last year but apparently losing RB's is AOK with Kirk. Given our track record with Backs....heck no big deal amiright!?
We have lost 8 players in 2015. is that a bad sign?
http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/hilliard-leaves-iowa-20150821
Ho-hum. Just another Power 5 Fallout. Nearly all schools have to expect about 10 to 12 in each recruiting class before the class graduates.
Seriously? Kirk Ferentz is the LEAD RECRUITER for every kid that signs with Iowa. Same as Harbaugh at Michigan, Kill at Minnesota, Meyer at FOSU. You get the picture................So Kirk Ferentz was the lead recruiter of Hilliard?
Get back to me when it's somebody on the two deep.
Get back to me when it's somebody on the two deep.
"Are future potential starters" Give me a ****ing break. First you cry like babies because all he got was MAC like school offers and Iowa offered him and he came. Now he's a future potential starter and he is leaving. OMG OMG OMG! Your kind and blinded by your pettiness. Anything to lay at the feet of the coaching staff.Are future potential starters unimportant? you don't care about next year or the following?
IOWA is a developmental program, Kirk has made that abundantly clear. It's hard to have a developmental program when the players leave before they are developed.
Are future potential starters unimportant? you don't care about next year or the following?
IOWA is a developmental program, Kirk has made that abundantly clear. It's hard to have a developmental program when the players leave before they are developed.
Ferentz is ultimately responsible because of 2 key factors:
1. His staff decisions impact attrition because not every position coach is good at pushing players without also pissing (some of) them off. For example, Kaz was that way on the DL ... and we experienced attrition accordingly. Similarly, Phil Parker is known to be a bit of a yeller ... and DB is another spot that we frequently suffer attrition.
(I was actually gonna say something similar to this point. I don't know that I'd be comparing Phil to Kaz though. All coaches can yell. It's another thing to be a straight a**.)
2. His decision to place such an emphasis on fundamentals is likely viewed as highly boring to A LOT of players. Rather than relying upon scheme to compensate for poor technique - Ferentz's philosophy is to develop players into hard workers and diligent technicians. As a result, many Hawk players have been VERY success away from football ... and many others have been so adept at their football position that they've been successful in the NFL. However, in this day and age of ego and instant gratification ... this approach doesn't jive with every player. (Hmm....that sounds more like a personal/player problem than a Ferentz problem.)
"Are future potential starters" Give me a ****ing break. First you cry like babies because all he got was MAC like school offers and Iowa offered him and he came. Now he's a future potential starter and he is leaving. OMG OMG OMG! Your kind and blinded by your pettiness. Anything to lay at the feet of the coaching staff.
what are you talking about i see Matt Roth's, Jonathan Babineux's, Abdul Hodge's, and Bob Sanders type guys on this team.......His developmental program hasn't work for the past 5 years and based on the 2016 class with the numerous 2* rated recruits it appears to be trending further down the ladder. The program has become a regrouping process hoping for the best rather than a reload one wonders what Barta is talking about when he states "the base is solid" lets get serious. Hoping for the best this year but I'm not very optimistic the ranks are very thin with little or no impact players.
No ... Ferentz is simply the face of the program and the organizational mastermind. He is NOT holding the hand of each recruit throughout the recruiting process. He also lets the staff promote candidates that they feel would be good additions to the program.Seriously? Kirk Ferentz is the LEAD RECRUITER for every kid that signs with Iowa. Same as Harbaugh at Michigan, Kill at Minnesota, Meyer at FOSU. You get the picture................
1. His staff decisions impact attrition because not every position coach is good at pushing players without also pissing (some of) them off. For example, Kaz was that way on the DL ... and we experienced attrition accordingly. Similarly, Phil Parker is known to be a bit of a yeller ... and DB is another spot that we frequently suffer attrition.
(I was actually gonna say something similar to this point. I don't know that I'd be comparing Phil to Kaz though. All coaches can yell. It's another thing to be a straight a**.)
2. His decision to place such an emphasis on fundamentals is likely viewed as highly boring to A LOT of players. Rather than relying upon scheme to compensate for poor technique - Ferentz's philosophy is to develop players into hard workers and diligent technicians. As a result, many Hawk players have been VERY success away from football ... and many others have been so adept at their football position that they've been successful in the NFL. However, in this day and age of ego and instant gratification ... this approach doesn't jive with every player. (Hmm....that sounds more like a personal/player problem than a Ferentz problem.)
In 2002, we just barely beat Miami of Ohio. That was a "tuneup" game.When your program is winning, is a national story, and you are a top 5 coach such a loss is irrelevant, and fits into the "master plan" the top 5 coach has in place...
When your program struggles to beat teams that once were "tuneups" for the real season...then player attrition is a bigger deal. The "master plan" no longer exists... Desperation, ineptitude, panic replace the "genius" that once was.
You mean the Ben Roethlisberger lead RedHawks?In 2002, we just barely beat Miami of Ohio. That was a "tuneup" game.
Iowa was listed in his 5 star brother's final 4 choices along with OSU, Bama and Notre Dame. Do you really think he would have even considered (or visited) Iowa without CJ being here?Recruited him to get his brother? Is that what Iowa is doing with 90% of the 2016 class? I hope so because Hilliard had better offers than most of this years group.
He didn't even try to get his brother to come to Iowa either, he made that clear.
You mean the Ben Roethlisberger lead RedHawks?
Iowa was listed in his 5 star brother's final 4 choices along with OSU, Bama and Notre Dame. Do you really think he would have even considered (or visited) Iowa without CJ being here?
Good,, I kinda assumed we wanted him in order to have an inside track on his brother. Plus the kid didnt even make the 105 man roster so he was never going to play. Probably go to Ohio U or Miami of Ohio or something.
The problem with this kid leaving and others like him isnt so much that he is a guy buried on the depth chart, its that every year Iowa takes 10-12 guys like him that either leave the program or never make the two deeps. This leaves huge holes in the two deeps every year and requires underclassmen who are in no way ready to start or see the field have to start or play significant mins during the season.
This has created a problem for Iowa and has started the programs slip downward becuase other B1G programs like Wisconsin, MSU and now Minny have been doing a better job then Iowa at developing and retaining players.