I have addressed your concerns. There’s no evidence to support your belief that what could happen is actually happening.
Iowa House passes bill to ban ballot drop boxes, shorten return deadline
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Do you do you banking over the internet without secure wifi or connection, without security software, and without a secure and private password? Maybe you do, but I prefer all the security possible just in case.
Democrats are against voter ID laws. They lose credibility on these issues right from the start with that alone.
What is the proof that drop boxes aren't secure?
Kaufman said they are not secure, so they are not secure. Duh.
You have zero idea how absentee voting works if you think there aren’t security measures in place.
Where oh where did this lack of “trust” in the current system come from?
Sounds like the political party that is offering solutions for problems that don’t exist is a good fit for you.
Carry on.
there’s no argument that can sway him because hes basing his opinion on nothing.Where oh where did this lack of “trust” in the current system come from?
Sounds like the political party that is offering solutions for problems that don’t exist is a good fit for you.
Carry on.
If it's worked since 1776, why the need to change? You know why and everyone else knows too.
The appearance is fine. People aren't trying to vote illegally. The perception can't be changed when people are looking for a reason on why they keep losing elections and don't want to face the reality that their point of view sucks and most people don't agree with them.
Worse, he's basing it on feelings.
Do you think people seeing these voter suppression laws get passed will trust the system and the results?
Just stop. Youre a reasonable poster. We have two choices. That between a mailbox at a house, which has absolutely no protection and a locked secure ballot box. How is the unguarded mailbox ok and the locked drop box a threat? Just admit the obvious. The Iowa GOP is trying to limit the way people can return ballots. It has nothing to do with securing elections. I’m basically fine with the voter number. I’m fine even with them having to be returned a day earlier.
The drop box restrictions is simply being done because Democrat focused areas have done it.
Put the entire system back to where it was pre-covid and the vast majority will be satisfied...
I'm really hoping the GOP refuses to encourage early voting again this cycle
Worked so well in 2020.
Worked so well in 2020.
Do your own research. This has been discuss as nauseous here and I’m not doing your homework for you.
all of our election processes has safeguards in place.
I have done my homework. Absentee Ballots are vulnerable to fraud and difficult to prove. But you already know that, don't you.
THANK GOD WE'RE SOLVING PROBLEMS THAT BASED ON NOTHING BUT SOME PEOPLES FEELINGS!
THE SCOURGE OF ASSUMED VOTER FRAUD!
THE SCOURGE OF ASSUMED VOTER FRAUD!
No they aren’t. Your statement is made up. Fraud doesn’t occur on a level that is meaningful to any election. In addition, people are working more hours and have busier lives.
You are being willfully blind if you don't recognize the potential for fraud with absentee ballots.
It is ok for us to disagree whether or not the risk of fraud is outweighed by the benefits of allowing absentee ballots.
Two things
1) The vast majority were already satisfied and had faith in the laws during the 2020 election. There is a very vocal minority of people that could not accept the results and created this narrative of wide spread voter fraud.
2) Do you think people will have faith in the system when it's proven that millions of eligible voters are denied the ability to cast their vote due to unnecessary laws that are written in way that impacts certain groups of people more than others?
Could a person risk committing a felony to vote absentee? Absolutely. It just doesn’t happen with any degree of frequency.
Of course there’s potential for fraud, and there are various safeguards to prevent them. You are focusing on the former and ignoring the latter.
Why don't they trust it? Oh yeah, because a corrupt president and his minions told them so.
FFS, this isn't about "appearance" or "aspects of the system". If Donald Trump loses an election, he and his supporters are going to claim fraud no matter what.
This bill is about the GOP trying to choose it's electorate by throwing up barriers to those they think are going to vote for the other party.
If nobody else has addressed it yet, one of the major components of this bill is the making felons eligible for the ballot. The "Law and Order" Party strikes again.
Just so comprehensively full of shit.
Just so comprehensively full of shit.
If that were the case they better develop some real barriers then,.. because this bill too reasonable.
Can someone please detail why drop boxes aren't secure? @NorthernHawkeye is struggling to answer.
This coming from a member of the party who also swears that our southern border is secure and and they have congressional testimony to prove it.
In Iowa?Keeps people like this from voting >
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Sake the fell up son… we are talking Iowa here…I could give an ears ass how those good ol’boys run elections in the Ballard bigoted South country! I want Uowa ejections to be fair and accessible for qualified voters. Reducing polling hours of operations does neither…just a ploy to restrict eligible voters from voting.
Absentee voting has been greatly restricted and for no reason in Iowa over the past decade. The abuses in Iowa absentee voting the past decade can be counted in one hand….and generally reflect abuses by Republican voters. It’s strictly a Republican effort to restrict eligible voters from casting ballots. There is no reasons, cases or evidence for passage of these restrictive voting rules.
yes because 20 days/ 3 weeks of early voting and EXPANDING mail-in voting period by 2 days makes voting ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
This is just so unfair!
You can agree that your formed opinion is not based on facts, correct?
First lovely deflection; feel free to provide a link to where i said that. Or to any member of the party who said it’s secure.This coming from a member of the party who also swears that our southern border is secure and and they have congressional testimony to prove it.
Second, stick to the thread topic or just admit you’ve got nothing here.
The average person can't provide you proof. But we can point to mathematical incongruencies.
Prior to 2020, we had xxx number of ballots absentee or mail in etc. In each of those elections a % of those ballots were rejected due to signature issues or incorrectly being filled out etc. And those figures have remained fairly consistent.
Then 2020 hits, and the number of mail-in, absentee, drop box ballots EXPLODES. And the number of ballot rejections actually went DOWN?
So in elections prior to 2020... let's say 1 million people voted absentee/mail in per election. Roughly 3% of ballots would be rejected for various reasons. 2020 hits, and now we have 30 million mail-in/absentee ballots, with less than 1% rejection rate. That is a mathematical impossibility.
So we have to restrict voting because you're a paranoid fool?
