Bully for you. BTW, commits are NOT carved in stone. I expect 3-4 on that 2015 list to SIGN elsewhere
come Feb.4. They have been recruited over.
I know that two of them ARE looking at other schools. Plus, one OG commit, Venzell Boulware moved WAY up in the rankings after having a very good senior year in high school and is taking a trip to Ohio State as C.U.M. offered him after OSU won the N/C. Hard to not be interested in a team that just won the N/C. But we already have two of his classmates from the previous year, the twin brothers of All Pro Eric Berry who also played for UT,on the team. We are hoping that family ties and close friendship wins out.
Jones came in Jan. 2013 Two players transfered out due to the coaching change. But to date, he has only "Run off" one player and that was due to an allegation of hitting his girlfriend. There wasn't even a police report but he has a No Tolerance policy. The individual, Treyvon Paulk, a RB from Georgia not only did not leave, he has stayed in school, worked in the class room and has petitioned for reinstatement as his girlfriend, from age 12 mind you who followed him to the University, said afterward that he didn't strike her but was holding her arms to make her stop slapping him.
Now, back to your list
In 2012, while Jones was still coaching at Cincinnati, the following happened,
Devante Bourque quit in August of 2012 and went back to Louisiana.
Dion Bonner didn't get into school and went JUCO.
Dante Phillips washed out as an academic failure.
Corradelle Patterson and Darrington Sentimore, Both JUCOs, left after one year for the NFL Draft. Patterson plays for the Vikings while Sentimore is back in Alabama without a college degree.
Now after Dooley was fired and Jones was hired, Daniel Grey didn't want to play for Jones so Jones helped him find another college to transfer to and released him. Grey went to Utah State to play. Same thing with Trent Taylor. He went back to Florida but I lost track of him after that. Both were slow footed DBs
Alden Hill is a Power Back from Ohio. Had Jones used a Fullback and the I formation, he would have played Fullback . But since Jones used the stupid "Spread" formation, there is no need for a Fullback. Hill was too small to play TE so he transfered to a school more suited for his talents.
W/R Drae Bowles was one of those players who was a very good high school player, but couldn't adapt to the far more complex system as well as the defensive backs of the SEC, so he transfered to a D-AA or whatever they refer to the next division in NCAA football.
Daniel McCullers was a JUCO who not only got his degree, but was picked up by Green Bay as a F/A and not only made their practice squad, but saw action. He is a D/T - N/T
R/BQuenshaun Watson was given a scholarship by Dooley when he couldn't get any of the other RB recruits to come to play for him. He was nowhere near being D-1 material, found that out after one season and quit
Nathan Peterman graduated in 3 years. As a Q/B, he was great in high School, great in practice. But during games, he was like a "Deer in the Headlights". He is weighing his options now as to whether to go elsewhere and try anew since as a Graduate Student, he has two years of eligibility and does not have to sit out.
T/E Justin Meredith suffered a career ending knee injury. It was a shame as he was very good. He tried to come back from the injury after several surgeries but had to call it quits. He received a Medical Scholarship
So subtract 13 from your 2012 class total with none of them "Run off" by Jones and lets move on. I hope you are still with me, ok?
In 2013, Jabo Lee didn't make it past the NCAA clearing House.
Malik Brown, Jason Carr and Jason Miller were all very large, somewhat slow DEs recruited by the previous coach. Jones played them as True Freshmen but none of them were fast enough to compete as DEs in the SEC. So in Spring Practice this past year, he tried them at DT along with two other DEs since we only had 2 healthy DTs . Carr who was 300 lbs, sucked at DT so he was told that he was being moved to the OL as we needed help there. He quit saying he refused to play on the OL The other two, Miller and Brown, didn't like having to play DT as they were a tad undersided so both transfered as well.
Paul Harris was a highly touted W/R out of Maryland. He played as a True Freshman, had 1 catch in the opening game and none the rest of the year. Couldn't get off the line or get separation. He transfered to a Kansas JUCO and now is on Louisville's team.
Ryland Jones was a seldom used JUCO DB who graduated this December
Woody Quinn was a JUCO TE/ VolleyBall star in California. He was also a waste of a scholarship. In two years he never saw the field a siingle time, was played over by a Walk-on from Delaware and two True Freshmen. He graduated this past December. It is a shame there was no men's Volleyball team as the University could have gotten something from him in return for the money spent on his scholarship.
Riley Ferguson is a moron. He was a Q/B who came in with Josh Dobbs, the guy who tore your defense apart in the Gator Bowl. Ferguson is BETTER. Last year, both Ferguson and Dobbs were being redshirted while Worley and Peterman were the #1 and # 2 Q/Bs. Ferguson was # 3 and Dobbs #4 Dobbs was actually heading to Arizona State on a BASEBALL Scholarship with Football being his 2nd sport when Jones got him to flip on NLOI Day using UT's Aero-Space Engineering School and the number of NASA grads who have gone through it as the incentive. Dobbs has MENSA level IQ
Peterman broke his thumb on the 1st play in his lone start, against Florida. He managed to get through the 1st half before he told the staff what had happened. Four games later Worley breaks his hand against Alabama. During that time frame, Ferguson was working out hard, expecting to be called on when he stepped wrong during practice and broke the Tibia in his left leg. That's how Dobbs got to play last year.
This year, Ferguson, figuring that he was going to be the starter since he had the most talent, coasted in spring practice and when Fall came, he got royally pissed at being listed as 4th team so he quit and blew his career chance as Peterman folded yet again and Worley took beating after beating due to the brutal early schedule and playing behind an all new OL(4 seniors and a Jr the previous year. Jr left early for the Draft) with 3 Freshman starters and the other two with a total of 5 starts between them, was slammed to the ground once too often and his right shoulder let go. Back to Dobbs again.
So subtract 8 more with NONE of them "Run off" by Jones. We're up to 21 now as 13 + 8 = 21 in pre Common Core Mathematics
Now 2014
Joe Henderson didn't get through the NCAA Clearing House. He went JUCO
Trayvon Paulk had the misfortune of being accused of hitting his childhood sweetheart just a couple of days after the Ray Rice hysteria struck. To date he is the ONLY player "Run off" by Jones
Daniel Helm is a very good TE.Could be a Great one. Great hands and is fearless even though a tad under weight for the position. Played in all 12 games as a True Freshman and started one. But he came from a deeply religious background and didn't like the "Locker-room" profanity and harsh rethoric of some of the coaches and transfered to Duke. I wish him well and applaud him for putting his Faith First in his life. He will be missed.
DE DeWayne Hendrix is from Illinois. He is still in school, fulfilling his LOI obligation, but was given time off 2-3 times during the season to go home. Distance from his family and homesickness is the problem. I am hoping he can overcome that as he has the same potential that our other True Freshman DE, Derek Barnett, the one who made your Outland Winner look bad, has.
If he does leave, Iowa could use him and I believe did recruit him before losing out to UT. He'd be a great pick up for Iowa as distance home would be far less for him. Hope that he does stay though.
Derell Scott, a RB, broke a metatarsal bone in his foot before arriving in August. He was finally cleared to play midway through the season, but in his 2nd game, he broke a bone in his hand, had to have a pin installed, and didn't see action for the rest of the year. He expected to be the #2 RB next season, but when he saw the JUCO R/B AA, The JUCO Offensive POY
Alvin Kamara commit to UT as an EE as well as the #3 APB in the nation Kendall Bussey flip from Nebraska to UT after Nebraska fired Petrino, he bailed and now will sit out a year at East Carolina University, redshirting this coming season and have three years to still play..
D'Andre Payne is a short but speedy C/B from Washington DC He, like the rest played as a True Freshman, but like Scott, saw bigger, faster recruits, including a JUCO CB being recruited in the 2015 class at the position he played and he bailed. Coaches don't recruit JUCOs unless they expect them to play right away. UT has one Junior to be C/B, Cam Sutton who has started all 25 games at UT during his Freshman and Sophomore years expected to be an AA next year already playing one of the two CB positions
Subtract 1 from 31 and that will leave you with 30 as the other 5 will still count against the 85 number until next year even though they are no longer listed as being with the team.
Add 1 + 21 and you get 22
Subtract 22 from 75 and you get, wait for the drum roll, ........................................................... TADA, 53
Now subtract 53 from 85 and you get 32
Does this answer your question on how the numbers work and don't you feel just a bit foolish talking about something you are, or rather were until I educated you, totally ignorant of?
This post was edited on 1/18 12:47 PM by -MDVOL
