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Interlocking hands from neutral? Not sure I fully understand that one. So no bear hugs.. Or is a pinning combo not part of this?
I believe they are talking about when you interlock your fingers with your opponents. So, if we are neutral and I reach my hand out and you counter by reaching out yours and then interlocking your fingers with mine, neither of us can really do anything.
Recommending that teams wear contrasting-colored singlets at dual meets.
I could see a scenario where Oky State pulls out the black singlets for a home dual against the Hawks just to mess with us. What would we wear?
Also makes for some pretty good porn... so I've heard anyway.Black on Black...it's not just crime anymore.
I concur. 5 seconds is an eternity unless it's cumulative.The 5 count is way too long. Should be a 2 count or an automatic stall warning. Too many guys hanging on the ankle to prevent escapes last year.
The 5 second rule is really a 10 second rule, because it seems it takes that long for refs to begin their count. Though they did clarify the rule a little better I think. The count starts even if one arm is around the waist. Maybe that was the rule before.
"While officiating the drop-down rule, the referee will immediately begin a five-second count for stalling once the offensive wrestler positions himself with one or both hands below the buttocks of the defensive wrestler. The referee will stop the count when the offensive wrestler improves his position, moves his hold above the buttocks of the defensive wrestler or releases the hold."
I don't think it is the intent at all, but could a referee begin a 5 count for a spiral ride? Your hand is positioned below the defensive wrestler's buttocks, no?
There would be less/no need for the 5-second rule if RT were eliminated. Sure would simplify a large aspect of officiating.So we still have riding time, the dumb assed 5 second rule will be different with every ref, and the ref may, or may not ding the aggressor for the "push-out"??? Seems legit... SMFH.
First of all - it will be hard to game the system by waiting for a 3/4 second count and then going above the waist, then dropping back down below it. Usually when a guy drops down he is losing control of the guy and when he tries to climb back up he will lose control again. Keeping control while going back above the waist is much tougher to do than it sounds. Personally, I think that one rule change helped Matt Brown win a national title more than any other thing (besides hard work and talent etc..). Maybe I should have said it is the thing that pushed him over the top. Otherwise it would have been him and Mike Evans going into a double overtime 0-0 battle.
Also, I think it is good that the powers that be at least (although it has taken way too long) recognize that something has to be done about stalling and they have to let the officials know exactly what it is. Otherwise the officials will not call it. For whatever reason, the officials are afraid to call stalling and the rules committee has to give them permission. I am sure that could be someone's doctoral thesis- Why college officials are afraid to call stalling.
Don't quit your day job.They were waiting for Mike Evans to get done before they implemented it. He always seemed to lift an ankle and drive forward off the mat...
Did you watch any wrestling at all last season? Guys did this all of the time last year.
I'll maintain my skepticism about these rules having any effect until I see it. It really doesn't matter how many rules changes you make, if the officials don't want to follow them then wrestling will continue to suffer. I don't know how to make officials do their jobs but that has to be fixed before any of these rules has any effect.
I couldn't count how many times I saw guys game the system by moving up after every 3-4 count.I remember the PSU guys chasing a guy around the mat and pulling like crazy to keep control. Other than that I do not remember anyone dropping down and back up repeatedly. I hardly saw any hanging on like the previous year or two. I saw a lot of times where the official got to about 3 or 4 and the other kid let the ankle go. I guess i am saying that I think it had a positive effect on the wrestling action overall.
Agree, Gobblin and AFHawk. I don't see why people cling to riding time so dearly. It is not an integral aspect of folkstyle wrestling. If it truly was you would see it at all levels and not just college.
I agree.For some reason I was thinking the rule regarding pushing someone else out of bounds being stalling was enacted to stop this happening while someone has control. For example, top guy pushing the bottom guy out of bounds to prevent him from escaping. I may be off base with this or misremembering. But if I am correct, this doesn't clarify that which could be a huge problem.
it's a nice ploy to "increase" the scoring by making the top man work towards getting a fall...all but eliminates the need for a 5 count now. Just a four count for more points....probably will see an increase in Major decisions...taken down to your back could be down 6-0 before you know it.All I know is this 4 point near fall does not make sense to me
This is exactly what Schopp did with his side headlock against Richards at the last Midlands. Would wait for the ref to get to 4, briefly release his grip and then right back to it. Did it 3 or 4 times while looking the ref in the face. Ref eventually called a stalemate when it was obviously stalling.This rule is still pretty darn easy to game. Drop down, wait for the ref to count to 3/4, come back up above the waist/butt to kill the count, repeat.