serious question for those complaing about the recruiting

[Hawkeye2222]

class rankings

2012 the team went 4-8 with the prior coaches recruits since then these were the new hires involved in recruiting classes of 2013 ,

Davis
Woods a former GA who had no prior recruiting experience and absolutely no established contacts with any HS coaches
BF another coach that had abosolutey no HS contacts or experience before he came to IA

then these were added in to recruit the 2014 class,

White who was hired from the Vikings, didn't bother to look at his bio but I thinking that he was a coach at the college level by the way he has had success in recruiting the East Coast
Kennedy former WR/Assistant RC for TX for 7 years and this year he did get a TX top 100 WR in Smith
Reed another with prior coaching experience with connection across the country.

Davis took Woods under his wing and introduced him to the TX HS coaches Erb before he left to Brain into IL and Ohio to get him started

Reed when he got here expanded Woods recruiting connections and it is paying off very slowly as Woods is recruiting from Georgia to TX to California,

just in time to help with the 2015 class Wallace was hired 9 months ago, and he may have landed the most important recruit in this class RB Graham out of Alabama after losing Higdon,

Brian's biggest recruit is Daniel who chose IA over Alabama and home state school O$U,

so ny question is this after knowing all this, how can you realistically think they could do better the last 3 classes?

7 new coaches following a 4-8 season, that is in no way shape or form a conducive environment to land top 40 classes let alone top 20 classes.

having to teach 2 coaches how to recruit and build connections and at the same time breath new life into this program. which is what coaches like Woods and Brian are doing and young coaches like Wallace and White are doing, Reed and Davis provide the teachers for the new guys, Kennedy bring the generation gap together.,

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Chris White was born in 1967... Is that considered "young"?

Who is Coach Woods recruiting in Cali? The prospect Iowa has offered that is currently there, recently moved to Cali from Maryland/DC. Coach White was recruiting him....

As far as the 4-8 record goes... Iowa was just outrecruited by turd teams like Illinois and Indiana. How many winning seasons has Wilson had at Indiana? Who has a better fanbase support(attendance), more money,better facilities, etc.... How Iowa could possibly not best a turd like Indiana at the recruiting game is stunning... Yet, it happened...Maybe KF shouldn't have hired 2 coaches that required training wheels on the recruiting trail?

 

[Hawkeye2222]

and yet Brain just got 4* the #4 center in the nation to commit to the Hawks and turned down Home state school O$U and Alabama, not bad for a kid with no prior recruiting experience, as for who Wood was recruiting in California this is the top player that he was recruiting in the 2015 class, DT 4* 11th best Jacob Daniels committed to Washington then flipped to USC

try doing a little research before trying to act like you know about something you have no knowledge of and that's recruiting

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

and yet Brain just got 4* the #4 center in the nation to commit to the Hawks and turned down Home state school O$U and Alabama, not bad for a kid with no prior recruiting experience, as for who Wood was recruiting in California this is the top player that he was recruiting in the 2015 class, DT 4* 11th best Jacob Daniels committed to Washington then flipped to USC

try doing a little research before trying to act like you know about something you have no knowledge of and that's recruiting

LOl, about Jacob Daniel... His training coach is a former Hawk player(since you know so much, name the player).... Prove that LeVar Woods spent a day in California recruiting him...

 

[Hawkeye2222]

and this is why I just look while I keep you on ignore,

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Figured you had no clue.. Typical of you... Prolly the reason you have earned the title as our village idiot, thousands of times over...

 

[Hawkeye2222]

blah blah blah in the mirror as you are doing now because I am tired of your BS

 

[tomhawk80907]

Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

and yet Brain just got 4* the #4 center in the nation to commit to the Hawks and turned down Home state school O$U and Alabama, not bad for a kid with no prior recruiting experience,

In all honesty do you think we land this kid if his brother wasn't on the team.

 

[FG86]

Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

and yet Brain just got 4* the #4 center in the nation to commit to the Hawks and turned down Home state school O$U and Alabama, not bad for a kid with no prior recruiting experience, as for who Wood was recruiting in California this is the top player that he was recruiting in the 2015 class, DT 4* 11th best Jacob Daniels committed to Washington then flipped to USC

try doing a little research before trying to act like you know about something you have no knowledge of and that's recruiting

Brian 'got' the 4* center because his brother plays fb at UI. No prior recruiting experience? He has been recruiting the past 3 years.

And not sure why we are supposed to be impressed that Iowa was recruiting someone who went to USC.

 

[100yearscounting]

FG is a poser.

 

[Sandow]

Hey moron, he's coming here to play with his brother. His brother got him here, not Clueless Jr.

 

[dawgs_04]

We're supposed to give these guys a pass because they're new to recruiting and don't have any connections? That's a failure on the part of the idiot who hired them (Dad/former coach). This is a mature program, there is no starting over.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[onlyonenow]

kilroy never runs out of stupid excuses for KF's failures

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

class rankings

2012 the team went 4-8 with the prior coaches recruits since then these were the new hires involved in recruiting classes of 2013 ,

Davis
Woods a former GA who had no prior recruiting experience and absolutely no established contacts with any HS coaches
BF another coach that had abosolutey no HS contacts or experience before he came to IA

then these were added in to recruit the 2014 class,

White who was hired from the Vikings, didn't bother to look at his bio but I thinking that he was a coach at the college level by the way he has had success in recruiting the East Coast
Kennedy former WR/Assistant RC for TX for 7 years and this year he did get a TX top 100 WR in Smith
Reed another with prior coaching experience with connection across the country.

Davis took Woods under his wing and introduced him to the TX HS coaches Erb before he left to Brain into IL and Ohio to get him started

Reed when he got here expanded Woods recruiting connections and it is paying off very slowly as Woods is recruiting from Georgia to TX to California, 

just in time to help with the 2015 class Wallace was hired 9 months ago, and he may have landed the most important recruit in this class RB Graham out of Alabama after losing Higdon,

Brian's biggest recruit is Daniel who chose IA over Alabama and home state school O$U,

so ny question is this after knowing all this, how can you realistically think they could do better the last 3 classes?

7 new coaches following a 4-8 season,  that is in no way shape or form a conducive environment to land top 40 classes let alone top 20 classes.

having to teach 2 coaches how to recruit and build connections and at the same time breath new life into this program. which is what coaches like Woods and Brian are doing and young coaches like Wallace and White are doing, Reed and Davis provide the teachers for the new guys, Kennedy bring the generation gap together.,

Blah, blah, blah. Do you ever tire of spewing your kool aid? Holy cow, you are seriously delusional when it comes to making excuses for this program. Honestly can say I have not a fan as blind as you on any of the message boards.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[InsaneHawk]

Originally posted by dawgs_04:
We're supposed to give these guys a pass because they're new to recruiting and don't have any connections? That's a failure on the part of the idiot who hired them (Dad/former coach). This is a mature program, there is no starting over.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

This. If recruiting was any sort of priority during the hiring process, these two young gentlemen wouldn't have even been considered. Now, with that said, I think that Brian has done a pretty good job during his tenure recruiting making up for his lack of experience, but Woods has been absolutely horrible. I'm hoping that the time spent in Georgia by Woods finally pays off next year; if not, I would have to question why he is still on the staff (especially considering on-field results of the LBs this past year).

 

[MoneyintheBanks]

So did I miss the 'serious question' or what? No matter which way you spin it, these last couple recruiting classes have been unacceptable. Could you imagine if Leshun didn't go here? We very rarely beat out schools better than us when it comes to legit prospects. And this team won't change until we find someone who can. And not in Kilroy's view of maybe 1-3 per class. We need 7-10 good 3*'s with other solid D1 offers and at least a 4* as well. Then throw in 8-10 timea kids and see what happens.

 

[shoot_the_three]

Kilroy is like a car wreck, I just can't stop myself from looking. I did hear Newborg mention in an interview that after committing to Iowa he heard from Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Oregon among others but he told them he was solid with Iowa. I am hoping he end up playing defensive tackle.

 

[N.Legend]

"so ny question is this after knowing all this, how can you realistically think they could do better the last 3 classes?"
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Maybe you should check with Penn State. They went all new and look what they achieved.

 

[Hawkeye2222]

HF when he came to IA to coach hired these

RB Coach Carl Jackson straight out of HS
Barry Alverez straight out of Mason city HS
KF had no prior experience when he was hired and developed some of the best OL under HF
HF promoted BB from a GA to a AC, was HF a idiot for these hires when IA needed all the help it could get?

KF hired Morgan straight out of IC West and has done OK

again you know nothing about FB every COACH at every level HAD TO START SOMEWHERE, GA, AC up to the HC they all had to start somewhere.

even HF started out as a GA.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Your claim about Carl Jackson is untrue.

Your claim about KF is untrue.

 

[iowalaw]

Strange that teams like Wisconsin, Nebraska and Mich have had coaches in place for, at most, 2 months, and their staffs had no problem annihilating our coaches, who had been in place collecting hefty paychecks for 3 years. It's not about their "newness," I'm afraid. It's about ability to recruit. Brian and LeVar simply don't have it at the present time.

 

[Cerro Gordo Hawk]

2222, or 8, or whatever you wan to call yourself. You, are a first class idiot.