Thats just a lazy and incorrect narrativeOf course you know. He going to run the offense KF tells him to run.
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Thats just a lazy and incorrect narrativeOf course you know. He going to run the offense KF tells him to run.
Ahh yes, coach Wisconsin…. I forgot about him.Wisconsin.
Better luck next time.Ahh yes, coach Wisconsin…. I forgot about him.
I asked what coach has built a program better than KF in the Midwest and you responded with Wisconsin. Lol.Better luck next time.
Interesting because you didn't actually say anything about a coach, at all.I asked what coach has built a program better than KF in the Midwest and you responded with Wisconsin. Lol.
Maybe English isn't your first language? In English, "who" can often be used interchangeably with "what" (a team, organization, etc.) just as it can be used to refer to a person. We both know you're backpedaling, please cut your losses.I’d like to know who you think has had better results?
I think he chose the right option for what he wants, which may not be totally aligned to the best interests of Iowa football. People might have gotten too excited about Johns (though Elko did not take him to A&M). He would be have been seen as a savior by many and gotten hopes up, with lots media attention. Lester is more of a question mark and will probably not change things too much, so excitement will be muted. If he's just incrementally better year one then Kirk can point to Proctor/McNamara and say it was mostly personnel changes and lack of injuries that made the difference.Even worse…. KF could have (Johns) but chose the worse option
We waited this long and it was a binary decision? Two options across CFB + NFL? I could have waited a little longer for something better. I don’t give a shit how good of a player he was. I do agree that chemistry matters but honestly we need to shake things up. This feels very comfortable, no possible friction .No one knows really what transpired during this process but Rob Howe was the only one mentioning Lester on Friday.
In-person interviews can really sway a decision as well as references. No one knows how Lester vs. Johns' interviewed with coach Ferentz and how they interacted with the coaching staff. Kirk said early on, that chemistry with the other coaches was critical for him. Members of the staff may have liked Lester better. Lester may have been better prepared for his interview, I would have watched game tape and come in with solutions to fix Iowa's shortfalls. No one knows.
Lester was a heck of a QB in college (close to 12,000 yards passing) and had solid offensive numbers at WMU (he called most of the plays). When he was at WMU, defense let him down. Something he won't have to worry about as OC at Iowa. He replaced Fleck at WMU who pulled his best players with him to Minny, which left holes in the roster.
I for one, am willing to give him time to turn things around. Bottom line, he has to better better than Brian.
There will most certainly be naysayers on this board. But some of them wouldn't have been happy with Mike Shanahan.
I’ll put it together for you since you seem to be a little slow.Interesting because you didn't actually say anything about a coach, at all.
Maybe English isn't your first language? In English, "who" can often be used interchangeably with "what" (a team, organization, etc.) just as it can be used to refer to a person. We both know you're backpedaling, please cut your losses.
Unbiased perspective is Kirk probably runs the best non-blueblood program in the Midwest. I tend to trust his decision-making (outside of the promotion of his son). I’m not gonna say I’m excited about the hire, but I certainly feel comfortable with the choice.
That is certainly somewhat biased and open for debate.
I’d like to know who you think has had better results? No matter where your fandom lies the grass is always greener. Grass has been the greenest in Iowa City for some time compared to its peers.
Wisconsin.
Ahh yes, coach Wisconsin…. I forgot about him.
Better luck next time.
I asked what coach has built a program better than KF in the Midwest and you responded with Wisconsin. Lol.
This is the biggest positive of the hire. Really wish they paid Johns what he asked for but maybe he wanted more than Parker.Well yeah QB experience is a good deal. Heaven knows we suck at that part. Maybe he works out
Couple points on Lester:
1) Recognition of NFL receiving talent: Jayden Reed, Skyy Moore, D'wayne Eskridge.
2) Increasing receiving TDs, while keeping INTs low.
2017: 14 TD / 4 INT
2018: 16 TD / 6 INT
2019: 20 TD / 8 INT
2020: COVID
2021: 23 TD / 6 INT
Michigan? Do you mean WMU?His offense at Michigan performed better in 2021 than Iowa.
14 points at Michigan. Iowa had 3 in Indy.
WMU had 5 explosive plays at least, 4 different receivers over 20 yards, 22 yard run.
No turnovers
Didn't have Iowa's special teams or Phil Parker’s defense.
Opening game against MAC opponent vs Big10 Champ game and playoff berth (Iowa barely escaped SDSU who isn't DI FBS)His offense at Michigan performed better in 2021 than Iowa.
14 points at Michigan. Iowa had 3 in Indy.
WMU had 5 explosive plays at least, 4 different receivers over 20 yards, 22 yard run.
No turnovers
Didn't have Iowa's special teams or Phil Parker’s defense.
Semantics. Alvarez. Had KF's number, won bigger games, and played better non-con.Ahh yes, coach Wisconsin…. I forgot about him.
Listening to this bit, from his introductory press conference at Western Michigan, and I can see other things KF probably liked about him:This 2021 Tim Lester quote probably sealed the deal for Kirk. He is speaking in Kirk's favorite term...."Complementary football" I got this from Chad Leistikow
“That was one of the things we didn’t do last year; we did not play complementary. We scored so fast, we left our defense out there for 80-some plays a game," Lester said. "Right now, our defense is playing like 50 plays a game, so it’s good to play complementary football and be efficient.”
Lester’s last five teams at Western Michigan (in order) averaged 32.0, 33.1, 41.7, 32.5 and 19.0 points per game before he was fired. The last year of 2022 was said to be a rebuilding year before he was fired, but if he can duplicate the prior 4 years at Iowa, this could turn out ok. I guess we will see. Of course, the MAC is not know for great defense. LOL
I don't know that I believe this. If you're out of a job I'd think you would take what was offered."Allegedly"..........Johns wanted more money than Iowa was willing to pay him.
Thus they went to Lester, and he accepted.
this could hit an area of need for us. A couple of questions hopefully Kirk can answer yes on.Couple points on Lester:
1) Recognition of NFL receiving talent: Jayden Reed, Skyy Moore, D'wayne Eskridge.
2) Increasing receiving TDs, while keeping INTs low.
2017: 14 TD / 4 INT
2018: 16 TD / 6 INT
2019: 20 TD / 8 INT
2020: COVID
2021: 23 TD / 6 INT
Well it's already been reported that Cade will be iffy to start for Iowa's first game.One thing that will tell us instantly if he’s a good hire will be the spring training. If Coach Lestor trots out QB Hill as the #1 QB we will all know right then and there imo!
"Allegedly"..........Johns wanted more money than Iowa was willing to pay him.
Thus they went to Lester, and he accepted.
Yeah, Alvarez was better, but he is no longer coaching. If you want to look historically there are quite a few coaches better than KF, like Bill Snyder. I’m not even saying KF is great by any means, I’m just saying he’s above his peers in the current landscape. That counts for something.Semantics. Alvarez. Had KF's number, won bigger games, and played better non-con.
Yay! Low expectations!Take that one out, then. If we finish somewhere between 76 and 83 next year, we should be thrilled.
Any word on how much Lester is making"Allegedly"..........Johns wanted more money than Iowa was willing to pay him.
Thus they went to Lester, and he accepted.
Is anyone really SURE it was a $$$ question from Johns and not a CONTROL issue trying to wrestle the offense reigns from Kirk's kung-fu grip? Not sure what the guy was making at Duke but apparently the budget was around 1.25 - 1.5 so can't see him asking for a bunch more than that..so many variables.This is the biggest positive of the hire. Really wish they paid Johns what he asked for but maybe he wanted more than Parker.
Hopefully he can do better to develop QBs more than KFs track record. Don’t point to anything on his resume as being deserving of this opportunity but if he be a competent qb coach he could make an impact on this bottom barrel offense.
Good on the points.This 2021 Tim Lester quote probably sealed the deal for Kirk. He is speaking in Kirk's favorite term...."Complementary football" I got this from Chad Leistikow
“That was one of the things we didn’t do last year; we did not play complementary. We scored so fast, we left our defense out there for 80-some plays a game," Lester said. "Right now, our defense is playing like 50 plays a game, so it’s good to play complementary football and be efficient.”
Lester’s last five teams at Western Michigan (in order) averaged 32.0, 33.1, 41.7, 32.5 and 19.0 points per game before he was fired. The last year of 2022 was said to be a rebuilding year before he was fired, but if he can duplicate the prior 4 years at Iowa, this could turn out ok. I guess we will see. Of course, the MAC is not know for great defense. LOL
Was discussed on the radio this morning. Said should have seen this coming. John’s is more air raid type offense. Kirk is gonna pro style on out to the end.Is anyone really SURE it was a $$$ question from Johns and not a CONTROL issue trying to wrestle the offense reigns from Kirk's kung-fu grip? Not sure what the guy was making at Duke but apparently the budget was around 1.25 - 1.5 so can't see him asking for a bunch more than that..so many variables.
This article talks about Lester taking over the play-calling duties in 2018, after Kevin Johns left: LinkI’m sorry but the only ones reporting that Lester was calling plays at WMU is the Iowa media.
From the Western Herald when WMU’s OC left for the NFL...
“Moreland has been at WMU since 2017, when he was hired as the offensive line coach and co-offensive coordinator before taking over the offense on his own in 2018. In 2020 he shifted his positional focus from offensive line to tight ends. Moreland earlier served as WMU’s tight ends coach from 2005-’11.
During his time as offensive coordinator, the Broncos had LeVante Bellamy win MAC Offensive Player of the Year in 2019 and have produced 11 first-team All-MAC players on the offensive side of the football. In his three years in charge of the offensive line, WMU had four first-team All-MAC offensive lineman and eight total All-MAC honorees.”
The article made no mention that Lester was the actual play caller at all, just talked about who Moreland’s replacements would be.
So this false narrative that the Iowa media is pushing appears to be nothing more than damage control.
Seriously just push your CONTROL narrative, it's what you want to believe and it makes you feel better.Is anyone really SURE it was a $$$ question from Johns and not a CONTROL issue trying to wrestle the offense reigns from Kirk's kung-fu grip? Not sure what the guy was making at Duke but apparently the budget was around 1.25 - 1.5 so can't see him asking for a bunch more than that..so many variables.
I think it's simply a matter of Kirk feeling like Lester was a better fit. And anyone is free to criticize that mentality, as I believe Johns had a better resume.Is anyone really SURE it was a $$$ question from Johns and not a CONTROL issue trying to wrestle the offense reigns from Kirk's kung-fu grip? Not sure what the guy was making at Duke but apparently the budget was around 1.25 - 1.5 so can't see him asking for a bunch more than that..so many variables.
Your whiny negative nellie routine is whats worthless.lol, op would defend Kirk if he saw him shoot someone on 5th avenue. Your pie in the sky opinion is worthless. And yes, I’m aware I took time to post in your thread.
seems like Allegedly was the correct word for this...LMFAO"Allegedly"..........Johns wanted more money than Iowa was willing to pay him.
Thus they went to Lester, and he accepted.
So we can listen to another guy that knows nothing guess what happened leading up to Lester's hire.seems like Allegedly was the correct word for this...LMFAO
This is the "source" of money situation, so I couldn't care less if you listen to it or not.So we can listen to another guy that knows nothing guess what happened leading up to Lester's hire.
Why would you?This is the "source" of money situation, so I couldn't care less if you listen to it or not.
Bro, I honestly am not following. You make the statement of "so we can listen to another guy that knows nothing." No, the tweet is indicating that statement was misinformation, which has been discussed at length in this thread.Why would you?
Sorry, I'm a little confused. What statement was misinformation?that statement was misinformation