1/6 traitors argue that their pardons should cover murder plays, kiddie porn
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90% of MAGA is with them. And every conservative on HBOT will all tell us that while unfortunate, their argument makes sense and it’s ultimately liberals fault.
Because they have lost all decency.
Because they have lost all decency.
Shit they are head of agencies or Cabinet level quality. I hear Nuclear waste department is hiring...
Patiently waiting for @libbity bibbity , @Sullivan , et al to say they should be free.
Can’t let this fall to page 2. I’d really like to hear a MAGAs take.
There is a reason the architects of disinformation got the MAGAs for last 12 years obsessed about pizzagate and the made up global child sex rings run by democrats as one of the core myths of QANON and that reason is mass projection of their own kompromized people.
Why would a 1/6 pardon apply to another crime? If they committed a crime apart from what they did on 1/6, it should be prosecuted. I'm fairly certain the intent of the pardons wasn't a Biden style "you're absolved of all crimes past and future."
The ONLY argument I could see is if they uncovered the crime ONLY because they stumbled upon it post 1/6 while investigating 1/6 actions. Then they may have a legal argument of some sort, but let's be honest, if they had child porn or were plotting to murder someone, that's on a different plain than 'followed a bunch of people who were already entering the capital, strolled around, and left.'
The ONLY argument I could see is if they uncovered the crime ONLY because they stumbled upon it post 1/6 while investigating 1/6 actions. Then they may have a legal argument of some sort, but let's be honest, if they had child porn or were plotting to murder someone, that's on a different plain than 'followed a bunch of people who were already entering the capital, strolled around, and left.'
Ah, the old they were just tourists argument.
For the record I am pretty sure even the blanket pardons which I don't think should be legal don't cover the future.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
The only pardons that ever should have been contemplated were for folks who peacefully followed people into the Capitol, strolled around and left. Anyone who committed violence that day (or aided and abetted the same) should have been left to rot in jail or strung up so their families could see them die kicking and choking on the end of a rope for their treachery.
The silver lining, if there is one to Trump’s treachery, is many will end up right back in prison. You can take the shitheads out of prison, but you can’t take the shit out of their heads. If you were violent once you will likely attempt violence again. I feel bad for those they will hurt in the process, that will be Trump’s fault, but karma has a way of working out in the end.
Yeah thats probably correct. The pardons certainly covered future charges, if not future crimes.
If there's a future crime by any of them, I would guess a lawyer will argue it's covered.
Most of the people who followed others into the capitol, strolled around and left got slaps on the wrist too.
And plus what they did is still problematic because they aught to have been able tell that initial entry was not gained peacefully.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
I agree with all of that. I was not advocating blanket pardons to everyone who trespassed that day peacefully…just saying that is the only group that should have been evaluated for pardons.
Aren’t you the guy who boasted on this board about his girlfriend sucking him off on his birthday? Cough, cough ……glass house …….cough, cough
It might be time or passed time to get rid of the presidential pardon. I don't like the blanket pardon for J6ers, and those pardons should certainly be restricted to the events of that day (if at all)... any other crimes those individuals may have committed should be handled as usual.
And any of them caught with child porn deserve to hang and fry.
And any of them caught with child porn deserve to hang and fry.
Then why did the FBI send swat teams after them and break their doors down for simple misdemeanors?
Pay wall, no access to full article. But it sounds like the defendants’ attorneys have submitted legal arguments for the benefit of their clients that are similar (no, dumbasses, not “identical”) to the “fruit of the poisonous tree” theory in the admissibility of evidence. Probably won’t be successful, but if they didn’t make the argument, they’d get sued for legal malpractice. Attorneys doing what attorneys are supposed to do. Oh the horror!!!!
I'll bet you played the old it's mainly peaceful protests argument as buildings and businesses were vandalized, looted and burned during the summer of love protests that cause $2 billion in damages, huh?
Now go ahead with the stay on topic or whataboutisms excuse that are often used by the lefties on the board in 3, 2, 1, .....
Agreed. There was no reason to pardon those involved in violence.
If there were some unfair prosecutions or sentences then they could have been dealt with, but a blanket pardon including those who engaged in violent behavior is garbage.
You know, the kids who forced weaker kids into lockers in High School? Yup, those a-holes LOVE Trump.
That’s what’s so funny. Evidently the “tourists” couldn’t read signs that said “access restricted”, not being allowed to go past a certain point, “authorized personnel only”. Etc.
Also, the “tourists” apparently don’t understand that it’s illegal to attack LEO.
I’m sorry the jocks locked you in a locker in high school. I hope you were never given a swirly.
