117 Idiots Voted for Default

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Have to get rid of the debt limit...way too many idiots in congress.


The 71 Republican Idiots

• Rep. Mark Alford of Missouri
• Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona
• Rep. Dan Bishop of North Carolina
• Rep. Mike Bost of Illinois
• Rep. Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma
• Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida
• Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado
• Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee
• Rep. Eric Burlison of Missouri
• Rep. Kat Cammack of Florida
• Rep. Buddy Carter of Texas
• Rep. Ben Cline of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Cloud of Texas
• Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia
• Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia
• Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona
• Rep. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee
• Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida
• Rep. Pat Fallon of Texas
• Rep. Brad Finstad of Minnesota
• Rep. Michelle Fischbach of Minnesota
• Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina
• Rep. Mark Fulcher of Idaho
• Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida
• Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas
• Rep. Bob Good of Virginia
• Rep. Lance Gooden of Texas
• Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona
• Rep. Morgan Griffith of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Guest of Mississippi
• Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming
• Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland
• Rep. Diana Harshbarger of Tennessee
• Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma
• Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana
• Rep. Wesley Hunt of Texas
• Rep. Ronny Jackson of Texas
• Rep. Darin LaHood of Illinois
• Rep. Debbie Lesko or Arizona
• Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida
• Rep. Morgan Luttrell of Texas
• Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina
• Rep. Tracey Mann of Kansas
• Rep. Brian Mast of Florida
• Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia
• Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois
• Rep. Cory Mills of Florida
• Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia
• Rep. Barry Moore of Alabama
• Rep. Nathaniel Moran of Texas
• Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina
• Rep. Andy Ogles of Tennessee
• Rep. Gary Palmer of Alabama
• Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Bill Posey of Florida
• Rep. John Rose of Tennessee
• Rep. Matt Rosendale of Montana
• Rep. Chip Roy of Texas
• Rep. George Santos of New York
• Rep. Keith Self of Texas
• Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas
• Rep. Vicotira Spartz of Indiana
• Rep. Greg Steube of Florida
• Rep. Dale Strong of Alabama
• Rep. Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
• Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina
• Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
• Rep. Beth Van Duyne of Texas
• Rep. Mike Waltz of Florida
• Rep. Randy Weber of Texas
• Rep. Ryan Zinke of Montana

The 46 Democrat Idiots

• Rep. Nanette Barragan of California
• Rep. Suzanne Bonamici of Oregon
• Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
• Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
• Rep. Greg Casar of Texas
• Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas
• Rep. Judy Chu of California
• Rep. Yvette Clarke of New York
• Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia
• Rep. Jasmie Crockett of Texas
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
• Rep. Mark DeSaulnier of California
• Rep. Adriano Espaillat of New York
• Rep. Jesus Garcia of Illinois
• Rep. Sylvia Garcia of Texas
• Rep. Daniel Goldman of New York
• Rep. Jimmy Gomez of California
• Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona
• Rep. Jahana Hayes of Connecticut
• Rep. Val Hoyle of Oregon
• Rep. Jared Huffman of California
• Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington
• Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove of California
• Rep. Ro Khanna of California
• Rep. John Larson of Connecticut
• Rep. Barbara Lee of California
• Rep. Summer Lee of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
• Rep. Grace Meng of New York
• Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin
• Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York
• Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin
• Rep. Katie Porter of California
• Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
• Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois
• Rep. Bobby Scott of Virginia
• Rep. Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico
• Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan
• Rep. Norma Torres of California
• Rep. Ritchie Torres of New York
• Rep. Nora Vargas of California
• Rep. Nydia Velazquez of New York
• Rep. Nikema Williams of Georgia
• Rep. Frederica Wilson of Florida

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Have to get rid of the debt limit...way too many idiots in congress.


The 71 Republican Idiots

• Rep. Mark Alford of Missouri
• Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona
• Rep. Dan Bishop of North Carolina
• Rep. Mike Bost of Illinois
• Rep. Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma
• Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida
• Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado
• Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee
• Rep. Eric Burlison of Missouri
• Rep. Kat Cammack of Florida
• Rep. Buddy Carter of Texas
• Rep. Ben Cline of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Cloud of Texas
• Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia
• Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia
• Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona
• Rep. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee
• Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida
• Rep. Pat Fallon of Texas
• Rep. Brad Finstad of Minnesota
• Rep. Michelle Fischbach of Minnesota
• Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina
• Rep. Mark Fulcher of Idaho
• Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida
• Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas
• Rep. Bob Good of Virginia
• Rep. Lance Gooden of Texas
• Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona
• Rep. Morgan Griffith of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Guest of Mississippi
• Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming
• Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland
• Rep. Diana Harshbarger of Tennessee
• Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma
• Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana
• Rep. Wesley Hunt of Texas
• Rep. Ronny Jackson of Texas
• Rep. Darin LaHood of Illinois
• Rep. Debbie Lesko or Arizona
• Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida
• Rep. Morgan Luttrell of Texas
• Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina
• Rep. Tracey Mann of Kansas
• Rep. Brian Mast of Florida
• Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia
• Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois
• Rep. Cory Mills of Florida
• Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia
• Rep. Barry Moore of Alabama
• Rep. Nathaniel Moran of Texas
• Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina
• Rep. Andy Ogles of Tennessee
• Rep. Gary Palmer of Alabama
• Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Bill Posey of Florida
• Rep. John Rose of Tennessee
• Rep. Matt Rosendale of Montana
• Rep. Chip Roy of Texas
• Rep. George Santos of New York
• Rep. Keith Self of Texas
• Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas
• Rep. Vicotira Spartz of Indiana
• Rep. Greg Steube of Florida
• Rep. Dale Strong of Alabama
• Rep. Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
• Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina
• Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
• Rep. Beth Van Duyne of Texas
• Rep. Mike Waltz of Florida
• Rep. Randy Weber of Texas
• Rep. Ryan Zinke of Montana

The 46 Democrat Idiots

• Rep. Nanette Barragan of California
• Rep. Suzanne Bonamici of Oregon
• Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
• Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
• Rep. Greg Casar of Texas
• Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas
• Rep. Judy Chu of California
• Rep. Yvette Clarke of New York
• Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia
• Rep. Jasmie Crockett of Texas
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
• Rep. Mark DeSaulnier of California
• Rep. Adriano Espaillat of New York
• Rep. Jesus Garcia of Illinois
• Rep. Sylvia Garcia of Texas
• Rep. Daniel Goldman of New York
• Rep. Jimmy Gomez of California
• Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona
• Rep. Jahana Hayes of Connecticut
• Rep. Val Hoyle of Oregon
• Rep. Jared Huffman of California
• Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington
• Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove of California
• Rep. Ro Khanna of California
• Rep. John Larson of Connecticut
• Rep. Barbara Lee of California
• Rep. Summer Lee of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
• Rep. Grace Meng of New York
• Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin
• Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York
• Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin
• Rep. Katie Porter of California
• Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
• Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois
• Rep. Bobby Scott of Virginia
• Rep. Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico
• Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan
• Rep. Norma Torres of California
• Rep. Ritchie Torres of New York
• Rep. Nora Vargas of California
• Rep. Nydia Velazquez of New York
• Rep. Nikema Williams of Georgia
• Rep. Frederica Wilson of Florida

LOL...one of these things is not like the others - no matter how many times you try to make it so.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

LOL...one of these things is not like the others - no matter how many times you try to make it so.

Not really...a vote against was a vote for default. No matter how you want to spin it...

Keep providing cover though...

 

[thewop]

It's not a vote for default. There are 2 reasons people would vote no:

1. They thought their side should have pressed for a better deal (probably couldn't have realistically gotten one).

2. Appearance. They want to show constituents "they tried to do better," but also know their vote won't decide whether it passes or not, so they get the best of both worlds (deal done, with deniability).

Good news is both sides hate it, so they must have gotten it right.

 

[mthawkeyes]

Voting against it because you didn't get everything you wanted for the hostage is not the same as voting against it because you fear it emboldens hostage-takers is not the same thing. Saying the two things are the same provides cover for the hostage-takers. They were some Democrats who openly stated that they voted based upon that principle, but would have changed their vote had it been needed in the end. Raising the debt ceiling has never been an issue of brinkmanship with a Democratic Congress. Both sides are not the same.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Most of those "idiots" knew the bill was going to pass in the House and voted Nay so they could tell their constituents later that they were fighting for ... something.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Not really...a vote against was a vote for default. No matter how you want to spin it...

Keep providing cover though...

A Dem vote against was a vote against holding the debt ceiling - and the world economy hostage. Knowing it would pass.

A GOP vote against was a vote that they didn't extort ENOUGH by holding the debt ceiling - and the world economy - hostage. Knowing it would pass.

Not the same at all.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Good news is both sides hate it, so they must have gotten it right.

It's almost refreshing to see a bill that wasn't completely voted along party lines.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

A Dem vote against was a vote against holding the debt ceiling - and the world economy hostage. Knowing it would pass.

A GOP vote against was a vote that they didn't extort ENOUGH by holding the debt ceiling - and the world economy - hostage. Knowing it would pass.

Not the same at all.

Exactly the same but by all means spin away.

This late in the game on a deal the President signed off on....it's a default vote.

 

[Hawki97]

Have to get rid of the debt limit...way too many idiots in congress.


The 71 Republican Idiots

• Rep. Mark Alford of Missouri
• Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona
• Rep. Dan Bishop of North Carolina
• Rep. Mike Bost of Illinois
• Rep. Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma
• Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida
• Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado
• Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee
• Rep. Eric Burlison of Missouri
• Rep. Kat Cammack of Florida
• Rep. Buddy Carter of Texas
• Rep. Ben Cline of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Cloud of Texas
• Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia
• Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia
• Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona
• Rep. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee
• Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida
• Rep. Pat Fallon of Texas
• Rep. Brad Finstad of Minnesota
• Rep. Michelle Fischbach of Minnesota
• Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina
• Rep. Mark Fulcher of Idaho
• Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida
• Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas
• Rep. Bob Good of Virginia
• Rep. Lance Gooden of Texas
• Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona
• Rep. Morgan Griffith of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Guest of Mississippi
• Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming
• Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland
• Rep. Diana Harshbarger of Tennessee
• Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma
• Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana
• Rep. Wesley Hunt of Texas
• Rep. Ronny Jackson of Texas
• Rep. Darin LaHood of Illinois
• Rep. Debbie Lesko or Arizona
• Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida
• Rep. Morgan Luttrell of Texas
• Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina
• Rep. Tracey Mann of Kansas
• Rep. Brian Mast of Florida
• Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia
• Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois
• Rep. Cory Mills of Florida
• Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia
• Rep. Barry Moore of Alabama
• Rep. Nathaniel Moran of Texas
• Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina
• Rep. Andy Ogles of Tennessee
• Rep. Gary Palmer of Alabama
• Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Bill Posey of Florida
• Rep. John Rose of Tennessee
• Rep. Matt Rosendale of Montana
• Rep. Chip Roy of Texas
• Rep. George Santos of New York
• Rep. Keith Self of Texas
• Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas
• Rep. Vicotira Spartz of Indiana
• Rep. Greg Steube of Florida
• Rep. Dale Strong of Alabama
• Rep. Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
• Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina
• Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
• Rep. Beth Van Duyne of Texas
• Rep. Mike Waltz of Florida
• Rep. Randy Weber of Texas
• Rep. Ryan Zinke of Montana

The 46 Democrat Idiots

• Rep. Nanette Barragan of California
• Rep. Suzanne Bonamici of Oregon
• Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
• Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
• Rep. Greg Casar of Texas
• Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas
• Rep. Judy Chu of California
• Rep. Yvette Clarke of New York
• Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia
• Rep. Jasmie Crockett of Texas
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
• Rep. Mark DeSaulnier of California
• Rep. Adriano Espaillat of New York
• Rep. Jesus Garcia of Illinois
• Rep. Sylvia Garcia of Texas
• Rep. Daniel Goldman of New York
• Rep. Jimmy Gomez of California
• Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona
• Rep. Jahana Hayes of Connecticut
• Rep. Val Hoyle of Oregon
• Rep. Jared Huffman of California
• Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington
• Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove of California
• Rep. Ro Khanna of California
• Rep. John Larson of Connecticut
• Rep. Barbara Lee of California
• Rep. Summer Lee of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
• Rep. Grace Meng of New York
• Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin
• Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York
• Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin
• Rep. Katie Porter of California
• Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
• Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois
• Rep. Bobby Scott of Virginia
• Rep. Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico
• Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan
• Rep. Norma Torres of California
• Rep. Ritchie Torres of New York
• Rep. Nora Vargas of California
• Rep. Nydia Velazquez of New York
• Rep. Nikema Williams of Georgia
• Rep. Frederica Wilson of Florida

Sooooo….you’re telling me politicians are grandstanding pieces of shit? For anyone paying attention it shouldn’t have taken this vote to know that. The question really is which ones are more dangerous? I know my answer.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Sooooo….you’re telling me politicians are grandstanding pieces of shit? For anyone paying attention it shouldn’t have taken this vote to know that. The question really is which ones are more dangerous? I know my answer.

Fair enough.

Call it grandstanding idiocy if you want...still idiocy.

 

[Hawki97]

Fair enough.

Call it grandstanding idiocy if you want...still idiocy.

I actually called it grandstanding pieces of shit. I like that better. And yes, it’s still shit. One just stinks worse.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Most of those "idiots" knew the bill was going to pass in the House and voted Nay so they could tell their constituents later that they were fighting for ... something.

Which is terrifying...

The vote won't be held against them and it should.

If the "idiot" litmus test isn't palatable to some...the vote was definitely a "adult v child" referendum.

The adults in congress voted yes...the children no....

I'd think folks would appreciate adults running the operation but unfortunately that obviously isn't the case.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Ron railing against the deal....I've been off the Ron train since the 6 week abortion ban but his position on this just confirms it.

He's totally jumped the shark the last 6 months....trying to get to the right of Trump.

Even if he beats Trump in the primary's....good luck in the general Ron.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Fair enough.

Call it grandstanding idiocy if you want...still idiocy.

I actually called it grandstanding pieces of shit. I like that better. And yes, it’s still shit. One just stinks worse.

So if you're opposed to holding the economy of the world hostage but you know there's a deal on the table rewarding those who do just that, you MUST support it even though you know it passes regardless of how you vote?

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Which is terrifying...

The vote won't be held against them and it should.

If the "idiot" litmus test isn't palatable to some...the vote was definitely a "adult v child" referendum.

The adults in congress voted yes...the children no....

I'd think folks would appreciate adults running the operation but unfortunately that obviously isn't the case.

This is an excellent example of the dysfunction that is American politics and governance.

So, we're 5 days away from default with likely disasterous consequences. And you are presented with a vote to avoid it. Simple, right?

But, the bill contains one or several things you are dead set against. Maybe something you campaigned against - maybe something you have publicly opposed for your entire career.

So, the gun is pointed at your head. What do you do? Both answers have negative consequences.

I'm not going to point to any one congressman or any one provision, because I don't have those facts. And, I and clearly not going to defend anyone.

I just don't think it's as simple as adults and children IMO.

 

[DooBi]

So if you're opposed to holding the economy of the world hostage but you know there's a deal on the table rewarding those who do just that, you MUST support it even though you know it passes regardless of how you vote?

In the other thread Joe's place says the Rs got absolutely nothing they wanted. You are saying the Rs are rewarded. Which is it?

Is it possible you all are just a bunch of political hacks that only care about the letter after the name?

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Most of those "idiots" knew the bill was going to pass in the House and voted Nay so they could tell their constituents later that they were fighting for ... something.

That something would be bankruptcy for many of their constituents. Something to be proud of.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

In the other thread Joe's place says the Rs got absolutely nothing they wanted. You are saying the Rs are rewarded. Which is it?

Is it possible you all are just a bunch of political hacks that only care about the letter after the name?

They were rewarded by getting to deal. Paying our debts shouldn't even be on the table.

 

[DooBi]

Raising the debt ceiling has never been an issue of brinkmanship with a Democratic Congress.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Truer words have never been spoken.

Slamming into the debt ceiling has never been an issue for a GOP Congress...unless there's a Dem in the WH. There are your "truer words".

 

[onlyTheObvious]

The bigger idiots are all those that allowed the 31 trillion national debt.

 

[BioHawk]

If your "No" vote was a protest against even having to go through the charade of a debt ceiling vote in the first place, you should have voted "Present" and then explained that you think the 14th amendment makes this a pointless bill that is unnecessary and it is a waste of time.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

So if you're opposed to holding the economy of the world hostage but you know there's a deal on the table rewarding those who do just that, you MUST support it even though you know it passes regardless of how you vote?

They voted for the default and voted against the deal Biden cut...

It is what it is...

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

This is an excellent example of the dysfunction that is American politics and governance.

So, we're 5 days away from default with likely disasterous consequences. And you are presented with a vote to avoid it. Simple, right?

But, the bill contains one or several things you are dead set against. Maybe something you campaigned against - maybe something you have publicly opposed for your entire career.

So, the gun is pointed at your head. What do you do? Both answers have negative consequences.

I'm not going to point to any one congressman or any one provision, because I don't have those facts. And, I and clearly not going to defend anyone.

I just don't think it's as simple as adults and children IMO.

The priority was raising the debt ceiling and avoiding default. With 5 days left we were past time for messing around with it.

At the very least it shows that their priorities and judgement are lacking.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

They voted for the default and voted against the deal Biden cut...

It is what it is...

I'll go with that. No problem.

So those voting third party in a presidential election are voting for the person they think is the worst choice between the two major parties.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I'll go with that. No problem.

So those voting third party in a presidential election are voting for the person they think is the worst choice between the two major parties.

Not sure what that does to do with a vote for raising the debt ceiling but I'm listening

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Not sure what that does to do with a vote for raising the debt ceiling but I'm listening

Why would you vote third party?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Why would you vote third party?

I think you have me mixed up with someone else...during that discussion I agreed with you even though I don't like it. Two party system...

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I think you have me mixed up with someone else...during that discussion I agreed with you even though I don't like it. Two party system...

I'm not saying you would...I'm asking why.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I'm not saying you would...I'm asking why.

Because the two candidates the D's and R's totally suck?

Voting third party isn't equivalent to voting no on a debt ceiling increase to avoid default by members of congress IMO.

 

[Pete Malloy]

Have to get rid of the debt limit...way too many idiots in congress.


The 71 Republican Idiots

• Rep. Mark Alford of Missouri
• Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona
• Rep. Dan Bishop of North Carolina
• Rep. Mike Bost of Illinois
• Rep. Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma
• Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida
• Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado
• Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee
• Rep. Eric Burlison of Missouri
• Rep. Kat Cammack of Florida
• Rep. Buddy Carter of Texas
• Rep. Ben Cline of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Cloud of Texas
• Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia
• Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia
• Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona
• Rep. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee
• Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida
• Rep. Pat Fallon of Texas
• Rep. Brad Finstad of Minnesota
• Rep. Michelle Fischbach of Minnesota
• Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina
• Rep. Mark Fulcher of Idaho
• Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida
• Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas
• Rep. Bob Good of Virginia
• Rep. Lance Gooden of Texas
• Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona
• Rep. Morgan Griffith of Virginia
• Rep. Michael Guest of Mississippi
• Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming
• Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland
• Rep. Diana Harshbarger of Tennessee
• Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma
• Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana
• Rep. Wesley Hunt of Texas
• Rep. Ronny Jackson of Texas
• Rep. Darin LaHood of Illinois
• Rep. Debbie Lesko or Arizona
• Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida
• Rep. Morgan Luttrell of Texas
• Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina
• Rep. Tracey Mann of Kansas
• Rep. Brian Mast of Florida
• Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia
• Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois
• Rep. Cory Mills of Florida
• Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia
• Rep. Barry Moore of Alabama
• Rep. Nathaniel Moran of Texas
• Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina
• Rep. Andy Ogles of Tennessee
• Rep. Gary Palmer of Alabama
• Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Bill Posey of Florida
• Rep. John Rose of Tennessee
• Rep. Matt Rosendale of Montana
• Rep. Chip Roy of Texas
• Rep. George Santos of New York
• Rep. Keith Self of Texas
• Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas
• Rep. Vicotira Spartz of Indiana
• Rep. Greg Steube of Florida
• Rep. Dale Strong of Alabama
• Rep. Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
• Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina
• Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
• Rep. Beth Van Duyne of Texas
• Rep. Mike Waltz of Florida
• Rep. Randy Weber of Texas
• Rep. Ryan Zinke of Montana

The 46 Democrat Idiots

• Rep. Nanette Barragan of California
• Rep. Suzanne Bonamici of Oregon
• Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
• Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
• Rep. Greg Casar of Texas
• Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas
• Rep. Judy Chu of California
• Rep. Yvette Clarke of New York
• Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia
• Rep. Jasmie Crockett of Texas
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
• Rep. Mark DeSaulnier of California
• Rep. Adriano Espaillat of New York
• Rep. Jesus Garcia of Illinois
• Rep. Sylvia Garcia of Texas
• Rep. Daniel Goldman of New York
• Rep. Jimmy Gomez of California
• Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona
• Rep. Jahana Hayes of Connecticut
• Rep. Val Hoyle of Oregon
• Rep. Jared Huffman of California
• Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington
• Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove of California
• Rep. Ro Khanna of California
• Rep. John Larson of Connecticut
• Rep. Barbara Lee of California
• Rep. Summer Lee of Pennsylvania
• Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
• Rep. Grace Meng of New York
• Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin
• Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York
• Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin
• Rep. Katie Porter of California
• Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
• Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois
• Rep. Bobby Scott of Virginia
• Rep. Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico
• Rep. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan
• Rep. Norma Torres of California
• Rep. Ritchie Torres of New York
• Rep. Nora Vargas of California
• Rep. Nydia Velazquez of New York
• Rep. Nikema Williams of Georgia
• Rep. Frederica Wilson of Florida

We cannot continue this runaway spending. We are spending our way to an economic disaster of proportions never seen before.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

We cannot continue this runaway spending. We are spending our way to an economic disaster of proportions never seen before.

Well, that fight needs to be made with the next budget.

 

[Pete Malloy]

Well, that fight needs to be made with the next budget.

Unfortunately they have been kicking the can down the road for 30 years.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Unfortunately they have been kicking the can down the road for 30 years.

true

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Because the two candidates the D's and R's totally suck?

Voting third party isn't equivalent to voting no on a debt ceiling increase to avoid default by members of congress IMO.

Yes it is.

Well, voting third party in a swing state is far worse, so I'll give you that it isn't the same there.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Yes it is.

Well, voting third party in a swing state is far worse, so I'll give you that it isn't the same there.

Hmmm...so the vote of a citizen in a election is equivalent to a vote by an elected member of congress in the House of Representatives to raise the debt ceiling?

I disagree....

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Hmmm...so the vote of a citizen in a election is equivalent to a vote by an elected member of congress in the House of Representatives to raise the debt ceiling?

I disagree....

A vote is a vote. And a meaningless vote to express one's displeasure with the choices presented is a meaningless vote to express one's displeasure with the choices presented.

So...in a state where the outcome is foreordained...a third-party vote is a meaningless vote to express one's displeasure with the choices presented. In Congress, where the outcome is foreordained, a no vote on the debt ceiling pkg is a meaningless vote to express one's displeasure with the choices presented.

In a battleground state, a third-party vote could sway the election to the person the voter thinks is least qualified. So...worse...the vote of an actual idiot. There is no link to this vote in the House because there was no question as to how the vote on the debt ceiling pkg was going to go. The outcome - again - was foreordained.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

We cannot continue this runaway spending. We are spending our way to an economic disaster of proportions never seen before.

I agree - but no one in DC seems to care about it very much. I think the reason is that Washington can only seem to focus on about 3 days at a time. Climate Change and the Federal Debt is not going to be a problem in the next 3 days, so they ignore it.

Our Leaders in Washington.

 

[joelbc1]

The positive here is that Biden and the Party leadership (both parties) were able to hold together the middle of their caucuses. They were able to reign in their “fringes” yet allowed them to express themselves and the business (routine) of Congress was not derailed.