2 hostages vs dozens of citizens....
- Thread starter Jimmy McGill
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One side…advocating for the protection of innocent people regardless of who they are.
HOLY SHITE! You are actually playing the equivalency card (or should I say false equivalency). Wow.
For ****s sake, you’re a giant twat but at least I had a little respect over the years squabbling with you. Can’t say that anymore….
I’m aware that innocents will be killed in war.
It’s inescapable.
War ain’t picnic.
No small part of why I oppose my country recklessly waging them.
The only thing worse than waging a war, is waging one half ass (see: Vietnam)
I perceive a distinction in deliberately raping and beheading concert goers vs seeking to root out Hamas militants who hold Gazans and Israelis hostage.
Some of you guys remind me of the General on an episode of M.A.S.H. that believed it was worth losing 50 0f his soldiers to bring one dead body back....
Guess what, you now have 50 more dead bodies to bring back.
Guess what, you now have 50 more dead bodies to bring back.
Does it really matter in the long run, though?
Hamas isn’t going anywhere and will rearm eventually.
As someone who has visited the Holy Land and has a good friend who is former IDF and moved back to Israel last year to join his son who is active IDF…
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If you keep sympathizing with Hamas, I agree they won’t go anywhere.
Israel prefers wiping them off the face of the Earth and not allowing that strip of land to be used as a proxy base for anti-Semitic warfare to be waged by cowards in tunnels.
Hebrew, but you obviously do not care about the difference. It’s all Jew words to you isn’t it.
I dunno, it’s been going on for maybe a millennia or two. Has something changed recently?
So you think only one side has innocent people and those on the other side can be killed with impunity. I get it. If thinking innocent people are innocent people makes me guilty of "equivalency"...I have no problem with that. And losing your "respect" because you believe differently won't cost me a second of sleep.HOLY SHITE! You are actually playing the equivalency card (or should I say false equivalency). Wow.
For ****s sake, you’re a giant twat but at least I had a little respect over the years squabbling with you. Can’t say that anymore….
No, I’m all for fighting war with the goal of as few innocent civilian casualties as possible.
Hamas however uses human shields in highly populated areas. Hamas is the sole reason for unnecessary Palestinian civilian deaths.
- Hamas started it
- Hamas fights like cowards in tunnels
- Hamas forces women and children to remain in their strategic operations areas
- Hamas steals international aid meant for women & children and gives it to their soldiers
- The international Arab community cares the least about Palestinians. If you want to bitch about civilian casualties, go talk to them FIRST
Meanwhile:
- The IDF gives warning and telegraphs where they are about to punch
- IDF has provided aid to Palestinian women & children they encounter in Gaza
- The IDF has outlined a simple and easy path to ceasefire and Hamas refuses
If you really care about saving innocent Palestinian lives then you will 100% get on board with the following and preach it to everyone you know:
1. Hamas must release all hostages immediately
2. Hamas provides their total, unconditional surrender
That is what will save lives, not your liberal bullshit.
Not with the Palestinians it hasn't. That was our people buddy. What's changed recently is we felt so guilty about our antisemitism that we allowed victims of the Holocaust to victimize Palestinians. Err, more than allowed.
Maybe take a history lesson?
- Israel & Judea exist as nations dating back millenia
- Jewish diaspora
- Israel became a nation - May 14, 1948
- Arab world declared war on Israel, late May 14, 1948
- Various wars of aggression fought by Jordanian, Palestinian, and other Arab forces (most notably 1967). Against all odds, Israel survives this aggression.
- October 7, 2023 - Palestinian victimhood attacks Israeli women and children raping and burning them alive
So take that Palestinian victimhood and shove it????
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Also did Israel become a nation in 1948 or did it exist as a nation dating back millennia and remain a nation through 1948?
Mhmm. But Palestinians were living there. Until they were violently robbed because gentiles failed to get along with Jews. Got it.
Nation.
Had kings, capital, armies, walled cities.
Then there was the Babylonian captivity.
Then a return to their homeland. Jerusalem restored. 2nd temple, etc.
Then Roman occupation and ultimately the destruction of Jerusalem.
Long chronology of conquest and violence all around the world, I get it. Then eventually there's this ethnic group who has lived there a lot more recently than 600 BC and has for all intents and purposes known no other homeland. And because primarily Christians in Europe and the Americas were too racist or ignorant or religiously fervent to tolerate Jews, it becomes necessary for them to have their own state. So far so good. Why the occupied territory almost no Jews at the time had any connection to? Because it is supposed to have been home in the ancient text, it is permissible to migrate and then displace the people currently living there? And people are only supposed to see this as a right for them and it's somehow antisemitic to suggest Palestinians really do have a right to live there and not as prisoners or refugees in their own land? Really fuggin bad idea to make that the Jewish state. We aren't doing shit with Montana
Ask yourself why the Muslim world doesn’t care about them? Why does Muslim dominated Egypt enforce a border wall between Sinai and Gaza (a wall that would make Donald blush).
The Jews have been there longer and have fought harder to keep the land. And with the land they have, they have used it for good. Israel flourishes now out of a desert with agriculture, biotech, high-tech, desalinization, etc. They’ve earned it. They fought off Jordan and the Arabs in 1948 and they fought them off again in 1967. Case closed.
The Palestinians are pawns in a sick game. The closer the Palestinians are to Israel, the more the sick and twisted Muslim clerics will want to use them. They are better off in Montana like you said. Israel was rightfully granted nationhood and immediately and consistently attacked for it. The citizens of Gaza had decades to fight for peace. They chose the sword.
Hamas and the people that voted for them are 100% evil cowards.
Exhibit A:
why are you obsessed?
Did you serve there? Do you know that there was very little difference between units when it came to IEDs, rockets, mortars?
Stop what? You asked a question, I gave you an answer. I doubt you have one iota of what it was like over there.
