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200 Total Yards of Offense

Mar 14, 2003
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200 yards is not going to cut it on most days. With that said, this game shows how important special teams (return game) and defense (turnovers) can be.

Special teams may not necessarily win you games, but it can certainly lose them.
 
Less than optimum for certain, but it shows that if you clean up everything else it is still possible to win football games. And when it gets right down to it, that counts more than ANYTHING else.

To me, the 2018 season just got off to a fantastic start!
 
I hope to God that we address the punting situation before the start of next season...that's all I'm going to say.
I find it really difficult to believe that Rastetter was our best option at punter all season long.

Hopefully, the team finds a capable punter for next season. Rastetter was more of a liability than an asset.
 
A W is a W but that offense was disgusting. We had like 40 yards at Half. If Akrum was not a one man band we would have lost that. (I know.... aunts and balls and uncles...)
 
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200 yards is not going to cut it on most days. With that said, this game shows how important special teams (return game) and defense (turnovers) can be.

Special teams may not necessarily win you games, but it can certainly lose them.

It was not pretty from a yardage standpoint, but I would point out that they ran like 15 or so more plays than us. I dont understand how Fant is not a bigger piece of our non red zone offense.
 
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We definitely need to find an expanded role for Fant. He is a nightmare matchup for most LB's. I think Iowa could use him in the slot as well.

The punting game sucked this year and that is being polite about it. You can't continually allow teams to start +/- 5 yards or so of the 50 and expect to win.
 
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Always find it funny when a point like this is thrown out there without acknowledging that one of our first-half drives started inside the BC 10 because of the pick, and another inside the BC 25 because of the return. Hard to rack up offensive yardage when you have <25 yards of field in front of you.
 
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I thought our game plans on both sides of the ball were very poor because they looked like they were crafted off of film on BC but completely discounted the field conditions and weather. In the second half they made the adjustments based on field conditions and weather to shut them down.

First half offense....zone stretch plays, running wide, empty backfields to throw??????

Second half offense.... straight ahead running

First half D.... huge cushions in the secondary, allowed tons of 2-3 yard dump passes to the tight end that were uncovered catch and runs???

Second half D ... tightened up to make that crappy QB throw into tighter windows, stuff the run
 
Sorry, but when Alrec was dropped from the line-up, and we promoted Paulson swapped Wirfs to Left Tackle, my heart sank. And their play in the first half pretty much warranted the sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Just glad the return game emerged and the 2nd half adjustments saved the day.
 
Too lazy to do the math, but factor in special teams yardage and average field position, the yardage is much closer. That said, our offense does suck. The sacks and inept reponse to the gift from Gervase is inexcusable
 
200 yards is not going to cut it on most days. With that said, this game shows how important special teams (return game) and defense (turnovers) can be.

Special teams may not necessarily win you games, but it can certainly lose them.

"Stats are for losers. Final score's for winners." Bill Belicheck.

 
It was a tale of two halves. Iowa had barely 50 yards of offense in the first half (reminded me a lot of the Wisconsin game), and basically tripled that in the second half. The second-half adjustments - especially defensively - are some of the best I've seen in a while. If I watched just the second half, if someone said Iowa had 375 yards of total offense I wouldn't have blinked an eye. They weren't perfect, but they at least had decent field position and gave BC poorer starting field position in the second half.
 
Always find it funny when a point like this is thrown out there without acknowledging that one of our first-half drives started inside the BC 10 because of the pick, and another inside the BC 25 because of the return. Hard to rack up offensive yardage when you have <25 yards of field in front of you.

We also started drives on our 8 yard line our 35 and our 20. We had about 11 minutes of ToP in the first half. Excuses:xxxxx..... everyone has one and they stink.
 
Stanley was a big reason why we only had 50 yards of offense. He always comes out in the first quarter with a deer in the headlights look in his face. We start our first drive at the 5. 3 horrible play calls in a row and we end up with 3 points. Why do you have him throw it on second and third down after a first down run up the gut with a 195 lb back? If you're going to throw it, you do it on first down. Hopefully, Brian will learn how to break tendencies next year. BC did it, they broke their trend running right and ran all to the left side in the first quarter.This isn't complicated stuff!

Stanley has to learn about pocket presence. When to step up, when to get rid of it and when to trust what he is seeing. The sacks he takes are inexcusable and drive killers.
Even the announcers were commenting during the game that he had guys wide open and doesn't throw it and takes sacks that aren't necessary. He threw for 26 touchdowns this year, second to only Chuck Long's 27.
He could have easily thrown 35 if he ever learns how to throw an accurate deep ball and trust his instincts.
If he corrects these mistakes, I look for big things to come from him next year.
 
Always find it funny when a point like this is thrown out there without acknowledging that one of our first-half drives started inside the BC 10 because of the pick, and another inside the BC 25 because of the return. Hard to rack up offensive yardage when you have <25 yards of field in front of you.
Also hard to rack up yards when going 2/11 on 3rd downs but yeah....those two posessions factored in. Plenty of other games this yr we couldnt move the ball consistently so not like this was an outlier. Lowest yrds ever given up by Bucky in bten gm still stings bad (especially with a houseful of Badgers living next door!)
 
Always find it funny when a point like this is thrown out there without acknowledging that one of our first-half drives started inside the BC 10 because of the pick, and another inside the BC 25 because of the return. Hard to rack up offensive yardage when you have <25 yards of field in front of you.
don't let the fact that the drive started inside the 10 was 3 plays for 0 yards get in the way of Your point .
 
Too lazy to do the math, but factor in special teams yardage and average field position, the yardage is much closer. That said, our offense does suck. The sacks and inept reponse to the gift from Gervase is inexcusable


Total All Purpose Yardage for the 2017 Pinstripe Bowl

Iowa 406
BC 476

Interception Returns
Iowa 34
BC 0

Kickoff Returns
Iowa 171
BC 95

Punt Returns
Iowa 1
BC -2

Field goals
Iowa 2-2
BC 2-3

Turnovers
Iowa 0
BC 3

GO HAWKS!!
 
Stanley was a big reason why we only had 50 yards of offense. He always comes out in the first quarter with a deer in the headlights look in his face. We start our first drive at the 5. 3 horrible play calls in a row and we end up with 3 points. Why do you have him throw it on second and third down after a first down run up the gut with a 195 lb back? If you're going to throw it, you do it on first down. Hopefully, Brian will learn how to break tendencies next year. BC did it, they broke their trend running right and ran all to the left side in the first quarter.This isn't complicated stuff!

Stanley has to learn about pocket presence. When to step up, when to get rid of it and when to trust what he is seeing. The sacks he takes are inexcusable and drive killers.
Even the announcers were commenting during the game that he had guys wide open and doesn't throw it and takes sacks that aren't necessary. He threw for 26 touchdowns this year, second to only Chuck Long's 27.
He could have easily thrown 35 if he ever learns how to throw an accurate deep ball and trust his instincts.
If he corrects these mistakes, I look for big things to come from him next year.
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don't let the fact that the drive started inside the 10 was 3 plays for 0 yards get in the way of Your point .

My point is that for two possessions in the first half we only had 30ish yards combined that could've been gained because of great defensive and special teams plays. That played a part in the "only had 200 yards of offense" thing. Really not that hard to understand.
 
I thought our game plans on both sides of the ball were very poor because they looked like they were crafted off of film on BC but completely discounted the field conditions and weather. In the second half they made the adjustments based on field conditions and weather to shut them down.

First half offense....zone stretch plays, running wide, empty backfields to throw??????

Second half offense.... straight ahead running

First half D.... huge cushions in the secondary, allowed tons of 2-3 yard dump passes to the tight end that were uncovered catch and runs???

Second half D ... tightened up to make that crappy QB throw into tighter windows, stuff the run

I was happy Iowa found a way to win. Second half looked like Iowa football, outscored BC 17-3. First half Iowa stayed close because BC turned the ball over and Iowa didn't, and because of special teams. I could make the argument special teams won the game for Iowa. BC missed the FG and gave up 2 long KO returns.

The gameplan may have been flawed, I don't know. First play Iowa ran after the Gervase INT was shotgun handoff to Wadley and it got stuffed. Iowa went back to the same play out of the same formation after the Nelson strip sack and Hesse recovery. This time it went for 27 yards. So was the gameplan wrong, or did Iowa like what they saw in that formation and just blocked it better the second time? I don't know, I'm just asking.
 
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I hope to God that we address the punting situation before the start of next season...that's all I'm going to say.

I try never to call out specific players who was trying their best and are still in school, etc...but I find it hard to comprehend that there isn't another soul on that squad that could semi-consistently punt the ball more than 20 yards downfield. I could punt it further than that when I was that age and I was never near being a D1 FB player.
 
I was happy Iowa found a way to win. Second half looked like Iowa football, outscored BC 17-3. First half Iowa stayed close because BC turned the ball over and Iowa didn't, and because of special teams. I could make the argument special teams won the game for Iowa. BC missed the FG and gave up 2 long KO returns.

The gameplan may have been flawed, I don't know. First play Iowa ran after the Gervase INT was shotgun handoff to Wadley and it got stuffed. Iowa went back to the same play out of the same formation after the Nelson strip sack and Hesse recovery. This time it went for 27 yards. So was the gameplan wrong, or did Iowa like what they saw in that formation and just blocked it better the second time? I don't know, I'm just asking.

I have no problems with the play call stuffing the run from the 6. We should run the freaking ball. My issue was the next play call with an empty backfield taking out our best play maker in Wadley off the field. I would have come back with a run or a pass to Wadley, Fant or Hoeckensen in the flat if you are going to throw but do it out of a run set. I like a run heavy approach with straight on blocking on a slick field and first and goal from the 6. If you pick up some yards then you have the option to go fir it on 4th. You have 4 downs to get 6 yards. It’s like we gave up on the run after one poor play.
 
We definitely need to find an expanded role for Fant. He is a nightmare matchup for most LB's. I think Iowa could use him in the slot as well.

The punting game sucked this year and that is being polite about it. You can't continually allow teams to start +/- 5 yards or so of the 50 and expect to win.

True. ^^ How about some shallow crossing patterns...and plenty of them? You know, like the ones that BC used against last night?
 
Nepotism.....Hawks were able to overcome an offensive coordinator that had ZERO experience for a 8 - 5 record.

No one hires an OC in the big ten that has no history of calling plays...well except for Iowa. You can thank Uncle Gary and daddy Kirk for the 107th ranked offense in the nation.

GD leaves the program and who does Iowa interview for the position? That's right.....NOBODY!

It's a slap in the face to the fans and unfair to the players that a qualified applicant was not hired. If Brian comes out again next year and shits the bed with an offense ranked > 90th in the nation he needs to be terminated....just like he would with that level of performance in a power 5 conference.
 
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Nepotism.....Hawks were able to overcome an offensive coordinator that had ZERO experience for a 8 - 5 record.

No one hires an OC in the big ten that has no history of calling plays...well except for Iowa. You can thank Uncle Gary and daddy Kirk for the 107th ranked offense in the nation.

GD leaves the program and who does Iowa interview for the position? That's right.....NOBODY!

It's a slap in the face to the fans and unfair to the players that a qualified applicant was not hired. If Brian comes out again next year and shits the bed with an offense ranked > 90th in the nation he needs to be terminated....just like he would with that level of performance in a power 5 conference.

I tend to agree. In a performance based position you cannot perform worse than the guy, who got ran out of town, before you and expect to keep your job. FWIW I hope brian does get it figured out.
 
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Always find it funny when a point like this is thrown out there without acknowledging that one of our first-half drives started inside the BC 10 because of the pick, and another inside the BC 25 because of the return. Hard to rack up offensive yardage when you have <25 yards of field in front of you.

You know Iowa did get the ball more than 2 times in 1st half?

Another way to look at the game is it was typical KF/BF 2017. Quite boring to watch and relying on one stud (Wadley) to make plays.

Season was okay. OSU win was great but pathetic offensive games vs MSU/Wisconsin/Purdue/NW kept the team from being much more than than slightly above average.

Maybe 2018 will be better, but KF/BF won't get bailed out by Wadley, Jackson, or Jewel making exceptional individual plays.
 
You know Iowa did get the ball more than 2 times in 1st half?

Another way to look at the game is it was typical KF/BF 2017. Quite boring to watch and relying on one stud (Wadley) to make plays.

Season was okay. OSU win was great but pathetic offensive games vs MSU/Wisconsin/Purdue/NW kept the team from being much more than than slightly above average.

Maybe 2018 will be better, but KF/BF won't get bailed out by Wadley, Jackson, or Jewel making exceptional individual plays.

Bailed out?
I would say those plays are exactly the expectation and the reason they were recruited.
 
Bailed out?
I would say those plays are exactly the expectation and the reason they were recruited.

Go back and watch wadleys run with 1:15 left in the Iowa State game. That wasn't a coach calling a play to win the game, it was a player making 6 guys miss, running away from 1 guy, and then bulldozing a guy into the end zone. If the "expectation" is having a 2 star turn into a poor man's Barry Sanders "we" are going to lose alot of football games and my 8th grade football coach could have called the plays. Don't get me started on recruitting over the last decade. Akrum Wadley BAILED this stagnant offense out a couple times and that isn't a giant knock on the staff as you mentioned they had to call the play to give him a shot to make the play. That being said I don't see the guy on our roster that can do what wads did to mich or PSU or ISU single handedly and next year the system is going to have to generate the offense not just hand the ball to the best athlete on the feild. Should be exciting.
 
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Go back and watch wadleys run with 1:15 left in the Iowa State game. That wasn't a coach calling a play to win the game, it was a player making 6 guys miss, running away from 1 guy, and then bulldozing a guy into the end zone. If the "expectation" is having a 2 star turn into a poor man's Barry Sanders "we" are going to lose alot of football games and my 8th grade football coach could have called the plays. Don't get me started on recruitting over the last decade. Akrum Wadley BAILED this stagnant offense out a couple times and that isn't a giant knock on the staff as you mentioned they had to call the play to give him a shot to make the play. That being said I don't see the guy on our roster that can do what wads did to mich or PSU or ISU single handedly and next year the system is going to have to generate the offense not just hand the ball to the best athlete on the feild. Should be exciting.


Most plays are called to put players in a position to make a play. That ISU play, got Wadley out in space and have him make a play. Which is exactly what he did. No, your 8th grade coach could not call the plays at a major college football program.
 
Most plays are called to put players in a position to make a play. That ISU play, got Wadley out in space and have him make a play. Which is exactly what he did. No, your 8th grade coach could not call the plays at a major college football program.

Agreed, the coaches put the players in position to succeed. Akrum succeeded in plays not many people would have been able too, that will not be there for the coaches next year. The play call in space was what got wadley 1 on 1 with lanning and probably a first down, the remaining 40 yards are pure athlete. Watch the play. Every heard a coach say "you can't teach that"? Or "the coach didn't fumble the ball"? Players make plays to win games, coaches make calls that lose games, officials make calls that change games. Again, if the call is get the ball to our best player in a 1 on 1 with a linebacker and watch him do the rest, my 8th grade coach could call that play.
 
Why do you have him throw it on second and third down after a first down run up the gut with a 195 lb back?

I agree, throw it on first down,... And I know Akrum is the hometown guy, but I would have preferred to see us use Butler here....
 
Stanley was a big reason why we only had 50 yards of offense. He always comes out in the first quarter with a deer in the headlights look in his face. We start our first drive at the 5. 3 horrible play calls in a row and we end up with 3 points. Why do you have him throw it on second and third down after a first down run up the gut with a 195 lb back? If you're going to throw it, you do it on first down. Hopefully, Brian will learn how to break tendencies next year. BC did it, they broke their trend running right and ran all to the left side in the first quarter.This isn't complicated stuff!

Stanley has to learn about pocket presence. When to step up, when to get rid of it and when to trust what he is seeing. The sacks he takes are inexcusable and drive killers.
Even the announcers were commenting during the game that he had guys wide open and doesn't throw it and takes sacks that aren't necessary. He threw for 26 touchdowns this year, second to only Chuck Long's 27.
He could have easily thrown 35 if he ever learns how to throw an accurate deep ball and trust his instincts.
If he corrects these mistakes, I look for big things to come from him next year.
He missed some open receivers as well as the poor first down play selection
 
I'm going to give a pass due to the field conditions that were absolutely atrocious and wait to see how BF does in his second year with a much easier schedule. If it was me, I'd move Brian to Oline Coach/Assistant Head Coach and move Tim P to OC. Brian has no business being an OC while Tim Polasek does after being one at NDSU.

Concerning the Pinstripe Bowl, B1G office should tell the Pinstripe the only way we play in the game moving forward is the field must be heated so there is no way the conditions ever allow the game to be played on an ice rink like what took place Wednesday evening.

It was an embarrassment to the game and the Yankee Organization to have a field with that kind of condition. Just glad no players where seriously injured.
 
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