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2024 Sea Surface Temperature exceed previous records by wide margin

He didn't post the article; he posted an abstract.
No, I read the article. I claimed it came from nature, so I had to post a link to nature or people would have freaked out and claimed I was lying. Lol.

Ftr, before you go on a tangent claiming im wrong, I am using this article to point out that turbines increase night temps, when night temps increase but day temps remain the same, this will cause the daily average to rise. Thus giving confirmation that "climate change" is happening.
 
"We know from Fig. 3D that the impact of wind farms starts decreasing sharply as ambient surface KE dissipation rate becomes larger than 2.7W∕m2 and becomes almost zero at
dissipation rates higher than 6W∕m2"

Someone didn't read his own link.
 
Sorry, I forgot you guys don't do any research.
They are talking a slight noticed warming at night at the actual local wind farms, not “causing global warming”, Re Re.
 
No, I read the article. I claimed it came from nature, so I had to post a link to nature or people would have freaked out and claimed I was lying. Lol.

Ftr, before you go on a tangent claiming im wrong, I am using this article to point out that turbines increase night temps, when night temps increase but day temps remain the same, this will cause the daily average to rise. Thus giving confirmation that "climate change" is happening.
aren't you a doctor? Or am I thinking of someone else? To claim that wind farms cause global warming is some loony ass shit.
 
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Did you know wind turbines cause global warming? We should ban them immediately.
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They are talking a slight noticed warming at night at the actual local wind farms, not “causing global warming”, Re Re.
There is lots of research out there about this stuff. There are experts in the field who say the same thing I am saying. Unfortunately, it is taboo to discuss this topic because it goes against the left's climate change narrative. I am a believer of science. I want to debate real science, not just push a specific narrative.
 
There is lots of research out there about this stuff. There are experts in the field who say the same thing I am saying. Unfortunately, it is taboo to discuss this topic because it goes against the left's climate change narrative. I am a believer of science. I want to debate real science, not just push a specific narrative.
That link is to a silly hypothetical article about the REGIONAL temperature changes that COULD happen in the Midwest IF we decided to make wind power the source of ALL electricity in the US. And even then, it is not global warming. But as she says at the end "Still, the study’s scenario is unlikely: Even within a fossil fuel–free world, power generation would probably include a mix of wind, solar and geothermal energy sources. And eliminating fossil fuels would reduce carbon dioxide emissions, ultimately conferring long-term benefits to the planet."
 
There is lots of research out there about this stuff. There are experts in the field who say the same thing I am saying. Unfortunately, it is taboo to discuss this topic because it goes against the left's climate change narrative. I am a believer of science. I want to debate real science, not just push a specific narrative.
Lets suppose the research you are pointing out is true: wind turbines, (if enough to meet all our power needs) would increase temps .24 C. (suppose means assume)

What would be the reduction in CO2 and resulting drop in temp be? This is like our governor Kimmies kindergarten views: rather than spend 3 million to get 30 million in funding, we'll just do nothing.

Undoubtedly you are a republican, so think of this like trickle down economics. Reduce taxes for the wealthy and the poor people will eventually reap the rewards (lol). Reduce CO2 emissions and we all win. (actually true)
 
There is lots of research out there about this stuff. There are experts in the field who say the same thing I am saying. Unfortunately, it is taboo to discuss this topic because it goes against the left's climate change narrative. I am a believer of science. I want to debate real science, not just push a specific narrative.

Hey researcher... there's an operative word in that title. And that's how I KNOW you don't have ANY college degree
 
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There is lots of research out there about this stuff. There are experts in the field who say the same thing I am saying. Unfortunately, it is taboo to discuss this topic because it goes against the left's climate change narrative. I am a believer of science. I want to debate real science, not just push a specific narrative.

So, 1/4th to 1/6th what carbon-based fuels have already caused.

That would seem to be a "win"....
 
aren't you a doctor? Or am I thinking of someone else? To claim that wind farms cause global warming is some loony ass shit.
I am not doing the research on this stuff, this is coming from real scientists. Unfortunately, these scientists are being cancelled because they are not going along with the lefts climate change agenda.
 
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I am not doing the research on this stuff, this is coming from real scientists. Unfortunately, these scientists are being cancelled because they are not going along with the lefts climate change agenda.

Lol ..hey MR. RESEARCHER, still waiting on your degrees and what research you do

Nevermind, don't worry about... EVERYONE knows you are so full of shit
 
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That link is to a silly hypothetical article about the REGIONAL temperature changes that COULD happen in the Midwest IF we decided to make wind power the source of ALL electricity in the US. And even then, it is not global warming. But as she says at the end "Still, the study’s scenario is unlikely: Even within a fossil fuel–free world, power generation would probably include a mix of wind, solar and geothermal energy sources. And eliminating fossil fuels would reduce carbon dioxide emissions, ultimately conferring long-term benefits to the planet."
"silly hypothetical", this is the basis of all the climate simulations. People are not dying in mass numbers due to global warming. The hysteria is based off hypothetical predictions that may or may not come true. It is disingenuous to dismiss one hypothetical situation but treat the other as if it is written in stone.
 
Lol ..hey MR. RESEARCHER, still waiting on you degrees and what research you do

Nevermind, don't worry about... EVERYONE knows you are so full of shit
I work at a research hospital in medicine. There are a lot of people on here that may identify me if I give my position and credentials. You can take that for what its worth.
 
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Call me when Obama sells his mansion on Martha’s Vineyard due to rising sea levels.
You forgot one



 
Such a cop out to not give a shit...if you have kids, do you not care the world you're leaving them?
No, not as it pertains to the global warming scam. However, I am concerned about how the left has decided to allow crime to run rampant and is allowing terrorists and gang members to walk across our national border.
 
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"We know from Fig. 3D that the impact of wind farms starts decreasing sharply as ambient surface KE dissipation rate becomes larger than 2.7W∕m2 and becomes almost zero at
dissipation rates higher than 6W∕m2"

Someone didn't read his own link.
On most posts, I picture Joes Place, laying on the floor kicking and screaming like a 2 year old yelling I'm right, I'm right, I'm right..........😪😪😪😪
 
Wouldn’t it be more constructive to talk about what you’re willing to do to fix climate change rather than post panic porn?

If you are correct (and I assume you have full faith you think you are) then you know:

1. It’s almost too late before we reach the path of no return
2. Humans thus far do not seem to be willing to do what it takes to fix it

Therefore, how far are you willing to go to solve the issue? You can talk about how you could buy an EV, convince your neighbor to stop eating beef but that’s not enough. How far are you willing to go? Talk about that instead.
 
Lets suppose the research you are pointing out is true: wind turbines, (if enough to meet all our power needs) would increase temps .24 C. (suppose means assume)

What would be the reduction in CO2 and resulting drop in temp be? This is like our governor Kimmies kindergarten views: rather than spend 3 million to get 30 million in funding, we'll just do nothing.

Undoubtedly you are a republican, so think of this like trickle down economics. Reduce taxes for the wealthy and the poor people will eventually reap the rewards (lol). Reduce CO2 emissions and we all win. (actually true)
I disagree on multiple levels.
1. I don't trust the data that is used to be accurate. There is plenty of opportunity for manipulation and there is evidence that the models the data is run through skews the newest data higher (showing warming that may not be real).
2. I don't believe wind turbines, solar, and electric cars are the answer. They all have their place, but on the large scale they are not the answer. We are pushing these technologies too fast and we are pushing them due to politics rather than because they are truly the best option.
3. Science is too political and this is inhibiting the truth from being found. There is truth to both sides of the climate change argument, but the left has shut down any discussion and said if you don't believe them then you are a far right wing extremist. (generally when this happens, they are hiding stuff)
4. I think it is important to keep nature natural. I do not want solar farms and wind farms covering our beautiful landscape. I think there is an aesthetic component that is not being taken into consideration.
5. I support decreasing pollution, I think this should be the focus rather than some unachievable net zero goal.
6. plastic comes from petroleum, I don't see plastic going away anytime soon. Oil is a part of our past and future and we should work on finding cleaner ways to process it instead of thinking it is this great evil.
7. The eye test for climate change does not fit the hysteria behind it. The weather may be slightly warmer than it was when I was a kid, but my life does not suffer in any way. However, my life is much easier and safer now than it would have been in 1860. Gas has allowed a certain quality of life that would not have been possible without it.
8. CO2 does cause a greenhouse effect up to a certain point, but after it reaches a certain level, the greenhouse effect will not continue to rise exponentially.
9. Im not sure how anyone can take the elite seriously about climate change when they continue to fly their private jets around the world and pretend that its ok for them, but we all need to get electric cars. If climate change was seriously threatening our world, don't you think they should stop contributing to it as well?
10. Trickle down economics suck. They help the rich and the poor never see the benefits.
 
I disagree on multiple levels.
1. I don't trust the data that is used to be accurate.

But you 'trust' the people who post misinformation for you.

And "inaccuracy" goes both ways - meaning if scientists are wrong in underestimating the future warming and consequences, we are truly f***ed.
 
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I have said this in previous threads about climate change. I am ok with taking the side of a Nobel Prize winner.
"Earth’s temperature is primarily determined by cloud cover, not carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels. He has concluded that clouds have a net cooling effect on the planet, so there is no climate crisis."

In reality, clouds can cause both heat retention and cooling. A thick cloud cover can hold the heat in, but they can also block the sun from warming the earth. Either way, clouds are more important to climate than co2. Clouds are currently unpredictable and there is no consensus for how to account for them in climate models.

“It has happened in science that the majority was dead wrong. I have no idea if that is the case here, but science has to be open to debate.”
 
"Clauser has not been welcomed everywhere. In July, he was scheduled to deliver a seminar on climate models to the International Monetary Fund’s Independent Evaluation Office, but then the event was “summarily canceled” with no explanation, the CO2 Coalition said in a statement at the time."

Its not a coincidence that the IMF does not want a climate denier speaking at their event. They are fully integrated with the WEF, UN, SDGs and everything that is climate change. Yes, he is being censored for not sharing the view they want.
 
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But you 'trust' the people who post misinformation for you.

And "inaccuracy" goes both ways - meaning if scientists are wrong in underestimating the future warming and consequences, we are truly f***ed.
Climate change is part of the SDGs that Obama agreed to in 2015. He has spent billions to address climate change. People who have spent their entire career addressing a specific problem do not willingly admit it was never a problem in the first place. It is the left who have tried to silence the people who disagree with climate change. I tend to believe the people who don't have to censor others to make their point.
 
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I have said this in previous threads about climate change. I am ok with taking the side of a Nobel Prize winner.
"Earth’s temperature is primarily determined by cloud cover, not carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels. He has concluded that clouds have a net cooling effect on the planet, so there is no climate crisis."

In reality, clouds can cause both heat retention and cooling. A thick cloud cover can hold the heat in, but they can also block the sun from warming the earth. Either way, clouds are more important to climate than co2. Clouds are currently unpredictable and there is no consensus for how to account for them in climate models.

“It has happened in science that the majority was dead wrong. I have no idea if that is the case here, but science has to be open to debate.”

You know how I know you're full of shit...
 
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