Damn. Certainly looks like a Fran player. Hopefully his cousin is in his ear.No offer yet, but Caleb Haack from Iowa Valley HS is a kid to keep a close eye on. Really good looking film for a sophomore. His game is a bit reminiscent of Jarrod Uthoff, which makes sense since they’re cousins.
So what would happen if all of these guys would commit? At least 4 or 5 are 6'5 to 6'7 and 200=210 lb. don't need that many do we?2025 Offers/Prospects visits this weekend:
'25 PF Trent Sisley: Indiana, UV
'25 CG Jalen Haralson: Indiana, UV
'25 PF Davis Kern: Iowa, UV (Linn-Mar)
'25 SG Jalen Wilson: Iowa, UV (Minneapolis)
Well, usually in recruiting once a guy or 2 commits for a position a team will rescind their scholarship offers to others in that class. Often times folks here will refer to that as "uncommittable offers" or "he's not a take." That's also how Iowa can have 20+ offers out in the 2024 class for hoops with only 2-4 scholarships actually available.So what would happen if all of these guys would commit? At least 4 or 5 are 6'5 to 6'7 and 200=210 lb. don't need that many do we?
agreedI have learned not to get too excited about Iowa basketball recruiting. There are some surprises but many second-place finishes.
Let me ask you a question-- Doesn't the idea of Iowa finishing 2nd to schools like Duke, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc indicate that Fran is going after the right type of guys? I think Bill Self said it best, "If I'm not losing out on more recruits than I am getting that means that I'm not scouting the right type of players."I have learned not to get too excited about Iowa basketball recruiting. There are some surprises but many second-place finishes.
Let me ask you a question-- Doesn't the idea of Iowa finishing 2nd to schools like Duke, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc indicate that Fran is going after the right type of guys? I think Bill Self said it best, "If I'm not losing out on more recruits than I am getting that means that I'm not scouting the right type of players."
And let's not pretend that Iowa hasn't been somewhat successful on the recruiting trail lately--they just haven't gotten the high 4 and 5-star guys they've been deep on. Just going off TOS here since they have an "All-time basketball recruits" tab that's easy to follow, these players are ranked as the highest ranked recruits Iowa has ever landed since they started ranking kids (2003ish):
Cooper Koch #4
Pryce Sandfort #6
Dasonte Bowen #13
Josh Dix #14
Ladji Dembele #15
So 1/3 of the top 15 all-time ranked recruits have come from the '22-'24 class. And that doesn't even include Freeman, who maybe had the best offer list out of anyone listed.
I will have to see about those five players when they get on the court.Let me ask you a question-- Doesn't the idea of Iowa finishing 2nd to schools like Duke, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc indicate that Fran is going after the right type of guys? I think Bill Self said it best, "If I'm not losing out on more recruits than I am getting that means that I'm not scouting the right type of players."
And let's not pretend that Iowa hasn't been somewhat successful on the recruiting trail lately--they just haven't gotten the high 4 and 5-star guys they've been deep on. Just going off TOS here since they have an "All-time basketball recruits" tab that's easy to follow, these players are ranked as the highest ranked recruits Iowa has ever landed since they started ranking kids (2003ish):
Cooper Koch #4
Pryce Sandfort #6
Dasonte Bowen #13
Josh Dix #14
Ladji Dembele #15
So 1/3 of the top 15 all-time ranked recruits have come from the '22-'24 class. And that doesn't even include Freeman, who maybe had the best offer list out of anyone listed.
I mean sure, but what exactly is your complaint then? I read your complaint as Fran isn't landing highly rated, competitive recruits--which is partially true, but again the recruiting has seen an uptick in 4-star prospects overall the past few years. They've just been in on some 5-star guys late in the process who then decide to go elsewhere.I will have to see about those five players when they get on the court.
It includes rating at the end of the class being finalized so play in college does not effect the rating. Here is the top 15:Not sure you should be quoting a coach like Bill Self, who was about as corrupt as they came before NIL. After all, the NCAA charged Bill Self with THREE Level 1 (most serious) violations, alleging he was in on the Adidas scheme.
I agree with you that Fran has done a good job in recruiting.
So, the top 15 all time list only includes kids who committed to and played at Iowa during the Alford, Lickliter and McCaffery eras, correct (from 2003)? Is Luka Garza #1? Keegan should be #2, but it appears it's the ranking coming out of high school. Hell, I think any poster on here could have recruited as well as Lick. Did any of his recruits make the list? I guess he did convince Dev Marble to sign....
When will we see some NCAA tourney wins?I mean sure, but what exactly is your complaint then? I read your complaint as Fran isn't landing highly rated, competitive recruits--which is partially true, but again the recruiting has seen an uptick in 4-star prospects overall the past few years. They've just been in on some 5-star guys late in the process who then decide to go elsewhere.
If we are including actual playing on the court, some of those highly rated recruits that it sounds like you're upset we lost out on also have either not panned out yet or haven't played a second of college hoops either. Guys like Xavier Foster, Jamari Sibley, Tyler Nickel all seemed like big misses at the time, and then in hindsight they haven't really shown that well on the court.
That's a completely different conversation than the one we started with. You were complaining about finishing second to high level recruits. When I responded with some information that says the last few classes have been rated highly you then diverted the conversation again to a different talking point about waiting to see how they play. Are you just incapable of staying on topic or are you just looking for something to complain about?When will we see some NCAA tourney wins?
Good list, which shows Fran has done better recruiting than some want to believe. This list leaves off at least 3 guys who were as good as anyone on the list--the Murray twins and White.It includes rating at the end of the class being finalized so play in college does not effect the rating. Here is the top 15:
1. Tyler Smith
2. Joe Weiskamp
3. Adam Woodberry
4. Cooper Koch
5. Patrick McCaffery
6. Pryce Sandfort
7. Tyler Cook
8. Mike Gesell
9. Matt Gatens
10. Alex Thompson
11. JR Angle
12. Luka Garza
13. Dasonte Bowen
14. Josh Dix
15. Ladji Dembele
6’5 wing out of the DC area. Son of Christy Winters Scott who announces a lot of women’s games
Nice prospect. Already strong and able to use either hand effectively. Won't be able to go to the basket as much in college, but more of a slasher than Iowa has had at a wing in a while.