233 Players have filed for early entry for 2019 NBA Draft

[Franisdaman]

NBA draft: 233 early-entry prospects declare for 2019
Apr 23, 2019

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  Jonathan GivonyESPN

The NBA informed teams Tuesday that 233 players have filed as early-entry candidates for the 2019 NBA draft, including 175 from the college ranks and a record 58 internationals.

The deadline for underclassmen and international players to submit paperwork to the league office making themselves eligible for the draft was Sunday night.

This number is down slightly from last year, when 236 early entrants declared -- 181 from American colleges and postgraduate institutions plus 55 internationals. For the first time, NCAA players are allowed to hire certified agents to guide them through the draft process.

The NBA has also provided an additional platform for underclassmen to showcase themselves in front of teams with the newly revamped G League Elite Camp. This camp, held May 12-14 in Chicago just prior to the NBA draft combine May 15, will allow approximately 40 NCAA seniors and underclassmen to work out and scrimmage in front of scouts and executives, with the top performers advancing to join the ranks of the 60 players participating at the main combine.

On the international front, several agents told ESPN they put their clients' names on the NBA draft early-entry list solely due to their desire to ensure they are able to participate in the NBA Global Camp, which debuted for the first time last year under the NBA's umbrella. This year's camp is tentatively slated to be held in Monaco from May 30 through June 2. This might partially account for the record number of internationals who made themselves eligible.

The NBA told agents last year after the release of the early-entry list that it would be inviting to the camp only players who had previously made themselves eligible for the NBA draft. While no official policy has been announced this year, and the camp itself is yet to be finalized, many agents preferred to err on the side of caution and make their players eligible to avoid being shut out of the prestigious platform.

The number of players testing the waters has steadily grown since the NCAA made sweeping changes to its early-entry rules prior to the 2016 draft, allowing players to enter the draft, attend the combine, work out for teams and withdraw their names within 10 days of the conclusion of the combine in late May. From 2009 to 2015, any player whose name appeared on the NBA draft early-entry list immediately became ineligible to return to college.

According to NCAA rules, players who wish to maintain their collegiate eligibility must withdraw from the draft by May 29 by informing both the NBA and their schools' athletic directors. International players must withdraw from the draft by June 10 at 5 p.m. ET.

The NBA draft will be held June 20 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

LINK: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26586762/nba-draft-233-early-entry-prospects-declare-2019

 

[Niko13]

All vying for 1 of the 60 slots. A lot of kids getting a lot of bad info/ advice.

 

[icwesthawk]

Wonder what Joe is being told?

 

[Franisdaman]

All vying for 1 of the 60 slots. A lot of kids getting a lot of bad info/ advice.

If you look at all the NBA rosters, it is rare to find more than one rookie on each roster; if you are not a 1st round pick, it's really hard to make a roster

 

[Run&Blade]

All vying for 1 of the 60 slots. A lot of kids getting a lot of bad info/ advice.

Considering most 2nd rounds don’t even make a roster it’s even worse.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

NBA players today are loaded with talent, and a big portion of them are pretty young. There is obviously a very large pool of talent wanting to get to the NBA as well.

Minor league baseball seems to work. The Cedar Rapids Kernals have 31 guys on the roster and 4 coaches. They have their own stadium. The Dayton Dragons had 556,000 attend their games last year. I counted 160 teams, including those in Altoona, Clinton, Hagerstown, Visalia, and, of course, Cedar Rapids.

Why can't minor league basketball work? You have rosters of 13-15, 2 or 3 coaches. You rent an arena for games and practice, or maybe practice at a high school. It might not be profitable, but I seriously doubt minor league baseball is either.

Of course, the answer is ..... College Basketball! Why pay for a league when a "college league" is free!

 

[Run&Blade]

NBA players today are loaded with talent, and a big portion of them are pretty young. There is obviously a very large pool of talent wanting to get to the NBA as well.

Minor league baseball seems to work. The Cedar Rapids Kernals have 31 guys on the roster and 4 coaches. They have their own stadium. The Dayton Dragons had 556,000 attend their games last year. I counted 160 teams, including those in Altoona, Clinton, Hagerstown, Visalia, and, of course, Cedar Rapids.

Why can't minor league basketball work? You have rosters of 13-15, 2 or 3 coaches. You rent an arena for games and practice, or maybe practice at a high school. It might not be profitable, but I seriously doubt minor league baseball is either.

Of course, the answer is ..... College Basketball! Why pay for a league when a "college league" is free!

If minor league baseball was played indoors in the winter nobody would go. Nobody gives a tip about the players or the score at minor league games. They are outside in the sunshine enjoying beer and junk food.

Minor league baseball is very profitable in many cases. Iowa Cubs rent Principal park from Polk County for $15,000 a year and the Chicago Cubs stock the roster and pay the players.

 

[CanadaHawk]

NBA draft: 233 early-entry prospects declare for 2019
Apr 23, 2019

• 
  
  Jonathan GivonyESPN

The NBA informed teams Tuesday that 233 players have filed as early-entry candidates for the 2019 NBA draft, including 175 from the college ranks and a record 58 internationals.

The deadline for underclassmen and international players to submit paperwork to the league office making themselves eligible for the draft was Sunday night.

This number is down slightly from last year, when 236 early entrants declared -- 181 from American colleges and postgraduate institutions plus 55 internationals. For the first time, NCAA players are allowed to hire certified agents to guide them through the draft process.

The NBA has also provided an additional platform for underclassmen to showcase themselves in front of teams with the newly revamped G League Elite Camp. This camp, held May 12-14 in Chicago just prior to the NBA draft combine May 15, will allow approximately 40 NCAA seniors and underclassmen to work out and scrimmage in front of scouts and executives, with the top performers advancing to join the ranks of the 60 players participating at the main combine.

On the international front, several agents told ESPN they put their clients' names on the NBA draft early-entry list solely due to their desire to ensure they are able to participate in the NBA Global Camp, which debuted for the first time last year under the NBA's umbrella. This year's camp is tentatively slated to be held in Monaco from May 30 through June 2. This might partially account for the record number of internationals who made themselves eligible.

The NBA told agents last year after the release of the early-entry list that it would be inviting to the camp only players who had previously made themselves eligible for the NBA draft. While no official policy has been announced this year, and the camp itself is yet to be finalized, many agents preferred to err on the side of caution and make their players eligible to avoid being shut out of the prestigious platform.

The number of players testing the waters has steadily grown since the NCAA made sweeping changes to its early-entry rules prior to the 2016 draft, allowing players to enter the draft, attend the combine, work out for teams and withdraw their names within 10 days of the conclusion of the combine in late May. From 2009 to 2015, any player whose name appeared on the NBA draft early-entry list immediately became ineligible to return to college.

According to NCAA rules, players who wish to maintain their collegiate eligibility must withdraw from the draft by May 29 by informing both the NBA and their schools' athletic directors. International players must withdraw from the draft by June 10 at 5 p.m. ET.

The NBA draft will be held June 20 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

LINK: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26586762/nba-draft-233-early-entry-prospects-declare-2019

The odd thing actually is that there are fewer early entrants this year when the rules for getting back to college and not losing your eligibility are looser.

It will be interesting to see how many early entrants come back to college, how many go to the G-league, and how many go European or some other route.

 

[HawkRugged17]

NBA players today are loaded with talent, and a big portion of them are pretty young. There is obviously a very large pool of talent wanting to get to the NBA as well.

Minor league baseball seems to work. The Cedar Rapids Kernals have 31 guys on the roster and 4 coaches. They have their own stadium. The Dayton Dragons had 556,000 attend their games last year. I counted 160 teams, including those in Altoona, Clinton, Hagerstown, Visalia, and, of course, Cedar Rapids.

Why can't minor league basketball work? You have rosters of 13-15, 2 or 3 coaches. You rent an arena for games and practice, or maybe practice at a high school. It might not be profitable, but I seriously doubt minor league baseball is either.

Of course, the answer is ..... College Basketball! Why pay for a league when a "college league" is free!

There is the G League.

https://gleague.nba.com/

Starters on NBA playoff teams like Pascal Siakam, Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, and Clint Cappela are former G Leaguers. Des Moines even has a team!

https://iowa.gleague.nba.com/

 

[Hawk_4shur]

There is the G League.

https://gleague.nba.com/

Starters on NBA playoff teams like Pascal Siakam, Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, and Clint Cappela are former G Leaguers. Des Moines even has a team!

https://iowa.gleague.nba.com/

Yeah, but there are only 27 teams.

In my perfect world , the G league would pay players enough to keep the guys that ONLY want to play basketball out of college.

 

[CanadaHawk]

There is the G League.

https://gleague.nba.com/

Starters on NBA playoff teams like Pascal Siakam, Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, and Clint Cappela are former G Leaguers. Des Moines even has a team!

https://iowa.gleague.nba.com/

G-league is becoming NBA purgatory. Precious few are saved. Most are not.

 

[HawkRugged17]

G-league is becoming NBA purgatory. Precious few are saved. Most are not.

This link includes all of the players by team with G League experience. It's actually quite a lot of players.

https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-players-g-league-experience-start-of-season-2018-19/

To start the 2018-19 NBA season, an all-time high 198 players on NBA Opening Night rosters have NBA G League experience — include those under two-way contract, which was introduced last season — representing a record 40 percent of the league. That number is an increase from last season’s record total of 194 players (39%).

Just six years ago, the figure stood at 84 (19%).

 

[Hawk_4shur]

If minor league baseball was played indoors in the winter nobody would go. Nobody gives a tip about the players or the score at minor league games. They are outside in the sunshine enjoying beer and junk food.

Minor league baseball is very profitable in many cases. Iowa Cubs rent Principal park from Polk County for $15,000 a year and the Chicago Cubs stock the roster and pay the players.

True enough, but "non-NHL" hockey seems to do ok.

But, you bring up a great point - the Iowa Cubs is a joint effort of Des Moines, Polk County, Principal and the Cubs. I would love to see more of that in basketball.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

Considering most 2nd rounds don’t even make a roster it’s even worse.

You might be surprised (I was). I came across a piece on 2nd round picks and many of them are getting guaranteed contracts. That said...there's a whole lotta these guys declaring early that should get their degree.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2018/5/1...draft-second-round-picks-guaranteed-contracts

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Why can't minor league basketball work?

One major difference is like Run&Blade suggested - baseball is America's pastime; going to ballgames over the summer, even with little interest in the actual teams/score, is part of American culture.

A more tangible difference is the quality of the players. The best college football and basketball players go right to the NFL and NBA; you would never find a future megastar in a minor league version of either of those sports. However, in baseball, players NEVER go directly from college or H.S. to the show. Therefore, you have Mike Trout playing for the C.R. Kernels, Kris Bryant playing for the Kane County Cougars, Mookie Betts playing for the Greenville Drive, Jose Altuve playing for the Lexington Legends, Albert Pujols (13th round draft pick) playing for the Peoria Chiefs, etc.

That model only works with baseball.

 

[Franisdaman]

G-league is becoming NBA purgatory. Precious few are saved. Most are not.

How long will Jok put up with the G league before he heads to Europe on a permanent basis?

I thought Uthoff would be in the NBA by now

There just aren't that many NBA jobs available each year and the longer you are on the outside looking in, the more your hopes fade, imo

 

[Hawk_4shur]

One major difference is like Run&Blade suggested - baseball is America's pastime; going to ballgames over the summer, even with little interest in the actual teams/score, is part of American culture.

A more tangible difference is the quality of the players. The best college football and basketball players go right to the NFL and NBA; you would never find a future megastar in a minor league version of either of those sports. However, in baseball, players NEVER go directly from college or H.S. to the show. Therefore, you have Mike Trout playing for the C.R. Kernels, Kris Bryant playing for the Kane County Cougars, Mookie Betts playing for the Greenville Drive, Jose Altuve playing for the Lexington Legends, Albert Pujols (13th round draft pick) playing for the Peoria Chiefs, etc.

That model only works with baseball.

You're probably right.

How about if the NBA expanded the draft to more rounds, and let them draft them right out of high school?

 

[squeezebox]

If minor league baseball was played indoors in the winter nobody would go. Nobody gives a tip about the players or the score at minor league games. They are outside in the sunshine enjoying beer and junk food.

Minor league baseball is very profitable in many cases. Iowa Cubs rent Principal park from Polk County for $15,000 a year and the Chicago Cubs stock the roster and pay the players.

Adding to this minor league baseball for players that weren't drafted with signing bonus money are basically indentured servants. They make the minimum of $1100 per month during the season, and aren't payed during the offseason.

 

[go-hawks37]

Joe W is a far better prospect then Cook. A big part of it is Joe’s age.

 

[Legend12]

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[DodgerHawki]

You're probably right.

How about if the NBA expanded the draft to more rounds, and let them draft them right out of high school?

You kind of answered your own question in an earlier post. The NBA has little incentive to create a true minor league structure like baseball has as the college game serves as their de facto minor league system. The games and development in baseball and basketball are different enough that the minor league type set up is more necessary in that sport than in basketball. Minor league baseball is needed for weeding out as the thousands/millions of repetitions help build the skills needed. A high school kid in baseball may have great tools but has not consistently faced 90+ mph fastballs so may need 500-1000 at-bats against professional level pitching to get his swing right.

I would be in favor of kids being able to go pro in basketball directly from high school. If the player is good enough to be paid for playing, why do they need to go to school? Plenty of high school baseball players are taken, signed to bonuses, and then never make it to the major leagues or make it just barely and don't become stars. It's not seen as a problem. But basketball players don't really have that option, as a scant few have any guaranteed professional money.

 

[hawkeyeguy69]

NBA players today are loaded with talent, and a big portion of them are pretty young. There is obviously a very large pool of talent wanting to get to the NBA as well.

Minor league baseball seems to work. The Cedar Rapids Kernals have 31 guys on the roster and 4 coaches. They have their own stadium. The Dayton Dragons had 556,000 attend their games last year. I counted 160 teams, including those in Altoona, Clinton, Hagerstown, Visalia, and, of course, Cedar Rapids.

Why can't minor league basketball work? You have rosters of 13-15, 2 or 3 coaches. You rent an arena for games and practice, or maybe practice at a high school. It might not be profitable, but I seriously doubt minor league baseball is either.

Of course, the answer is ..... College Basketball! Why pay for a league when a "college league" is free!

It costs more to pay for college basketball players, than any minor league baseball player makes. Especially P5 schools. And the basketball players don't have to take the bus!

 

[Titanhawk2]

All vying for 1 of the 60 slots. A lot of kids getting a lot of bad info/ advice.

A lot of these guys are looking for advice and will pull out

 

[mthawkeyes]

A lot of these guys are looking for advice and will pull out

Pulling out tends to be sound advice.