Who is out there that could fill the 57 spot? As of right now, there isn't really anyone in the room that could fill the position.
57?
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Nobody at all. Rumor is that brands is just going to forfeit the weight all year.
Rathjen(RSFR) spent some time last year injured, Renya(X2RSFR), Siebrecht(So)are the options. We don’t know what any of them can do as a full time starter yet. Let them battle it out and support who wins.
IMO siebrecht, he’s got funk and I’m sure gained in the room
We don't have a known commodity at 57?
If so, I'm surprised this hasn't come up in the cesspool...
If so, I'm surprised this hasn't come up in the cesspool...
Unless a transfer falls in our lap, I'd be happy with our '57lber providing us with 2-3 points this year at Nationals. Will easily be our weakest weight
I’m pretty sure Tarp contacted Tommy about this situation and someone else got in touch with the AD..Do you think the coaches know about this issue?
I have been hearing Slaton is a likely candidate, but Grothus has been on a mission cutting down to 157. My money is on Brody!
::tongue in cheek::
well we’ll know how good of coaches TNT are based on their ability to turn an absolute no one into a national champion. (by cesspool standards, In reality the kid is probably a multi-time state placer in a competitive high school state )
in late March, I’m gonna show up here and someone will be using poor performance at this weight as proof TNT need to go.
can’t wait lol
My expectations are low. When someone said they'd be happy with 2-3 points from 157 at NCAAs, I sprayed Coke Zero through my nose. If Reyna qualifies for NCAAs, that's a victory this year.
To be fair, you would then be happy(elated even) if we got 2-3 points. 😉
Lol. The cut to 158 was BRUTAL under much different rules. Short of cutting a leg off, 157 AIN'T happening. Hell, I wouldn't even try for 165 at this point. Now, 174, that I could do. Only problem is the periods would need to be reduced to 1:00, :30 and :30. I would also request the right to be able to adjust my shoelaces whenever necessary and slowly walk back to the center.
Finally, I would reserve the right to be able to call stalemate at any time in any position. I promise to be fair when doing so!
death, taxes, and wrestling fans not realizing you essentially need to be an AA to score meaningful points at ncaas
Renya is a 4X FL state champ and super 32 champ.
As much as it would "feel good" to have a solid R12/AA type guy at 157, it doesn't bother me in slightest. Splitting hairs over guys who are going to score 0-7 pts at best are NOT where you win titles. Sure that might be the difference to put you over the edge in a super tight race between 1 and 2.. but realistically it will be your 4-5 studs who account for 90%+ of your meaningful points. Push them through to the finals and get some champs or losing in semis and taking 3-5th is the difference, not the 1 hole in the lineup. Prime example: look at every Penn State lineup that has won a team title. They have ALL had holes, some worse than our current projections at 157. No big deal, at all.
Yeah and that’s why it’s surprising he gets beat in so much.
Blaaaaaah poorly worded. I’d argue that 7th/8th often don’t score meaningful points.
Reyna's got skills, no doubt. He just doesn't have better skills than anyone in the top 16, which is who he'd face in the first round at NCAAs. He has a collegiate career record of 6-4 without ever wrestling anyone in the top 20. He's 0-2 at 157. At 149 his biggest win is a TB over #24 Vince Turk, with subsequent losses to #54 and #65.
I love Rathjen and think he has a ton of potential, but he and Siebrecht (who I admire for his funkiness and determination) both appear to be smaller than Reyna, who is a already small 157-pounder.
Murin, who is better than all of these guys, scored 4 points at NCAAs at 149, the weight they were all competing at. Meanwhile, up at 157, Young scored 2.5 points. Young's disappointing NCAA performance would be a Cinderella run for any of these guys.
In short, we have a hole at 157.
Why would you speculate on a message board Todd? Gosh!
A hole and an opportunity.
As someone else mentioned, every PSU team that won had holes. So did we in 2021 and 2020 when we were the best team.
Let's see what these guys can do.
As someone else mentioned, every PSU team that won had holes. So did we in 2021 and 2020 when we were the best team.
Let's see what these guys can do.
These guys have had the time in the rooms to improve their skills and put on the proper LBs so let’s see who takes the spot. unless my memory is totally shot Reyna was nowhere near a full size 157 last season.
If he learns to not put so much damn weight on his lead leg I’d be all about him. He’s a different kinda guy than what we typically see. Not afraid to score points,and he does so in a variety of way, which is exactly what I love watching, but he gets caught flat footed way to often. He can improve that. If he does, watch out.
All that being said, I think he wins 157 this year.
Agree, we’ve seen that all too often that your observation is correct.
I hope he wins the spot as well. Have you spoken to Tommy about the stance issue? I’m not sure it’s even been addressed in the cesspool until now…
He’s real good when his opponents are on his leg, but I don’t disagree. He’s 100% bought in, getting stronger, and very hungry. Can’t wait to watch him compete this year.
They know about it Dub. Watch a few of his matches and it becomes obvious. During U20/U23 you could hear his corner yelling move your feet.
Goblin mentioned that he’s a good scrambler, and he definitely is, but the more time he spends fighting off a shot the less time he spends getting to his own offense.
if he’s gonna scramble I’d rather he does it to finish off his own shot.
That’s what I like to hear. It’s hard not to buy in with Tom and Terry if you love wrestling. When T and T say they are looking for kids that love the mat they’re not kidding. Cobe sounds like one of them. It’s hard to root against kids like him.
He can scramble and handle sitting by a hammered me at a football game…
This should be it’s own thread. It’s off-season and the kid is one of my favorites..
Btw, maybe the guy who runs into Tommy in the ‘hood should bring it up with him the next time they cross paths.
Justin Case.
I think things will shake out after Midlands. One of the many things I like about him is when he puts the boots in. Those kinds of wrestlers are just terrifying on top. I talked to Mark Perry once and I asked him about the rides he put on using the boots. He said it's a hard thing to teach. You either know how to do it or not. And since there aren't many who do it the guy on bottom just doesn't know how to get out. So, in the end, I think he is going to be a hybrid of Perry and Metcalf. if he really is as talented as he looks (and the looks thing - his hair needs a name all of its own.
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