A guide for our new FSU posters: here are the rules of this forum...

[Herkmeister]

This looks like camel canyon

It’s where I want to live.

 

[Herkmeister]

1. This is an Iowa board. We don’t need you pontificating about all things Florida. We don’t need Miami Dolphin threads or Florida State updates. We don’t need your musings on who you hate more, Miami or Florida. If you break this rule, you will kindly be told to STFU, GFY, and GTFO.

But........ we need a free place to stay when we come to Florida.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Uhh, this is only an issue for inbred folks from south of the Mason-Dixon line who have a passing familiarity with literacy.

You know, 'Noles fans.

The rest of us just call this "speaking and writing English." Something Iowans are quite good at.

Says the guy who ends with a preposition

 

[Herkmeister]

Says the guy who ends with a preposition

And @torbee calls himself a professional.

 

[jellyfish10]

But........ we need a free place to stay when we come to Florida.

I would rather stay at “Trad Manor”, which is code for trailer park, than read his posts.

 

[Herkmeister]

I would rather stay at “Trad Manor”, which is code for trailer park, than read his posts.

I’ve done his wife. Trust me, you don’t want to get in that pool.

 

[torbee]

Says the guy who ends with a preposition

Try to keep up with the changes in the language my man. This, from Oxford English Dictionary (the objective arbitrator of proper English):

A prepositional primer
First, a quick recap of the basics:

• A preposition is a word such aswith,by,on,in,at,to, orabout.
• Prepositions are a class of word used to express the relationship between the elements of a sentence or clause.
• A preposition connects a verb, noun, or adjective to a noun or pronoun and is typically, but not always, foundbeforethe noun or pronoun in a sentence or clause. For example:

PAUL RAN ALONG THE STREET.

verb preposition
noun
HE’S ANGRY WITH US.

adjective preposition pronoun

• The noun or pronoun that follows the preposition forms a ‘prepositional object’ (or complement). You should therefore use pronouns in the objective (for instance,me, her, him, us) rather than the subjective form (I, she, he, we).

• The relationship between the preposition and the other elements can describe:
  – time (we’re meeting himonTuesday)
  – the way in which something is done (I went to Milanbytrain)
  – place or position (the cat wasunderthe table;we metatthe station)
  – possession (a friendofmine)
  – purpose (theoperation was doneforthe best of reasons)

Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts…
Some of these groundless rules (termed ‘fetishes’ by Henry Fowler in 1926) have a long history. Back in the 17th and 18th centuries, some notable writers (aka Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts) tried to make English grammar conform to that of Latin – hence the veto on split infinitives as well as the current preposition confusion.

The word ‘preposition’ ultimately derives from Latinprae‘before’ andponere’to place’. In Latin grammar, the rule is that a preposition should alwaysprecedethe prepositional object that it is linked with: it is never placed after it. According to a number of other authorities, it was the dramatist John Dryden in 1672 who was the first person to criticize a piece of English writing (by Ben Jonson) for placing a preposition at the end of a clause instead of before the noun or pronoun to which it was linked.

This prohibition was taken up by grammarians and teachers in the next two centuries and became very tenacious. English is not Latin, however, and contemporary authorities do not try to shoehorn it into the Latin model. Nevertheless, many people are still taught that ending a sentence or clause with a preposition should be avoided.

This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!
Although Ben Zimmer seems to havelaid to rest the myththat the above witticism can be attributed to Winston Churchill, the quote illustrates that trying to avoid a stranded preposition could lead you to get your linguistic knickers in a terrible twist.

In fact, there are four main types of situation in which it is more natural to end a sentence or clause with a preposition:

• passive structures (she enjoys being fussedover)
• relative clauses (they must be convinced of the commitment that they are takingon)
• infinitive structures (Tom had no-one to playwith)
• questions beginning withwho, where, what, etc. (what music are you interestedin?)

Most attempts to avoid stranding or deferring prepositions in the following examples end up sounding over-formal, awkward, or like Yoda inStar Wars:

STRANDED PREPOSITION PREPOSITION BEFORE NOUN OR PRONOUN
Gail has much to be happyabout. Gail has muchaboutwhich to be happy. [over-formal]
Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothing to be frightenedof. Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothingofwhich to be frightened. [over-formal]
The house hadn’t been paidfor, so they had to sell it. Paidforthe house had not been, so they had to sell it. [not good English]
Who were you talkingto? Towhom were you talking? [over-formal]
The tennis match was rainedoff. Rainedoffthe tennis match was. [not good English]
He wondered where she had comefrom. He wonderedfromwhere she had come. [over-formal]
She often said things that were inappropriate, but think of the pressure she wasunder. She often said things that were inappropriate, but she wasundera great deal of pressure. [less emphatic]
To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and end a sentence with a preposition!

 

[The Tradition]

Try to keep up with the changes in the language my man. This, from Oxford English Dictionary (the objective arbitrator of proper English):

A prepositional primer
First, a quick recap of the basics:

• A preposition is a word such aswith,by,on,in,at,to, orabout.
• Prepositions are a class of word used to express the relationship between the elements of a sentence or clause.
• A preposition connects a verb, noun, or adjective to a noun or pronoun and is typically, but not always, foundbeforethe noun or pronoun in a sentence or clause. For example:

PAUL RAN ALONG THE STREET.

verb preposition
noun
HE’S ANGRY WITH US.

adjective preposition pronoun

• The noun or pronoun that follows the preposition forms a ‘prepositional object’ (or complement). You should therefore use pronouns in the objective (for instance,me, her, him, us) rather than the subjective form (I, she, he, we).

• The relationship between the preposition and the other elements can describe:
  – time (we’re meeting himonTuesday)
  – the way in which something is done (I went to Milanbytrain)
  – place or position (the cat wasunderthe table;we metatthe station)
  – possession (a friendofmine)
  – purpose (theoperation was doneforthe best of reasons)

Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts…
Some of these groundless rules (termed ‘fetishes’ by Henry Fowler in 1926) have a long history. Back in the 17th and 18th centuries, some notable writers (aka Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts) tried to make English grammar conform to that of Latin – hence the veto on split infinitives as well as the current preposition confusion.

The word ‘preposition’ ultimately derives from Latinprae‘before’ andponere’to place’. In Latin grammar, the rule is that a preposition should alwaysprecedethe prepositional object that it is linked with: it is never placed after it. According to a number of other authorities, it was the dramatist John Dryden in 1672 who was the first person to criticize a piece of English writing (by Ben Jonson) for placing a preposition at the end of a clause instead of before the noun or pronoun to which it was linked.

This prohibition was taken up by grammarians and teachers in the next two centuries and became very tenacious. English is not Latin, however, and contemporary authorities do not try to shoehorn it into the Latin model. Nevertheless, many people are still taught that ending a sentence or clause with a preposition should be avoided.

This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!
Although Ben Zimmer seems to havelaid to rest the myththat the above witticism can be attributed to Winston Churchill, the quote illustrates that trying to avoid a stranded preposition could lead you to get your linguistic knickers in a terrible twist.

In fact, there are four main types of situation in which it is more natural to end a sentence or clause with a preposition:

• passive structures (she enjoys being fussedover)
• relative clauses (they must be convinced of the commitment that they are takingon)
• infinitive structures (Tom had no-one to playwith)
• questions beginning withwho, where, what, etc. (what music are you interestedin?)

Most attempts to avoid stranding or deferring prepositions in the following examples end up sounding over-formal, awkward, or like Yoda inStar Wars:

STRANDED PREPOSITION PREPOSITION BEFORE NOUN OR PRONOUN
Gail has much to be happyabout. Gail has muchaboutwhich to be happy. [over-formal]
Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothing to be frightenedof. Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothingofwhich to be frightened. [over-formal]
The house hadn’t been paidfor, so they had to sell it. Paidforthe house had not been, so they had to sell it. [not good English]
Who were you talkingto? Towhom were you talking? [over-formal]
The tennis match was rainedoff. Rainedoffthe tennis match was. [not good English]
He wondered where she had comefrom. He wonderedfromwhere she had come. [over-formal]
She often said things that were inappropriate, but think of the pressure she wasunder. She often said things that were inappropriate, but she wasundera great deal of pressure. [less emphatic]
To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and end a sentence with a preposition!

TL;DR

 

[McLovin32]

Rule #69–I always bang the mothers of OPs

 

[torbee]

TL;DR

Short version - the stupid rule was only created by pedants who wanted English grammar to comply with Latin grammar rules. It never made sense and thus does not need to be adhered to.

From the summary: To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences.

 

[Herkmeister]

Try to keep up with the changes in the language my man. This, from Oxford English Dictionary (the objective arbitrator of proper English):

A prepositional primer
First, a quick recap of the basics:

• A preposition is a word such aswith,by,on,in,at,to, orabout.
• Prepositions are a class of word used to express the relationship between the elements of a sentence or clause.
• A preposition connects a verb, noun, or adjective to a noun or pronoun and is typically, but not always, foundbeforethe noun or pronoun in a sentence or clause. For example:

PAUL RAN ALONG THE STREET.

verb preposition
noun
HE’S ANGRY WITH US.

adjective preposition pronoun

• The noun or pronoun that follows the preposition forms a ‘prepositional object’ (or complement). You should therefore use pronouns in the objective (for instance,me, her, him, us) rather than the subjective form (I, she, he, we).

• The relationship between the preposition and the other elements can describe:
  – time (we’re meeting himonTuesday)
  – the way in which something is done (I went to Milanbytrain)
  – place or position (the cat wasunderthe table;we metatthe station)
  – possession (a friendofmine)
  – purpose (theoperation was doneforthe best of reasons)

Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts…
Some of these groundless rules (termed ‘fetishes’ by Henry Fowler in 1926) have a long history. Back in the 17th and 18th centuries, some notable writers (aka Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts) tried to make English grammar conform to that of Latin – hence the veto on split infinitives as well as the current preposition confusion.

The word ‘preposition’ ultimately derives from Latinprae‘before’ andponere’to place’. In Latin grammar, the rule is that a preposition should alwaysprecedethe prepositional object that it is linked with: it is never placed after it. According to a number of other authorities, it was the dramatist John Dryden in 1672 who was the first person to criticize a piece of English writing (by Ben Jonson) for placing a preposition at the end of a clause instead of before the noun or pronoun to which it was linked.

This prohibition was taken up by grammarians and teachers in the next two centuries and became very tenacious. English is not Latin, however, and contemporary authorities do not try to shoehorn it into the Latin model. Nevertheless, many people are still taught that ending a sentence or clause with a preposition should be avoided.

This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!
Although Ben Zimmer seems to havelaid to rest the myththat the above witticism can be attributed to Winston Churchill, the quote illustrates that trying to avoid a stranded preposition could lead you to get your linguistic knickers in a terrible twist.

In fact, there are four main types of situation in which it is more natural to end a sentence or clause with a preposition:

• passive structures (she enjoys being fussedover)
• relative clauses (they must be convinced of the commitment that they are takingon)
• infinitive structures (Tom had no-one to playwith)
• questions beginning withwho, where, what, etc. (what music are you interestedin?)

Most attempts to avoid stranding or deferring prepositions in the following examples end up sounding over-formal, awkward, or like Yoda inStar Wars:

STRANDED PREPOSITION PREPOSITION BEFORE NOUN OR PRONOUN
Gail has much to be happyabout. Gail has muchaboutwhich to be happy. [over-formal]
Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothing to be frightenedof. Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothingofwhich to be frightened. [over-formal]
The house hadn’t been paidfor, so they had to sell it. Paidforthe house had not been, so they had to sell it. [not good English]
Who were you talkingto? Towhom were you talking? [over-formal]
The tennis match was rainedoff. Rainedoffthe tennis match was. [not good English]
He wondered where she had comefrom. He wonderedfromwhere she had come. [over-formal]
She often said things that were inappropriate, but think of the pressure she wasunder. She often said things that were inappropriate, but she wasundera great deal of pressure. [less emphatic]
To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and end a sentence with a preposition!

Son of a bitch I hate change.

 

[The Tradition]

Short version - the stupid rule was only created by pedants who wanted English grammar to comply with Latin grammar rules. It never made sense and thus does not need to be adhered to.

I see what you did there....

 

[southgateNOLE]

Eh, doesn’t sound to bad.

 

[Herkmeister]

Short version - the stupid rule was only created by pedants who wanted English grammar to comply with Latin grammar rules. It never made sense and thus does not need to be adhered to.

From the summary: To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences.

True, many these cumbersome sentences are a point of pride and a way for educated people to let others know they too are educated.

I’m not in this group as my posts indicate.

 

[jellyfish10]

Weren't you nominated for worst poster of the year?

He would have been a slam dunk had OiT not taken his batshit craziness to another level.

 

[IACub]

He would have been a slam dunk had OiT not taken his batshit craziness to another level.

 

[TailgateTom]

I'll be more than happy to go out for Casey's Pizza if they're willing to take a ride out to Nicholson's Farmhouse for the best steak around when they come to Tallahassee.

Where does the beef come from?

 

[Rudolph]

politics are not good here, unless it's certain kinds. then it's fine.

 

[Rudolph]

Where does the beef come from?

Or… from where does the beef come?































Paging @naturalmwa @IMCC965

 

[ping72]

Perfect. Our kinda place.

In fact, evidently they all had my mom last week and she has been dead for 2 years.

It’s a lot easier now that she doesn’t struggle anymore....




...but def less enjoyable.

 

[TexSkills]

Rule #7: Casey's pizza is actually terrible pizza from a gas station. It's a running gag around here to say that it's the best pizza on the planet. Don't fall for it.

I tried that crap in Fargo, ND and it was the epitome of gas station pizza. Worse than the Godfather's Pizza you get in the Speedway stations in Florida.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

Try to keep up with the changes in the language my man. This, from Oxford English Dictionary (the objective arbitrator of proper English):

A prepositional primer
First, a quick recap of the basics:

• A preposition is a word such aswith,by,on,in,at,to, orabout.
• Prepositions are a class of word used to express the relationship between the elements of a sentence or clause.
• A preposition connects a verb, noun, or adjective to a noun or pronoun and is typically, but not always, foundbeforethe noun or pronoun in a sentence or clause. For example:

PAUL RAN ALONG THE STREET.

verb preposition
noun
HE’S ANGRY WITH US.

adjective preposition pronoun

• The noun or pronoun that follows the preposition forms a ‘prepositional object’ (or complement). You should therefore use pronouns in the objective (for instance,me, her, him, us) rather than the subjective form (I, she, he, we).

• The relationship between the preposition and the other elements can describe:
  – time (we’re meeting himonTuesday)
  – the way in which something is done (I went to Milanbytrain)
  – place or position (the cat wasunderthe table;we metatthe station)
  – possession (a friendofmine)
  – purpose (theoperation was doneforthe best of reasons)

Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts…
Some of these groundless rules (termed ‘fetishes’ by Henry Fowler in 1926) have a long history. Back in the 17th and 18th centuries, some notable writers (aka Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts) tried to make English grammar conform to that of Latin – hence the veto on split infinitives as well as the current preposition confusion.

The word ‘preposition’ ultimately derives from Latinprae‘before’ andponere’to place’. In Latin grammar, the rule is that a preposition should alwaysprecedethe prepositional object that it is linked with: it is never placed after it. According to a number of other authorities, it was the dramatist John Dryden in 1672 who was the first person to criticize a piece of English writing (by Ben Jonson) for placing a preposition at the end of a clause instead of before the noun or pronoun to which it was linked.

This prohibition was taken up by grammarians and teachers in the next two centuries and became very tenacious. English is not Latin, however, and contemporary authorities do not try to shoehorn it into the Latin model. Nevertheless, many people are still taught that ending a sentence or clause with a preposition should be avoided.

This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!
Although Ben Zimmer seems to havelaid to rest the myththat the above witticism can be attributed to Winston Churchill, the quote illustrates that trying to avoid a stranded preposition could lead you to get your linguistic knickers in a terrible twist.

In fact, there are four main types of situation in which it is more natural to end a sentence or clause with a preposition:

• passive structures (she enjoys being fussedover)
• relative clauses (they must be convinced of the commitment that they are takingon)
• infinitive structures (Tom had no-one to playwith)
• questions beginning withwho, where, what, etc. (what music are you interestedin?)

Most attempts to avoid stranding or deferring prepositions in the following examples end up sounding over-formal, awkward, or like Yoda inStar Wars:

STRANDED PREPOSITION PREPOSITION BEFORE NOUN OR PRONOUN
Gail has much to be happyabout. Gail has muchaboutwhich to be happy. [over-formal]
Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothing to be frightenedof. Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothingofwhich to be frightened. [over-formal]
The house hadn’t been paidfor, so they had to sell it. Paidforthe house had not been, so they had to sell it. [not good English]
Who were you talkingto? Towhom were you talking? [over-formal]
The tennis match was rainedoff. Rainedoffthe tennis match was. [not good English]
He wondered where she had comefrom. He wonderedfromwhere she had come. [over-formal]
She often said things that were inappropriate, but think of the pressure she wasunder. She often said things that were inappropriate, but she wasundera great deal of pressure. [less emphatic]
To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and end a sentence with a preposition!

Get that crap out of here have you no decency?

 

[torbee]

I tried that crap in Fargo, ND and it was the epitome of gas station pizza. Worse than the Godfather's Pizza you get in the Speedway stations in Florida.

Well see, there's your problem.

Once you get outside of Iowa, and MAYBE far-western Illinois, the quality of Casey's pie is a crapshoot.

If you eat it within state borders, however, it is manna from heaven.

 

[TailgateTom]

Eh, doesn’t sound to bad.

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

Casey's Pizza tastes like shit.

 

[Nole Lou]

Good god how bad was the white knighting?

Haha, you have no freaking idea. Twas insane.

Seemed like nice girls, honestly, but god forbid that for one second you even obliquely referred to these women that got famous for shaking their assets, with comments less befitting than you'd refer to a combination Nobel Prize winner/Olympic athlete/Ghandi combo...down raineth the hellfire.

Mod: "Check out the picks from the Cowgirl Bikini Contest!"

Poster: "Ha, she could ride my stallion!"

Mod: "How dare you talk that way about these professional women, we have a zero tolerance policy!"

Honestly, I think a lot of the WC moderation really got out of hand directly around that scenario.

 

[TJ8869]

Rule #18 (or whatever): Hawkbirch claims to be a woman, even feigning a love of shoes and a moderately disturbing obsession with Christian Kirksey as part of the ruse.

Don’t be fooled. Birch is a dude. A big, hairy, manly dude.

 

[PoopandBoogers]

1. This is an Iowa board. We don’t need you pontificating about all things Florida. We don’t need Miami Dolphin threads or Florida State updates. We don’t need your musings on who you hate more, Miami or Florida. If you break this rule, you will kindly be told to STFU, GFY, and GTFO.

Username doesnt check out.

 

[torbee]

Get that crap out of here have you no decency?

Sorry for trying to make you LEARN Devil!

 

[PoopandBoogers]

I tried that crap in Fargo, ND and it was the epitome of gas station pizza. Worse than the Godfather's Pizza you get in the Speedway stations in Florida.

Meet me at the Onawa Casey's and I'll introduce you to my fists.

 

[Tenacious E]

Speaking of homos:

1) Natural
2) Huey
3) Ciggy
4) Me
5) I'm sure there are others but I actually don't pay close attention

I have been here for years and did not know Ciggy was gay.

 

[Imtotallynottribe]

Try to keep up with the changes in the language my man. This, from Oxford English Dictionary (the objective arbitrator of proper English):

A prepositional primer
First, a quick recap of the basics:

• A preposition is a word such aswith,by,on,in,at,to, orabout.
• Prepositions are a class of word used to express the relationship between the elements of a sentence or clause.
• A preposition connects a verb, noun, or adjective to a noun or pronoun and is typically, but not always, foundbeforethe noun or pronoun in a sentence or clause. For example:

PAUL RAN ALONG THE STREET.

verb preposition
noun
HE’S ANGRY WITH US.

adjective preposition pronoun

• The noun or pronoun that follows the preposition forms a ‘prepositional object’ (or complement). You should therefore use pronouns in the objective (for instance,me, her, him, us) rather than the subjective form (I, she, he, we).

• The relationship between the preposition and the other elements can describe:
  – time (we’re meeting himonTuesday)
  – the way in which something is done (I went to Milanbytrain)
  – place or position (the cat wasunderthe table;we metatthe station)
  – possession (a friendofmine)
  – purpose (theoperation was doneforthe best of reasons)

Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts…
Some of these groundless rules (termed ‘fetishes’ by Henry Fowler in 1926) have a long history. Back in the 17th and 18th centuries, some notable writers (aka Latin-obsessed 17thcentury introverts) tried to make English grammar conform to that of Latin – hence the veto on split infinitives as well as the current preposition confusion.

The word ‘preposition’ ultimately derives from Latinprae‘before’ andponere’to place’. In Latin grammar, the rule is that a preposition should alwaysprecedethe prepositional object that it is linked with: it is never placed after it. According to a number of other authorities, it was the dramatist John Dryden in 1672 who was the first person to criticize a piece of English writing (by Ben Jonson) for placing a preposition at the end of a clause instead of before the noun or pronoun to which it was linked.

This prohibition was taken up by grammarians and teachers in the next two centuries and became very tenacious. English is not Latin, however, and contemporary authorities do not try to shoehorn it into the Latin model. Nevertheless, many people are still taught that ending a sentence or clause with a preposition should be avoided.

This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!
Although Ben Zimmer seems to havelaid to rest the myththat the above witticism can be attributed to Winston Churchill, the quote illustrates that trying to avoid a stranded preposition could lead you to get your linguistic knickers in a terrible twist.

In fact, there are four main types of situation in which it is more natural to end a sentence or clause with a preposition:

• passive structures (she enjoys being fussedover)
• relative clauses (they must be convinced of the commitment that they are takingon)
• infinitive structures (Tom had no-one to playwith)
• questions beginning withwho, where, what, etc. (what music are you interestedin?)

Most attempts to avoid stranding or deferring prepositions in the following examples end up sounding over-formal, awkward, or like Yoda inStar Wars:

STRANDED PREPOSITION PREPOSITION BEFORE NOUN OR PRONOUN
Gail has much to be happyabout. Gail has muchaboutwhich to be happy. [over-formal]
Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothing to be frightenedof. Martin persuaded Lucy that there was nothingofwhich to be frightened. [over-formal]
The house hadn’t been paidfor, so they had to sell it. Paidforthe house had not been, so they had to sell it. [not good English]
Who were you talkingto? Towhom were you talking? [over-formal]
The tennis match was rainedoff. Rainedoffthe tennis match was. [not good English]
He wondered where she had comefrom. He wonderedfromwhere she had come. [over-formal]
She often said things that were inappropriate, but think of the pressure she wasunder. She often said things that were inappropriate, but she wasundera great deal of pressure. [less emphatic]
To sum up, the deferring of prepositions sounds perfectly natural and is part of standard English. Once you start moving the prepositions to their supposed ‘correct’ positions you find yourself with very stilted or even impossible sentences. Well-established and famous writers over the years, such as George Orwell, Anthony Burgess, and Julian Barnes, have been blithely stranding their prepositions to no ill effect: please feel free to go and end a sentence with a preposition!

So the people writing the rules had to change it because people are dumb. Even so-called great writers.

 

[SB_SB]

If some of you haven't experienced the postings from OiT, you're in for a real treat.

 

[Tom Paris]

Another rule, don’t ignore OiT. Get to know him.

Most of them will agree with him...which is what scares me.

 

[BelemNole]

Most of them will agree with him...which is what scares me.

Hey, we banned soup long before you all did. You treat your crazies like pets.

 

[torbee]

Hey, we banned soup long before you all did. You treat your crazies like pets.

OiT is like a dog that got its head slammed in a car door.

He is cute, but he might poop on your floor at any minute.

 

[TailgateTom]

Meet me at the Onawa Casey's and I'll introduce you to my fists.

“PoopandBoogers” seems too low brow for you, Steven. How was the sweet corn haul this year?

 

[TennNole17]

Wasn't there a poster who did MS paint for people's avatars for a bit?
And having one was a status check; like an elite level pokemon card or something?

 

[torbee]

Wasn't there a poster who did MS paint for people's avatars for a bit?
And having one was a status check; like an elite level pokemon card or something?

He's still here. And he still sucks at posting.

 

[The Tradition]

Wasn't there a poster who did MS paint for people's avatars for a bit?
And having one was a status check; like an elite level pokemon card or something?

That's @Moral and if you have one of his avatars it means you're a moron.