A look at Class of 2021 offers per school
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haha,7 games over 11 years is world apart? Thats like a half a game a year. What is worlds apart is Wisconsin
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Wisconsin 112-37
The rest of what you are spouting is nonsense. Nebraska has been sending alot of offers really has only been a Frost strategy. His first class was a transition class and Nebraska redshirted like 24 of 28 players last year. Most of his recruits haven't even seen the field yet.
Riley was abject failure. Most of Rileys highly rated recruits have left the program. That doesnt suddenly mean all highly ranked recruits are bad players or that Frost's highly ranked players will leave.
Congrats on beating USC this year and OSU like 3 years ago now. Iowa still has only won the division once. Not sure on why you wouldnt want better players to break through the ceiling.
Neither has Iowa. 2004? Thats 15 years ago. Is 21 years ago suddenly ancient history and 15 years ago is recent past? They also shared it with a team they lost to in the regular season. So impressive.
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Most schools like Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama and Georgia are only offering the top 300 recruits scholarships, sprinkled in with a few offer to kids outside of the top 300 that fit their system. unlike Nebraska, they're a little more selective with their offers.
You act like Iowa hasn’t tried. Why do you take recruiting services as gospel when it comes to high school players? Do you really think there is a difference between a 5.7-3* and a 5.8-4*? Ask FSU, Texas, USC, etc., how much of a science recruiting rankings are.
Nebraska had three times as many for stars starting in last years game than Iowa. Frost has continued to have four stars on his team but they haven’t developed....yet. There is zero proof that Frost can develope guys.
Until Frost can prove it, Iowa has the higher ceiling going forward. There was no downswing in wins and recruiting rankings keep getting better and better. Especially, with the offensive weapons Iowa is now getting.
On any 1 recruit it isn't gospel, overall on the aggregate it matters. Its not a guarantee of success, but Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, OU, etc arent making the playoff every year by accident.
You need both development and recruiting.You put Nebraska's offensive line recruits at Iowa or Wisconsin the past 10-15 years, I guarantee there are All Americans and All Big Ten performers from the group, but Nebraska has not been developing them. Thats something Frost needs to correct.
But again, I dont see what any of this has to do with offering a lot of players? What is inherently wrong about that? Nebraska recruits nationally. You really think there arent 5 players in California worthy of an Iowa offer? Why does it matter if you send an offer the #1 player in the country if he has 0 interest in you? I dont undersand the logic in how this is somehow bad. You are just limiting yourselves from the player pool available.
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As stated above, it’s about knowing the kid you’re recruiting. Kirk learned from this issue a decade ago. Iowa talks to teachers, janitors, family, etc, to find out the kids character and work ethic. You can’t tell me Nebraska is able to do that throwing offers out to anyone with a good ranking.
The offer starts the relationship, Nebraska offers, if kid is interested they come to campus to visit and they go from there. If Nebraska offers and they dont show any interest, that is usually the end of it right there. The kid may have an "offer" but that doesn't mean they'd even let them commit.
That’s lazy. Why tell a kid he has a full ride scholarship offer if they aren’t going to allow the kid to accept? Would you be ok if they didn’t that with your kid? It cheapens the conversation and what being offered by Nebraska really means. An offer from many other programs means a lot more than an offer from Nebraska.
Most of these guys arent committing on the spot. Nebraska's not offering a borderline scholarship recurit in Omaha. But to get some kids interest in Miami to take a look, they have to offer.
Its the business, you have to build your board. TJ Bollers is probably Nebraska's top OLB recruit, what if he chooses another school 10 months after starting a relationship with Nebraska. Is Nebraska jsut supposed to call a guy up out of the Blue and be like, " You are offered now." Want to come? Thats not gonna work.
Your first paragraph has some sense to it, even though you can gauge a kids interest without offering.
Your second paragraph is hyperbole. Of course you’re not going to go that route. You don’t have tell a kid he has an offer kn the table to continue having a relationship with him.
You seem to be happy with Nebraska's shotgun approach to recruiting and recent results on the field, and their success compared to Iowa the past 12 years.
Iowa fans are happy with our approach to recruiting and the results it has produced on the field. We are equally happy with the state of the Nebraska program.
I guess I don't know why anyone is arguing....but it is pretty funny getting our recruiting approach criticized by a Neb fan - I'm pretty sure everyone can see the irony.
And 1/8th of his first class is gone for sexual related crimes... Hence the argument against offering anyone with a pulse and not put much stock into the type of kid he is. Point and case Mo Washington huge red flag getting kicked out one of a HS. But even on campus time and again after screwing up minor slaps on the wrist which is a whole different story. As for Iowa what’s the point of offering big time recruits from places that we have no realistic chance. Use time and resources more wisely on ones they feel are more feasible.
Difference is Iowa fans weren’t bragging and forecasting greatness once KF was hired unlike husker fans have done for last 3 years here. Let alone after 2 years of losing records and still beating that same drum. Iowa last year won more games than Frost has done in his first 2 years yet here they still are boasting about recruiting yet I never hear any on the field accomplishments to boast about. As for years 3 and 4 for Frost good luck with that schedule in 2021..... Don’t think he can throw the previous regime and those players under the bus by then anymore.
The bowl record is a bit misleading when you count the bowl invite of 2015 when they only won 5 games but fortunately got the Foster Farms invite because lack of .500 teams. Yes, they won their bowl but really? I give Huskers credit for a tie (and that’s generous) Let’s say 2-5-1 not 3-5. Since 2008 Iowa has 6 bowl wins including Rose and Orange bowl appearances.
Do players really find that any different than saying "we'd like to offer you the chance at a possible scholarship offer"??
What exactly are you guys even "offering" when you're not offering a spot on the team?
I also get confused wondering what the hell kind of kid would want to come to a school where the coach constantly talks down on his players and staff, while accepting very little blame himself....
You are living in dream land if you think they are actually recruiting (calls, recruiting visits, in-home visits) those numbers of kids.
Obliviously, thats the entire point. You send the #1 recruit in the nation an offer, he doesn't show any interest, you never talk to him. Thats, that. What harm is done?
Let's say you are looking for a girlfriend. So, you ask 500 girls to be your girlfriend. Okay, 500 is too much so let's bring it down to a realistic level of asking 10 girls. You just ask the hottest girls (nothing wrong with that btw) without getting to know them. The word around school is that you are a just looking for hot girls but don't really care about them.
At Iowa, Kirk will get to know the girls first before offering a date. Sometimes, they might not be the hottest girl, but their character and morals align, which sometimes makes a perfect match!
Man, Frost is so much smarter than any coaches ever. Except he has offers to guys that aren’t ranked top ten in state rankings.
Riley will have more wins than Frost after their first three years. If Riley was an abject failure what will that make Frost?
I personally know of two 2021 recruits who had nebraska offers/interest within hours of tweeting that Iowa was involved with them. One is a commit and the other chose elsewhere.
It was almost comical to watch Nebraska jump into the fray with ZERO knowledge of these kids
It was almost comical to watch Nebraska jump into the fray with ZERO knowledge of these kids
Since Nebraska joined the Big and we had to endure the chest pounding and claims of how the Big West would go through Lincoln by numerous Nebraska fans I have just learned to accept that year after year, Coach after coach Nebraska is going to be offseason champs every year, Sometimes it’s difficult waiting till fall while they pound their chests and let us know that once again they beat us in recruiting rankings, Alas once fall rolls around and it’s put up or shut up time ( Not they shut up, because now losing by 3 means moral victories are now accepted) Iowa is usually winning when it truly matters. I can live with the trade off.
Not sure what you mean, they would take the commitment of every Nebraska player they have offered. They dont offer local guys and slow play them.
I think Iowa fans are just more concerned with winning the west which hasn't happened unless we luck out with no OSU, mich, MSU, Penn St on schedule. Finishing above 40 in recruiting like this yr would help with that. Lack of depth at 1 or 2 positions hurt us bad every yr
Things could get ugly in Lincoln next year. They have Purdue and Cincinnati their first four games and a killer back end schedule. There is a strong possibility they have another losing season.
Lol, that's awfully thoughtful of them. Any idea why do they do it to kids from every other state? Just don't feel they should be treated with the same respect as a local kid? Sure...... makes sense....
Agree - but then why r majority of Nebby fans that come over here to discuss recruiting/future success etc acting as if it’s a foregone conclusion that Ne will be so much better in future?
Again, who says Iowa doesn’t want “better players”? If u slow down and listen, regardless of ranking a player has to fit into Iowa’s culture (hard nosed worker, go to class, etc). I trust Iowa’s recruiting staff much more than Nebby’s.
Sad thing is things don’t get much better in 2021. They play at Oklahoma in non conf. Besides normal games like Wisconsin and Iowa in the division they have to play at Michigan st along with 2 other cross over games with Michigan and Ohio st.
Guess we know why Scotty was crying about not playing the likes of Indiana more often as he did last off season then again he proved that he couldn’t even beat them at home.
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