They may have been loud but it was under 6600 at PSU.
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...-penn-state-game-big-ten-conference/80527980/
Some places sound louder than others.......often discussed already.
Carver enjoys a top twenty in the nation attendance for men's basketball. Not bad.
Carver enjoys a top twenty in the nation attendance for men's basketball. Not bad.
Actual attendance tonight at the barn was probably 9-10k? You get just 5-6k in there and it will be loud. I don't think the crowd played any factor in Maryland's performance. Maryland played like IOWA did last night.
Question: I don't live in Iowa and can't afford to travel back to Iowa City to attend games. Am I allowed to comment on the crowds in Carver compared to crowds at other equal/lesser basketball programs?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I am coming from Des Moines so it is goign to suck getting home at midnight and having to work the next day but it is well worth it. Hopefully a few more agree with me and buy up the remaining few tickets and actually come ready to get loud the whole game and not sit on hands.
Dakich said it the other night about iowa's crowd. Said the Dayton game a few years ago in the NIT was the loudest that arena has ever gotten. I agree because I was there and it was very loud. I have gone to 2 games this year (1 mid week and 1 Sunday) and neither game was very loud. I just don't get it, why fans aren't jumping up and down screaming the entire time? That Dayton game Iowa could of lost it and it wouldn't of mattered, everyone was going nuts the entire game.
This is a never ending conversation about Carver, but something needs to be done. I agree I thought Minny was louder than Carver at least on TV. Minny probably had 6,000 people there and Carver was standing room tickets only. IDK what to do, but Carver needs a face-lift or something. Move some seats around, do something to change the atmosphere.
Agree on the Dayton crowd I was there as well. The IU crowd when they were #1 and we played them late December I think 2012 maybe or 2013 was pretty darn loud as well the whole game I remember my son I had with me covering his ears the whole time.
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The announcers at the Minny game mentioned that they think that some people saw the score at halftime and come over to the barn to see what was going on. That people kind of filtered in as the game went on. Think he was joking or is there some truth to it?
Yes, it was definietly not the usual dead beats there and look at the difference.
Did u watch the game? It was pretty loud, maybe they serve beer? Don't know don't care.
Thanks for your well thought out reply, always good to hear from the youngsters and keyboard bad asses.
It wasn't very loud at all. It wasn't even half full. You could hear the same 3 or 4 guys yelling the entire game plain as day. It took like 5 minutes for them to 'storm the court' after the upset because there wasn't enough people there for a proper court storming.
The students were up and raisin hell, for no better than the team is I thought the crowd was pretty good. Maybe not
Simple solution that seems lost on the U. When it is freezing cold outside, don't ask fans to stand in a two block line for a bus for 20 minutes. This deters many fans from coming and causes many to leave early to get their place in line. You can scream bad fan and complain about the grey hairs, but I have nothing but respect for the senior Hawk fans who with canes, walkers, and bad hips and knees, make the trek to Carver to cheer for the Hawks. They may not yell and scream from start to finish, but they show up. Why not make the fan experience better? It doesn't cost a dime more to have two buses parked waiting for passengers vs. rationing them so fans can stand in the cold.
U of M has a couple million people within an hour drive. Nearly the entire population of the State (5 Million) within 2 hours. Also the vast majority of U of M grads stay in Minneapolis. To me, they are scary as a long term competitor in the arms war of college sports. Lots of cash up there. They have invested heavily in sports infrastructure and are in the middle of a five year plan to continue upgrades. Last year they were number 4 in the Big Ten in sports revenue. They could eventually become a perenial number 3, pressing On Michigan for number 2. All it will take is a slight upgrade of the product on the field/floor, and they are making the investments to do that.
Agree. I get tired of people who continually rip on the so-called "blue hairs" (usually a "Superfan" who only attends a couple of games per year....if any). These are the people who donate religiously, and who have attended games for decades. They were there during the Lick years while Superfan stayed home.
Now that the team is doing better Superfan starts to thump his chest about coming to a game or two and rip on the loyal season ticket holders for not being "good enough" fans. And they sure do have plenty of ideas and suggestions for how other fans should behave, and how "things should be done".
Can we as a crowd be loud whole game these last 2 games please? I know I'm asking a lot, thanks.
You're one of those who repeats others stories from a decade ago.
Yeah Sally Mason killed tailgating at Kinnick can't even hold a beer (read that on the interwebz) now I don't go (once in the last ten years).
You forgot Super fans incredibility stupid mentality that by going to games and donating money during the down years you were reinforcing the program to stay the same. Thus causing Super fan much heart ache and suffering from the couch where he watched the game and reduce his donation from nothing to zilch.
Do you think they just tend to let people in for free at major sporting events?
The students simply don't give a crap about Iowa Basketball anymore. The culture changed in the Lickliter days. It was actually embarrassing to be a student Iowa fan at that time. Back in those days I had nobody to discuss the games with even, because nobody watched, nobody cared, nobody even knew the record. Friends actually ridiculed those of us who went to the games every week. It has carried forward since then. The vast majority of the students still don't care about Basketball, don't even know that games are going on, and certainly don't want to travel to the far end of campus in the winter months. To them, there is no bandwagon to jump on to, because they literally don't know it exists. We need to start shoving it down everyone's throat on campus that the games are going on and that they need to be there. Maybe eventually the culture will change back again.
Heck, you can't even guarantee that the game will be on when you go to a place on campus with TV's. The game could literally be going on RIGHT NOW IN CARVER and they don't know and don't care. Hit up a restaurant in Iowa City some day when a game is going on and there is probably a 50/50 chance the game will be on unless you're at a sports bar. It should be on EVERYWHERE in Iowa City but even the restaurant and bar owners don't give a crap. There should be students running to the bars to watch the game because they weren't able to score tickets to the game. That's how it is at other universities but not here.
Just a few years ago I remember going to the gym during away games and when I got there, I got yelled at for turning the main TV over to the game. I figured surely athletic people who attend Iowa would be interested in watching an Iowa athletic event. Nobody wants to watch it. Even if you gave them free tickets and dropped them off personally at the front door of Carver they may just sell the tickets to make a buck and grab the next cambus. Students don't watch the games at home, they don't watch the games at all. There's no advertising for the games on campus. Very little effort to increase student attendance. Offering free pizza for one or two games a season isn't going to cut it. Free pizza only attracts people who want free food, not people who want to watch the game. Those people won't come back. Same with other promotions like Dance Marathon - do you think any of those students are coming back when the energy in Carver is so poor? You need to build excitement for basketball from DAY ONE on campus, similar to football. There should be a buzz about buying season tickets like there is with football and like there is at other schools. Many schools have to implement a lottery because there is so much demand for tickets. Here it's cake.
I don't claim to know what the solution is, but I can see how it got to be the way it is, and I don't see it improving unless there is a major culture change.
Heck, you can't even guarantee that the game will be on when you go to a place on campus with TV's. The game could literally be going on RIGHT NOW IN CARVER and they don't know and don't care. Hit up a restaurant in Iowa City some day when a game is going on and there is probably a 50/50 chance the game will be on unless you're at a sports bar. It should be on EVERYWHERE in Iowa City but even the restaurant and bar owners don't give a crap. There should be students running to the bars to watch the game because they weren't able to score tickets to the game. That's how it is at other universities but not here.
Just a few years ago I remember going to the gym during away games and when I got there, I got yelled at for turning the main TV over to the game. I figured surely athletic people who attend Iowa would be interested in watching an Iowa athletic event. Nobody wants to watch it. Even if you gave them free tickets and dropped them off personally at the front door of Carver they may just sell the tickets to make a buck and grab the next cambus. Students don't watch the games at home, they don't watch the games at all. There's no advertising for the games on campus. Very little effort to increase student attendance. Offering free pizza for one or two games a season isn't going to cut it. Free pizza only attracts people who want free food, not people who want to watch the game. Those people won't come back. Same with other promotions like Dance Marathon - do you think any of those students are coming back when the energy in Carver is so poor? You need to build excitement for basketball from DAY ONE on campus, similar to football. There should be a buzz about buying season tickets like there is with football and like there is at other schools. Many schools have to implement a lottery because there is so much demand for tickets. Here it's cake.
I don't claim to know what the solution is, but I can see how it got to be the way it is, and I don't see it improving unless there is a major culture change.
Way back when as I turn 60 this year I would go to the Union to watch our away games and we had the whole place cheering like crazy. I specifically went there because it seemed a fun place to watch. Hard for me even to imagine going to a gym to work out and not having the game on but it doesn't surprise me given the current vibe and general state of apathy surrounding basketball.
We often discuss making structural and atmospheric improvements to Carver which it badly needs but very good point made here that we have a culture problem that extends way beyond the tangible things. I can only imagine what students who attended during the Licklifter era felt but I think it extends even beyond some bad coaching hires. People made much fuss when Iowa brought in an an individual with a marketing background to replace Sally Mason but at least on the athletics front we should end up seeing it as a positive change. Athletics play a large role in building a university's brand and recognition which the previous regime ignored and arguably may have had some hostility toward.
The fact that we now have serious discussion about making some renovations to Carver seems a step in the right direction but we need to do more and hope to see more signs of a changing culture.
I bow to your superior intellect, your parents must be very proud.
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