Fair enough, no malice intended. I happen to believe a possible downside to that mindset, though, is the added pressure to win for something other than just yourself. Tougher to wrestle “free” in that mindset, IMO.
Sad existence of a life to come over here and gloat. Congrats on the two pickups through the portal. PSU just widened their gap compared to Iowa and the rest of college wrestling At some point things will change hope you can take the shit talk as well as you give it when that happens.
Well I got you both beat, I’m a Cubs fan and a Vikings fan!!!!🤬😭
I think this is spot on. Recruits want to get better and TnT's recent track record is not flattering to say the least. Marinelli, Kemerer, Warner, Cass, and even Spencer all failed to continue an upward trajectory that resulted in NCAA titles. Time will tell if it continues with Woods and Kennedy. Realistically, what evidence does a top recruit have TODAY to choose TnT and Iowa over others? Those gold medals and world titles only work so long for a coach....results matter.
Is this the same or similar advice to that you gave to the MSU program before following Metcalf and becoming an Iowa supporter?
I wish we could poach a few more wrestlers. Sour grapes is not a good look.
I think you need a response that's only two syllables. And the 2nd syllable should rhyme with 'state.' Might I suggest,
Iowa had their day, was that bad for growing the sport? Wrestling is a niche sport which we love that's not that popular with the general sports crowd.
His beliefs and his decision are his decision. You would think a guy with a handle like you would appreciate his freedom to express himself and make up his own mind.
I can think of something two syllables that I’d like to respond to that, but it definitely doesn’t rhyme with Penn State
It's called negative reinforcement. He isn't able to partake on his own forum so he comes here to get a rise out of people. Pretty basic human behavior - for deviants.
Wow, you have pretty much shed the fake skin of trying to be somewhat friendly on here and have gone FULL DICK MODE.
125 - ?
The plan is Howard at 125. But of course, his health is a going concern.
The depth of 165 might keep them from scoring big there, but I think Mesenbrink is the real deal and will place for them right away. He's already great and wrestles a style that develops well in their system (as opposed to Facundo who's never been an offensive dynamo).
Additional context: PSU went 15/19 over the same span. 3/4 who lost won at least 1 title in their career. The only PSU #1 seed who never won a title was Morgan McIntosh and he lost to an all time great.
Best post I've seen on this board, EVER.
If you are going to use that argument for McIntosh, it’s only fair to do the same for the Iowa guys. Kemerer lost in OT to a guy that could actually be the only 5 timer in history. Eierman lost to a 2xer. Both guys at least had wins over them as well.
With a handle like that he's clearly more likely to appreciate only the freedoms he/she agrees with. All the rest can clearly go to hell...
Okay take away the McIntosh excuse and the point speaks for itself.
Other than recruiting better, and injury prevention this is the other key area that we have to do better in. Winning more individual titles is another thing that goes a long way in dispelling negative perceptions (shocking revelation here). When we have guys capable of winning, they need to WIN. To be clear I'm not knocking the following guys, but these are guys who should have titles in an Iowa singlet, they were all more than good enough - Eierman, Kemerer, Marinelli, Gilman, Woods, Warner. This is where our focus needs to be, and the team accolades will follow.
I edited my post to make sure I covered all 8. Overall, I agree that PSU produces champs at a far better rate. However, they also start with so much more talent on a far more consistent basic. Am I saying Iowa would produce at the same rate? Probably not. But, would the rate increase considerably. I don’t doubt that for one second.
Try being a Mets fan for the past 60 years.
Morgan was more of a 184, but put it out there anyway. And he beat both Cox and Snyder, which is pretty cool.
Excellent take, but I don't think the current staff can do it. If it was me acting as a general manager putting together a team to compete with PSU, I'd start by putting Kyle Dake at the helm. He showed time and again that he could look the lions in the eye and come out victorious.
Idk what point you think you're making.
Because you need to present an actionable solution, not some pie in the sky fantasy of David Taylor. Guess what, between his club, M2 Trained and NLWC pay, plus Living the dream paychecks, David Taylor is more than set financially for life. He has zero incentive to come to Iowa. He can continue helping PSU build their dynasty, stay with his friends and family, compete as long as he wants to, and I'm sure Cael might even have plans to bring him on to PSU staff eventually - hell, he might even be Caels successor when the day comes. Or he can just continue to run his extremely successful club without the stresses of a head coaching position. Ask yourself what reason would David Taylor have to want to build Iowa up to surpass his Alma Mater and mentor? If you think throwing a lot of money at him will change his mind, I think you are sadly mistaken.
Yes he might be a hard draw.
Trust me, I was in no way meaning to besmirch Morgan. He is still probably in my top 5 PSU wrestlers under Cael. He just always seemed very likeable and willing to do whatever it took to help the team!
