About Trump

[Rifler]

If the "overwhelming majority" of conservatives were actually noncommittal on Trump, he wouldn't be the two-time party nominee

Not true,.. In both parties the nominee is typically selected by the rabid base, because the average American voter doesn't have time to involve themselves in the primary process,... This is why candidates typically have to move towards the center for the general election.

 

[LunchBox50]

Incidentally one of those folks you mention was Kamala Harris. She was no more trustworthy with the sudden election-year religion she found with her new positions, either. She's as big a liar as they come. So I guess we couldn't be extremely certain with either lever we pulled?

So the VP not aggressively sh#tting on the POTUS is the same in your eyes a man with a multi-decade history of disgusting conduct, criminal activity, felony convictions, sexual assault, and denying he lost an election and urging people to overrun the Capitol. Am I getting that correct?

 

[LunchBox50]

Not true,.. In both parties the nominee is typically selected by the rabid base, because the average American voter doesn't have time to involve themselves in the primary process,... This is why candidates typically have to move towards the center for the general election.

Your position is "We don't have time to involve ourself with preventing the felon/sexual predator/liar from being the nominee, but we DO have time to elevate him to become leader of the country."

As for 2020: You're telling me it was the "rabid base" and fringe of the Democratic Party that delivered Joe Biden as the nominee?

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

So the VP not aggressively sh#tting on the POTUS is the same in your eyes a man with a multi-decade history of disgusting conduct, criminal activity, felony convictions, sexual assault, and denying he lost an election and urging people to overrun the Capitol. Am I getting that correct?

I'm pretty sure she lied about Joe.

C'mon at least be honest with me and the other readers about that simple fact if you wanna keep relitigating the election.

 

[Rifler]

Your position is "We don't have time to involve ourself with preventing the felon/sexual predator/liar from being the nominee, but we DO have time to elevate him to become leader of the country."

No,.. More like, we DO NOT have time to participate in the selection of a nominee, but we DO have time to vote for removal of the current clown show.

 

[LunchBox50]

I'm pretty sure she lied about Joe.

C'mon at least be honest with me and the other readers about that simple fact if you wanna keep relitigating the election.

Kamala was not honest about an 80-year-old man being slower than he actually was and Biden should have announced he wasn't running again after the 2022 midterms. I will take my position all day over actively supporting a man who had affairs with porn actresses while his third wife was pregnant, has a history of sexual assault, is a convicted felon, and who denies the result of the 2020 election and urged supporters to stop the certification and to overrun the Capitol. We are not the same.

 

[LunchBox50]

No,.. More like, we DO NOT have time to participate in the selection of a nominee, but we DO have time to vote for removal of the current clown show.

Sounds like you and your ilk are incredibly lazy.

As for 2020: You're telling me it was the "rabid base" and fringe of the Democratic Party that delivered Joe Biden as the nominee?

 

[joelbc1]

Sounds like you and your ilk are incredibly lazy.

As for 2020: You're telling me it was the "rabid base" and fringe of the Democratic Party that delivered Joe Biden as the nominee?

Trump delivered the 2020 election to Biden…….America was simply tired of his endless bullshit and lies……They will this time too. As I have stated several times here…..Leopards do NOT change their spots. Trump is a bore.

 

[LunchBox50]

Trump delivered the 2020 election to Biden…….America was simply tired of his endless bullshit and lies……They will this time too. As I have stated several times here…..Leopards do NOT change their spots. Trump is a bore.

BuT hIs PoLiCiEs

 

[joelbc1]

BuT hIs PoLiCiEs

I hope they all pass Congress……every phuquin’ one of them…….there will be a lot of farm land sold at sheriff’s auctions by 2025…..food might be a little more expensive but there will be soup kitchen’s and bread lines to feed most of us……but by golly….we will all be enjoying that extra $100/year income tax cut he gave us!

 

[Tom Paris]

Hey, you better be careful there, or you'll be writing a 15 mil dollar check too .

The lawfare against Trump doesn't reflect well on your side either.

Yet you still voted for Kamala and the "Joe's sharp as a tack" party over Trump.

Go ahead and admit it, you mostly like the Democrats' policies better. No one will fault you for it .

"Lawfare." Lol.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Was Trump convicted of rape or accused of rape?

It gets tossed around a lot like its fact.

 

[LunchBox50]

Was Trump convicted of rape or accused of rape?

It gets tossed around a lot like its fact.

Accused of rape by an ex-wife and EJC; found liable for sexual assault in case with EJC and damages were awarded to her.

 

[Crafty Beaver]

Sorry Finance…. Donald Trump is still everything my parents raised me not to be. He is a real POS human being and represents about 80% of what is wrong with the human race today. His greed and love of money are examples of what our Lord, Jesus Christ warned us about during His life. And yet this miserable sumbitch tries to profit from His work. Trump is a wrech.

The red lines underneath the word mean you haven't spelled it correctly. They even suggest the correct spelling for you.

Hope this helps.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

Kamala was not honest about an 80-year-old man being slower than he actually was and Biden should have announced he wasn't running again after the 2022 midterms. I will take my position all day over actively supporting a man who had affairs with porn actresses while his third wife is pregnant, has a history of sexual assault, is a convicted felon, and who denies the result of the 2020 election and urged supporters to stop the certification and to overrun the Capitol. We are not the same.

We are not same, but I don't hate you either. Not sure the majority of folks here could say the same about me right now, lol.

Anyway, I think there are lot of loathsome people in both parties. Trump's personal life and business dealings have often been very stinky.
But he ran the show previously for 4 years and I want more of that. That's all.

Incidentally, rather than typing all of your Trump grievances every post, ya'll should just come up with an acronym for brevity. Be easier for you

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Accused of rape by an ex-wife and EJC; found liable for sexual assault in case with EJC and damages were awarded to her.

Wasn’t Clinton accused of rape?

Seems to me Trump has done enough bad stuff without exaggerating other things. Kind of plays into the whole fake news narrative.

 

[LunchBox50]

Wasn’t Clinton accused of rape?

Seems to me Trump has done enough bad stuff without exaggerating other things. Kind of plays into the whole fake news narrative.

I didn't vote for Bill Clinton and I'm not a white knight for him today like the Trump fans around here.

Please tell us how you would like Trump's legal issues with sexual assault/rape to be discussed here so as not to offend supporters like yourself from classifying it as fake news.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

I guess you missed the rest of my post where I said those other tools only comment on political posts. Northern will actually comment on Iowa games. I hope this helps, though maybe you’ll come back to quoting another 1/4 of my post.

Northern is a cum dumpster Gopher Bottom who sympathizes with PJ Fleck over the fair catch. I hope he has a dead battery the next time he has a job interview.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

No,.. More like, we DO NOT have time to participate in the selection of a nominee, but we DO have time to vote for removal of the current clown show.

That dog don't hunt.

 

[LunchBox50]

Incidentally, rather than typing all of your Trump grievances every post, ya'll should just come up with an acronym for brevity. Be easier for you

These are not grievances, they are reality. Trump was found liable of sexual assault. He has been accused of rape by multiple women. He paid off a porn actress to silence her after having an affair while his third wife was pregnant with his child. He was convicted of several felonies. He continues to deny the result of the 2020 election. He has a history of bad business dealings and shady actions. He urged his supporters to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6 and they attacked it and deaths resulted from it. These things don't bother you and you dismiss them as "grievances" because you like the policies.

 

[ThorneStockton]

These are not grievances, they are reality. Trump was found liable of sexual assault. He has been accused of rape by multiple women. He paid off a porn actress to silence her after having an affair while his third wife was pregnant with his child. He was convicted of several felonies. He continues to deny the result of the 2020 election. He has a history of bad business dealings and shady actions. He urged his supporters to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6 and they attacked it and deaths resulted from it. These things don't bother you and you dismiss them as "grievances" because you like the policies.

I appreciate your effort, but you realize the posters you're going and back and forth with are goners right?

You're unlikely to get them even close to a shared/common understanding of reality, the reality of the underlying facts and circumstances, they've got their own. If you can't even get there, there'll never be any sort of thoughtful reflection or consideration, no sober take.

 

[Tom Paris]

We are not same, but I don't hate you either. Not sure the majority of folks here could say the same about me right now, lol.

Anyway, I think there are lot of loathsome people in both parties. Trump's personal life and business dealings have often been very stinky.
But he ran the show previously for 4 years and I want more of that. That's all.

Incidentally, rather than typing all of your Trump grievances every post, ya'll should just come up with an acronym for brevity. Be easier for you

Both sides!!!

 

[LunchBox50]

I appreciate your effort, but you realize the posters you're going and back and forth with are goners right?

You're unlikely to get them even close to a shared/common understanding of reality, the reality of the underlying facts and circumstances, they've got their own. If you can't even get there, there'll never be any sort of thoughtful reflection or consideration, no sober take.

You're not wrong.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Two bold-faced lies there Rico. And the third is at best a half-truth. Broad brush strokes there Sonny.

Nope all of it truth.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Yup. All she had to do was articulate new/revised positions on all that stuff and she would have improved herself.

She went wishy washy

She tried to do the moonwalk on many issues, but few people believed the cokehead was really sincere.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

These are not grievances, they are reality. Trump was found liable of sexual assault. He has been accused of rape by multiple women. He paid off a porn actress to silence her after having an affair while his third wife was pregnant with his child. He was convicted of several felonies. He continues to deny the result of the 2020 election. He urged his supporters to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6 and they attacked it and deaths resulted from it. These things don't bother you and you dismiss them as "grievances" because you like the policies.

Again, an acronym would really save you guys a bunch of time.

But holy crap, there you guys go again mischaracterizing a person's intent. Earlier in the post I said many of his actions have been very "stinky." Wrong. Not defensible. Inappropriate ...

As the OP said Trump's in office now. Let's talk about the direction of the country now instead of the constant relitigations and recriminations as he also suggested. But you seem still intent on making me and half country bad people.

It doesn't have to be so negative and hateful is all I, and I think the OP, are saying. Peace.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

Both sides!!!

yep

 

[onlyTheObvious]

I didn't vote for Bill Clinton and I'm not a white knight for him today like the Trump fans around here.

Please tell us how you would like Trump's legal issues with sexual assault/rape to be discussed here so as not to offend supporters like yourself from classifying it as fake news.

How about accused of rape?
Isn’t that bad enough?

 

[LunchBox50]

How about accused of rape?
Isn’t that bad enough?

You got it, buddy.

ATTENTION RESIDENT LIBS/MARXISTS/LEFTISTS/SOCIALISTS: From now on, we will be referring to Donald J. Trump as "accused rapist found liable of sexual assault" instead of simply saying "rapist," so as not to offend a segment of his supporters or create confusion and mistrust. Plan accordingly.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

You got it, buddy.

ATTENTION RESIDENT LIBS/MARXISTS/LEFTISTS/SOCIALISTS: From now on, we will be referring to Donald J. Trump as "accused rapist found liable of sexual assault" instead of simply saying "rapist," so as not to offend a segment of his supporters or create confusion and mistrust. Plan accordingly.

Shouldn't your anger be focused on Biden voters that turned their back on Harris. That’s why she lost.

MAGA was never ever voting for Harris. The anger should be at those that voted Dem just 4 years ago.

My guess is many don’t want to. They refuse to acknowledge the multiple dumbass positions that turned off just enough former Democrat voters to cost them an election to a felon accused rapist massive liar.

It’s like how the F did they lose to this guy? They did because of former Biden voters. What happened to them in four years to not vote or say “ yup, he was better”.

 

[Ree4]

BuT hIs ConCePTs oF PoLiCiEs

FIFY

 

[LunchBox50]

Shouldn't your anger be focused on Biden voters that turned their back on Harris. That’s why she lost.

MAGA was never ever voting for Harris. The anger should be at those that voted Dem just 4 years ago.

My guess is many don’t want to. They refuse to acknowledge the multiple dumbass positions that turned off just enough former Democrat voters to cost them an election to a felon accused rapist massive liar.

It’s like how the F did they lose to this guy? They did because of former Biden voters. What happened to them in four years to not vote or say “ yup, he was better”.

So you put the blame for Trump being POTUS squarely on the shoulders of Democrats?

 

[onlyTheObvious]

So you put the blame for Trump being POTUS squarely on the shoulders of Democrats?

Yup. Easiest guy ever to beat and F’d it up.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Shouldn't your anger be focused on Biden voters that turned their back on Harris. That’s why she lost.

MAGA was never ever voting for Harris. The anger should be at those that voted Dem just 4 years ago.

My guess is many don’t want to. They refuse to acknowledge the multiple dumbass positions that turned off just enough former Democrat voters to cost them an election to a felon accused rapist massive liar.

It’s like how the F did they lose to this guy? They did because of former Biden voters. What happened to them in four years to not vote or say “ yup, he was better”.

Holy sh!t that's a lot of twists and turns to absolve the people that actually voted for the guy.

What is the point of this besides delusion?

 

[Moral]

Pretty cringe OP. Not gonna lie.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Holy sh!t that's a lot of twists and turns to absolve the people that actually voted for the guy.

What is the point of this besides delusion?

I didn’t vote for him.

If Iowa lost to Coe in football would you blame Coe or Iowa?

Democrats just couldny get out of their own way. Open border for years, sex changes for prisoners, men playing against women, puberty blocks for the mentally ill.

All it took was to defuse these issues and Harris wins walking away. Instead they died on those pathetic hills. Democrats turned off much of their own base. And lost. The math is out there.

 

[Ree4]

Shouldn't your anger be focused on Biden voters that turned their back on Harris. That’s why she lost.

MAGA was never ever voting for Harris. The anger should be at those that voted Dem just 4 years ago.

My guess is many don’t want to. They refuse to acknowledge the multiple dumbass positions that turned off just enough former Democrat voters to cost them an election to a felon accused rapist massive liar.

It’s like how the F did they lose to this guy? They did because of former Biden voters. What happened to them in four years to not vote or say “ yup, he was better”.

Biden voters don't owe their votes to Harris, they aren't in a cult like Maga folks. In most political parties, candidates have to earn votes and Harris was more interested in "reaching across the aisle" to appeal to the make believe moderate Republican who were never going to vote for her.

There was absolutely no hint of progressivism in Kamala's policies, only a platform of "not Trump." Her campaign was more interested in maintaining the status quo than it was improving the lives of working Americans. Trump, while completely devoid of policy with any meaningful substance, at least appealed to rural working class people through bigotry and demonization of immigrants and trans folks, a strategy that clearly paid off.

 

[Moral]

I didn’t vote for him.

If Iowa lost to Coe in football would you blame Coe or Iowa?

Democrats just couldny get out of their own way. Open border for years, sex changes for prisoners, men playing against women, puberty blocks for the mentally ill.

All it took was to defuse these issues and Harris wins walking away. Instead they died on those pathetic hills. Democrats turned off much of their own base. And lost. The math is out there.

All it took was like not having open borders and stopping trans related stuff. Damn, we really messed up not doing those things.

Meanwhile in reality town if the Democrats came to "the right" on those then the goal posts would have just moved. Those issues exist as much as they do because dividing is the right wings strongest tool.

 

[ThorneStockton]

All it took was like not having open borders and stopping trans related stuff. Damn, we really messed up not doing those things.

Meanwhile in reality town if the Democrats came to "the right" on those then the goal posts would have just moved. Those issues exist as much as they do because dividing is the right wings strongest tool.

Yeah sure, but would you blame Coe voters or Iowa voters? That's the question insightful people are asking.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

Pretty cringe OP. Not gonna lie.

Don'tcha worry, @Finance85 ... your likes/loves are running 20 - 4 ahead!

Was it his admonition to both sides to behave better you found so cringey, Moral?