Academic whom Claudine Gay plagiarized calls for Harvard leader's firing: Need to get 'back towards sanity'
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Can someone explain to me why people in this thread give a shit about plagiarism at Harvard?
Because plagiarism is wrong. Let’s start there.
Because the President of what was once Americas most prestigious university plagiarized parts of her doctoral thesis which means she is completely unqualified and undeserving of her job.
Because other people who plagiarize are treated differently than said Harvard president, who seems to be getting a pass for one the worst offenses in academia.
How many other people are given the chance to go back and update their thesis and change it when they get caught with no ramifications?
Why does academic fraud matter when it comes to the anti-Semitic president of Harvard?!?!
Look over there! Trump!
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Oh, you never updated your doctoral thesis 25 years later when your plagiarism was exposed?
Where did you go to college?
@lucas80
Oh, I see. No one here should give a shit.
You fear me. You blocked me because you fear me and because you're one of the retards who think people can be born in the "wrong body."
You're the kind of dipshit who thinks Deepak Chopra is a deep thinker and Myers-Briggs is solid science. Which is exactly what the retarded doctors who post here believe.
I fully agree with everything in this post.
I'm looking forward to your future posts in which you apply similar standards and reasoning in assessing the fitness political figures to hold office.
I've seen enough. Turns out all these ivy league schools are patronage scams where opportunists finds different ways to abuse and defame the reputation of those places. Time to absorb them in their respective state public college & university systems.
Do you guys think they just fire a university president overnight? Wouldn’t you think there are contract issues, due process considerations, committees to review plagiarism claims and the specific text at issue, etc., etc.?
Now, they may end up keeping her. Who knows. But either way, the decision isn’t one an institution takes lightly and without laying the groundwork.
Yeah, guys! This broad just cheated her way to a PhD. Doesn't e'rybody? Or is this an indication of a much bigger problem in higher ed?
No?
OK, then. Let's just ignore it and move on.
Or that time biden was forced to drop out of a presidential race for repeatedly plagiarizing his speeches.
So much butt hurt in this thread. The mouthy black lady at the school a bunch of posters never could have gotten into gave you all the sads.
Carol Swain grew up in a shack without running water with 11 brothers and sisters. She was much feted in academia upon her emergence but quickly engaged in heterodoxies that got her blackballed and went on to become an evangelical Christian and a Trump supporter. That's why her outraged demands for accountability for Claudine Gay stealing her work carry no weight with anyone that matters. She lacked the implicit knowledge of how to stay within the right-thinking consensus that Gay learned at Exeter and therefore became a pariah while Gay made a rapid ascent to the very pinnacle of all academic leadership.
Roland Fryer was abandoned by his mother early and his abusive father was convicted for rape, leaving him to fend for himself in the streets as a teenager. He righted himself and became the youngest tenured professor in the history of Harvard University, a favorite of the then-President of Harvard Lawrence Summers, and one of the most productive scholars at Harvard University, studying subjects seeking to find ways to ameliorate the condition of the black underclass.
Soon after publishing a study demonstrating that police officers were slightly more likely to shoot white suspects than black subjects, he became the subject of a sexual harassment investigation. He ended up suspended for a year and the lab where he studied ways to ameliorate the condition of the black underclass was shuttered -- despite the fact that the female best friend of his accuser told investigators and went on the record with the press that his accuser was typically the instigator of the sexualized banter that occurred in Fryer's lab.
The dean of Harvard College who delivered this punishment was -- Claudine Gay.
Gay is the scioness of one of Haiti's wealthiest families and a graduate of Exeter. She obtained tenure at Stanford on the strength of four published papers, and was poached by Harvard. She has gone on to publish a total of eleven research papers and no books -- a record that a professor told me was easily in the bottom 5th percentile of all professors employed at peer institutions. Seven of those papers have been shown to have violated Harvard's rules on academic citation.
All of these professors are beneficiaries of affirmative action -- Swain and Fryer overcame great adversity and disadvantage to do high level academic work that was generally regarded as of the first rank by their peers. They fulfilled the promise of that policy by taking opportunities granted to them on the basis of considerations beyond the strictly academic, given the diminished opportunities available to them in youth.
Gay is a child of privilege who learned how to play the game among other elites -- she stole from Swain and shut down Fryer on her path to the presidency.
*Two corrections: Fryer was one of the youngest to receive tenure at Harvard at the age of 28, but not as he youngest ever. (Someone got it at 26.) Gay was the dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, not Harvard College
I pointed out some hypocrisy, and had a chuckle at all the people faux raged over an issue that Harvard educated Elise Stefanik created. It seems like Harvard and their alumni are handing the rest.
Elise Stefanik forced the anti-Semitic President of Harvard to plagiarize multiple times years ago? Interesting analysis.
Do we have any good analogs to this situation with Gay? How were other university presidents or high ranking officials handled when plagiarism was found?
You didn't know who the president of Harvard was a week ago. You don't think the plagiarism attack wasn't loaded up and ready to go for this faux rage? The whole thing has been a scam. Stefanik coordinated to hold a sham hearing with some easily identified targets for Fox, then she asked a convoluted question that tripped up overly cautious academics seeking to give an answer that would say nothing and offend no-one.
Then she sat back and let the gullible rubes fap themselves blind over it. Congrats, you guys on Team Red bagged yourselves a Lib. Meanwhile, you don't care one bit about plagiarism in general.
I've said before, Harvard and their alumni, board will handle this. If they don't like Gay, they'll part ways. It is hilarious watching hyper partisan people acting like trained seals as Fox tosses you your treats. Stefanik needed to change the programming, so she went out and created some content.
You, Coffland14, Northern, and the rest of the bOth SIdEs posters accepting their treats from Fox.
YOU GOT THE LIB!! You didn't know who she was a week ago, or know dick squat about her career and qualifications. But, YOU GOT THE LIB!!
You think people were really lying in wait for the faux Harvard president?
The problem with saying stupid shit is that it shines the spotlight on you.
The outrage is real, it’s @lucas80 and his U president that are faux.
Lucas did the President of Harvard plagiarize or not? It really isn’t a difficult question.
I’m sure she appreciates you going to bat for her academic dishonesty. All in the name of Team Blue!!!
Nothing triggers you guys more than a smart woman of color. It just jostles your jimmies. Well, woman of color and big cities you've never been to.
Did Melania Trump plagiarize Michelle Obama, or not? It really isn't a difficult question. Oh, but that is okay in your mind. The prejudice of low expectations for Melania.
Like I said. You seem really butt hurt about this whole thing.
You, Coffland14, Northern, and the rest of the bOth SIdEs posters accepting their treats from Fox.
YOU GOT THE LIB!! You didn't know who she was a week ago, or know dick squat about her career and qualifications. But, YOU GOT THE LIB!!
Melania should be barred from ever being president of an Ivy League school. This isn’t difficult. It’s like when you say Hunter shouldn’t hold office. I totally agree. Apparently you are fine when a bizarre Harvard president plagiarizes since a past First Lady did.
To the point where he’s even going against his pet peeve and using whataboutisms.
Yikes. Can’t believe this is the comeback,
Yes Melania plagiarized Michelle’s speech.
So once again did the President of Harvard plagiarize multiple times in the past? It is a simple yes or no answer.
