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Aidan Shaw Taking Official Visit to Iowa on June 22

Some examples of posters calling Fran a "lazy recruiter:"
Creighton has the number 6 rated class with 4 star recruits and they lost a 4 star that decommitted after the McDermott fiasco. Creighton does not have a football program and is difficult academically and the campus is nowhere near as nice as Iowa City. Given all of that - still #6 rated class
 
Creighton has the number 6 rated class with 4 star recruits and they lost a 4 star that decommitted after the McDermott fiasco. Creighton does not have a football program and is difficult academically and the campus is nowhere near as nice as Iowa City. Given all of that - still #6 rated class
How is this related? Creighton has a good year means McC is lazy? I don't see the connection
 
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Obviously that's the first step but I don't think he gets much credit for getting a bunch of highly rated kids on campus and whiffing on all of them.
Fran and Iowa just beat these teams for 4* PG Dasonte Bowen: USC Maryland Boston College Northwestern Virginia Tech Penn State Miami Georgetown Seton Hall Rutgers Rhode Island Massachusetts Impressive..

SO......top 100 PG...highly recruited....did not whiff after getting a visit.

Can you give Fran some credit for recruiting now?
 
Fran and Iowa just beat these teams for 4* PG Dasonte Bowen: USC Maryland Boston College Northwestern Virginia Tech Penn State Miami Georgetown Seton Hall Rutgers Rhode Island Massachusetts Impressive..

SO......top 100 PG...highly recruited....did not whiff after getting a visit.

Can you give Fran some credit for recruiting now?

Already did in the Bowen commit thread. Like I said, happy to be wrong that Fran landed one of his top targets.

One correction, he isn't a top 100 recruit according to Rivals.
 
Already did in the Bowen commit thread. Like I said, happy to be wrong that Fran landed one of his top targets.

One correction, he isn't a top 100 recruit according to Rivals.

Yes....you were wrong. That in and of itself is not the issue....these are all just guesses until they happen.

For me, it is the approach in an almost demanding/arrogant way that Fran can't recruit and land these highly rated out of state recruits....that cultivates the reactions....he whiff's on everyone of them!

This coach works his ass off in recruiting...he competes against schools with more advantages. He does not bend to cheating like many that he competes against go with....and he only recruits guys who he believes are good students and will represent the U of I and the state well.....and it's so easy to criticize.

I don't mind people making mistakes or being wrong.....I've done my share of it.
 
Yes....you were wrong. That in and of itself is not the issue....these are all just guesses until they happen.

For me, it is the approach in an almost demanding/arrogant way that Fran can't recruit and land these highly rated out of state recruits....that cultivates the reactions....he whiff's on everyone of them!

This coach works his ass off in recruiting...he competes against schools with more advantages. He does not bend to cheating like many that he competes against go with....and he only recruits guys who he believes are good students and will represent the U of I and the state well.....and it's so easy to criticize.

I don't mind people making mistakes or being wrong.....I've done my share of it.

I never once said he doesnt recruit hard or that he should stop pursuing highly rated kids. I'm happy to see his persistence paid off with Bowen and think it's a great start to the '22 class.
 
Creighton has the number 6 rated class with 4 star recruits and they lost a 4 star that decommitted after the McDermott fiasco. Creighton does not have a football program and is difficult academically and the campus is nowhere near as nice as Iowa City. Given all of that - still #6 rated class
Do you know Creighton was one of the schools caught on tape offering money to a recruit? Please.
 
He recruited the National player of the year and had him for 4 years. That is great recruiting no matter how you slice it. Come on!

Thats more of a testament to his ability to develop kids. Garza was a good recruit but he wasnt the NPOY coming out of HS.
 
Thats more of a testament to his ability to develop kids. Garza was a good recruit but he wasnt the NPOY coming out of HS.
Sorry but if you recruit a kid who later develops into the national player of the year while others passed on him because he was too slow, that is the very essence of a good recruiting job. Great evaluation, great salesmanship and great development. I don't honestly see what more you would want. I guess Calipari is a great recruiter because UK boosters buy him any player he wants. Not in my book.
 
I never once said he doesnt recruit hard or that he should stop pursuing highly rated kids. I'm happy to see his persistence paid off with Bowen and think it's a great start to the '22 class.
You demeaned his efforts by trashing him in a negative arrogant way....try a tract like, "I hope he gets this one, it's been a real challenge landing these highly ranked out of state kids." Instead it's the dismissal of his efforts and his ethics...because according to your statements they don't matter if you don't land that highly rated kid....not your words, but exactly what it said.
 
Aidan Shaw was asked what made him decide to visit Iowa and Aidan's response was:

"These last couple of weeks they've really been hitting my phone hard and when a college shows interest thats a good thing. I've watched some of them when they were playing during the season but I haven't really studied them so I want to see what they are about."
https://247sports.com/Article/Pango...a-Maryland-Missouri-Oklahoma-State-166233987/
 
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You think getting kids to visit means Fran is a good recruiter?
Yes to a certain extent. Means even more when he offers them earlier than most then they end up at a higher profile program. He can do all he wants within the rules, however, Iowa isn’t a destination school for most. And that’s not on Fran. The recruits make the final decision not Fran.
 
Yes to a certain extent. Means even more when he offers them earlier than most then they end up at a higher profile program. He can do all he wants within the rules, however, Iowa isn’t a destination school for most. And that’s not on Fran. The recruits make the final decision not Fran.

We're just Iowa. That's the national attitude. We really have zero risk on bad citizens. We have shitty weather. IC is a small town. We don't engage in the academic shenanigans that many schools do.

Again, this signing today is great. The highest ranked point guard of the McC era.
 
Yes to a certain extent. Means even more when he offers them earlier than most then they end up at a higher profile program. He can do all he wants within the rules, however, Iowa isn’t a destination school for most. And that’s not on Fran. The recruits make the final decision not Fran.
What makes McC unique is that he doesn't offer very many players early - he is very selective - and his success at identifying talent early on is pretty damn good. He doesn't always get the kids to come here but he often identifies them before other coaches do and before they are ranked highly. This staff really does their due diligence.
 
Was not meant to be a serious comment about Iowa recruiting or you. Mostly, a jab at the programs who seem to "steal" recruits that Fran was in on from early in their recruiting. A big part of why I like Iowa sports is the lack of dishonesty, cutting corners, and under-the-table stuff, which you see in many of the other
No problem. And although it gets tougher every day, I still have some faith in college athletics and don't believe every five star athlete (or their family) has their hands out looking for a payday in exchange for a commitment.
 
No problem. And although it gets tougher every day, I still have some faith in college athletics and don't believe every five star athlete (or their family) has their hands out looking for a payday in exchange for a commitment.
It could be recruiting envy that creates some of the payday rumors, but if you are consistently landing Top 30 players, and finishing with highly ranked classes, and some of your competitors are known to give out cash, then how do you bring in those top players without the same incentives? I do think only a small % of HS recruits get paid.
 
This was not a signing. It was a verbal commitment which is not binding. Hopefully when the big boys who are lacking in scruples start sniffing around after Bowen blows up this summer he keeps his commitment

The good thing is decommits are so much less common in basketball than they are in football.
 
This was not a signing. It was a verbal commitment which is not binding. Hopefully when the big boys who are lacking in scruples start sniffing around after Bowen blows up this summer he keeps his commitment
With the rise of the transfer portal, and with penalties for transfers lifted, are signed LOIs even binding anymore?
 
With the rise of the transfer portal, and with penalties for transfers lifted, are signed LOIs even binding anymore?

School has to let them out. Not sure on this but I don't think they can enter the portal until they are enrolled in classes.

ISU signed a kid a few years back that asked out of his LOI sometime in late May or early June and they released him.
 
School has to let them out. Not sure on this but I don't think they can enter the portal until they are enrolled in classes.

ISU signed a kid a few years back that asked out of his LOI sometime in late May or early June and they released him.
I believe you are probably correct. That said, with the trend going the way it is, I suspect it will only be a matter of time before the LOI holds much less meaning.
 
I believe you are probably correct. That said, with the trend going the way it is, I suspect it will only be a matter of time before the LOI holds much less meaning.

Yep

If a signed kid wants out, any coach will let him out. Too much bad PR that will be used against that coach if he doesn't do it.
 
He would be fun to watch in our system. The guy is a gazelle and can get up and down the court. Stud on defense. I'll be honest, I can't even remember when we had a 6-8 athlete like him. Can someone remind me?
 
Do you know Creighton was one of the schools caught on tape offering money to a recruit? Please.
You can't be serious. For real - it was an assistant trying to impress by linking to a sports agent so he could send players his way when they need an agent. The coach was sent packing and Creighton barely got a slap on the hand. McDermott and Creighton's AD are about as ethical as they come. Now his statement scandal is a whole different issue. However he still pulled in the 6th best recruiting class. If you think Iowa is pristine that's fine but recruiting is a dirty game and they all get away with something.
 
You can't be serious. For real - it was an assistant trying to impress by linking to a sports agent so he could send players his way when they need an agent. The coach was sent packing and Creighton barely got a slap on the hand. McDermott and Creighton's AD are about as ethical as they come. Now his statement scandal is a whole different issue. However he still pulled in the 6th best recruiting class. If you think Iowa is pristine that's fine but recruiting is a dirty game and they all get away with something.
Sorry but head coaches making racist statements and coaches offering improper benefits means that is a dirty school. Explain it away all you want. I am sure every kid grows up dreaming of playing in Omaha and that's why they go to school at Creighton.........McDermott cannot be called an ethical coach by anyone. Except you of course.
 
Sorry but head coaches making racist statements and coaches offering improper benefits means that is a dirty school. Explain it away all you want. I am sure every kid grows up dreaming of playing in Omaha and that's why they go to school at Creighton.........McDermott cannot be called an ethical coach by anyone. Except you of course.
First and foremost I'm a Hawkeye fan and 2nd You are clueless and your statement makes no sense and is baseless. Prove it - If what you say is true Creighton would have been punished by the NCAA. 3rd you basically just said a certain head football coach and his program are DIRTY and unethical for racist issues. I believe you might be able to figure out who that may be. Every power 5 conference team also has boosters and business support of they're programs and with it big money. There are ways to get around NCAA regulations. I was a recruited athlete and my son was a D1 recruit.
 
First and foremost I'm a Hawkeye fan and 2nd You are clueless and your statement makes no sense and is baseless. Prove it - If what you say is true Creighton would have been punished by the NCAA. 3rd you basically just said a certain head football coach and his program are DIRTY and unethical for racist issues. I believe you might be able to figure out who that may be. Every power 5 conference team also has boosters and business support of they're programs and with it big money. There are ways to get around NCAA regulations. I was a recruited athlete and my son was a D1 recruit.
It can’t be proven because it’s all hearsay and Bowen didn’t actually attend Creighton so nothing illegal (to our knowledge) was done. But I know a few people quite close with the Creighton basketball program who say that the program was fully prepared to provide Bowen with illegal benefits including off-campus housing and cash iirc. People who are both diehard Creighton fans and former athletes that would have nothing to gain from acknowledging something like that… Not to mention that Bowen’s dad testified under oath that Creighton made a cash offer of 100k for Bowen to play there

Their ridiculous recruiting class this year, especially in the wake of comments made by a coach that would seemingly be a turn-off to prospective players corroborates these past accounts to me
 
It can’t be proven because it’s all hearsay and Bowen didn’t actually attend Creighton so nothing illegal (to our knowledge) was done. But I know a few people quite close with the Creighton basketball program who say that the program was fully prepared to provide Bowen with illegal benefits including off-campus housing and cash iirc. People who are both diehard Creighton fans and former athletes that would have nothing to gain from acknowledging something like that… Not to mention that Bowen’s dad testified under oath that Creighton made a cash offer of 100k for Bowen to play there

Their ridiculous recruiting class this year, especially in the wake of comments made by a coach that would seemingly be a turn-off to prospective players corroborates these past accounts to me
I never judge people on hearsay. I have met Coach McDermott and none of those accusations were of him personally. As for the Bowens they are pretty much dirtbags that made unproven accusations against several "name" basketball programs. Do you think any D1 coach can control everything around them? Between assistant coaches wanting to impress and overzealous boosters that think they are doing good by offering jobs or money, anything can happen. Again... provide the sanctions that were handed down and proof not hearsay. Then you accuse them of violations for having a great recruiting class. Ridiculous!
 
I never judge people on hearsay. I have met Coach McDermott and none of those accusations were of him personally. As for the Bowens they are pretty much dirtbags that made unproven accusations against several "name" basketball programs. Do you think any D1 coach can control everything around them? Between assistant coaches wanting to impress and overzealous boosters that think they are doing good by offering jobs or money, anything can happen. Again... provide the sanctions that were handed down and proof not hearsay. Then you accuse them of violations for having a great recruiting class. Ridiculous!
You’re accusing Brian Bowen of perjury because “the Bowen’s are dirtbags.” You prove it!
 
First and foremost I'm a Hawkeye fan and 2nd You are clueless and your statement makes no sense and is baseless. Prove it - If what you say is true Creighton would have been punished by the NCAA. 3rd you basically just said a certain head football coach and his program are DIRTY and unethical for racist issues. I believe you might be able to figure out who that may be. Every power 5 conference team also has boosters and business support of they're programs and with it big money. There are ways to get around NCAA regulations. I was a recruited athlete and my son was a D1 recruit.
Your tactics are interesting…… it must not be true because there is no NCAA punishment…. Look at the punishment doled out so far due to the recorded conversations. NCAA punishment is not a very solid criteria.

Then you ignore the fact that there has been no legal findings (punishment) of Iowa football and throw your little jab.

You also throw the ‘Bowen’s are dirtbags’ as a rationale while not acknowledging that the people crying ‘racist’ may be dirt bags as well.

Keep throwing darts, one should hit anytime.
 
You can't be serious. For real - it was an assistant trying to impress by linking to a sports agent so he could send players his way when they need an agent. The coach was sent packing and Creighton barely got a slap on the hand. McDermott and Creighton's AD are about as ethical as they come. Now his statement scandal is a whole different issue. However he still pulled in the 6th best recruiting class. If you think Iowa is pristine that's fine but recruiting is a dirty game and they all get away with something.
Claiming this as a sign of innocence is ridiculous. The NCAA is just about the most ineffectual organization I can think of when it comes to handing out punishment for violations of their basic rules. And if you have any allegations regarding Iowa violations, spill! It sure as hell hasn't seemed to help us much.
 
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