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Alabama Mayor kills himself after pictures of him cross-dressing come out.

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Alabama is probably not the best place to live if you are a cross-dresser. I am just sayin. Also he was a minister. Oh boy.

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I bet this guy looked awesome in fishnets and high heels!

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This story is bizarre and shows the worst of the internet, publicly outing someone, and just in general not being nice to one another. If you don't know the backstory, this individual who was a a mayor and pastor, had 2-3 separate accounts that were not self identifying. He posted pictures in which cross-dressed, was considering hormonal therapy and a few other items. This reporter who is a far right religious nut, cross referenced several of the posts with this individual and outed him last week. It went across far right media and the city and state. He received extreme vitriol across different sites ect. He came out with a post semi confirming but also defending what he was doing. Someone called in a welfare check at the end of last week, the cops found him on the side of the road he got out and shot himself.

Where do we draw the line. This guy wasn't commit any illegal activity, was not causing any harm to anyone else, yet this "reporter" felt it was his due obligation to out this individual, for clicks and what he felt was an immoral basis for being a mayor and pastor. I find it reprehensible what was done, this article ruined and took a life that was senseless. It is part of the reason why I had strong opinions about the outings of members on this site when we didn't know if they were factual or not. I won't go much more into that specific issue, but what is the boards opinion on this. Did the author have a right to do this, should the writer bear some liability in a potential court case? Should there be any regulation regarding this? I don't know what the right answers are, I just know the end result of this was pointless.
 
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This story is bizarre and shows the worst of the internet, publicly outing someone, and just in general not being nice to one another. If you don't know the backstory, this individual who was a a mayor and pastor, had 2-3 separate accounts that were not self identifying. He posted pictures in which cross-dressed, was considering hormonal therapy and a few other items. This reporter who is a far right religious nut, cross referenced several of the posts with this individual and outed him last week. It went across far right media and the city and state. He received extreme vitriol across different sites ect. He came out with a post semi confirming but also defending what he was doing. Someone called in a welfare check at the end of last week, the cops found in on the side of the road he got out and shot himself.

Where do we draw the line. This guy wasn't commit any illegal activity, was not causing any harm to anyone else, yet this "reporter" felt it was his due obligation to out this individual, for clicks and what he felt was an immoral basis for being a mayor and pastor. I find it reprehensible what was done, this article ruined and took a life that was senseless. It is part of the reason why I had strong opinions about the outings of members on this site when we didn't know if they were factual or not. I won't go much more into that specific issue, but what is the boards opinion on this. Did the author have a right to do this, should the writer bear some liability in a potential court case? Should there be any regulation regarding this? I don't know what the right answers are, I just know the end result of this was pointless.

Meh. Sinners get what they deserve.

(says a lot of gross ass "christians" everywhere)
 
Southern mayor leading a double life. Who a thunk it huh? Probably most of the fundamentalist Christians down there got the same thing going. They're a bunch of weirdos.
 
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To me its sad that people have to hide parts of themselves, but its the world we live in.

Everyone does it to some extent. His is an extreme one, but its there.
 
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This story is bizarre and shows the worst of the internet, publicly outing someone, and just in general not being nice to one another. If you don't know the backstory, this individual who was a a mayor and pastor, had 2-3 separate accounts that were not self identifying. He posted pictures in which cross-dressed, was considering hormonal therapy and a few other items. This reporter who is a far right religious nut, cross referenced several of the posts with this individual and outed him last week. It went across far right media and the city and state. He received extreme vitriol across different sites ect. He came out with a post semi confirming but also defending what he was doing. Someone called in a welfare check at the end of last week, the cops found him on the side of the road he got out and shot himself.

Where do we draw the line. This guy wasn't commit any illegal activity, was not causing any harm to anyone else, yet this "reporter" felt it was his due obligation to out this individual, for clicks and what he felt was an immoral basis for being a mayor and pastor. I find it reprehensible what was done, this article ruined and took a life that was senseless. It is part of the reason why I had strong opinions about the outings of members on this site when we didn't know if they were factual or not. I won't go much more into that specific issue, but what is the boards opinion on this. Did the author have a right to do this, should the writer bear some liability in a potential court case? Should there be any regulation regarding this? I don't know what the right answers are, I just know the end result of this was pointless.
Hmm, interesting thoughts.

First of all, that type of "gotcha" journalism is just gross - nothing more than modern online tabloid pulp.

That said, I find the mayor/pastor to be very naive if he thought "fake" accounts on social media would protect his secret from getting out. If he felt so ashamed about the practice of cross-dressing, why the need to post about it publicly anywhere and run the risk of being "outed?"

I feel very sorry for him and his family. But part of me wonders why he didn't just own it. I mean, once the cat was out of the bag, just stand up and be like "I like wearing ladies clothes and posting about it on the internet - if you don't like it - tough shit."
 
Hmm, interesting thoughts.

First of all, that type of "gotcha" journalism is just gross - nothing more than modern online tabloid pulp.

That said, I find the mayor/pastor to be very naive if he thought "fake" accounts on social media would protect his secret from getting out. If he felt so ashamed about the practice of cross-dressing, why the need to post about it publicly anywhere and run the risk of being "outed?"

I feel very sorry for him and his family. But part of me wonders why he didn't just own it. I mean, once the cat was out of the bag, just stand up and be like "I like wearing ladies clothes and posting about it on the internet - if you don't like it - tough shit."
I am conflicted, it shows nothing on the internet is private. I also think he took what he felt was an easy way out while making things much more difficult for his family. On the other hand, this was deplorable, as you said it was a gotcha moment and in the grand scheme of things nothing that is against the church. Yes I know the versus on dressing like the opposite sex is an abomination, I also know it says if women where their hair too short or men too long they are going to hell in the old testament. Its a bunch of baloney. This author was given factual answers yet still tried to put him in as negative a light as possible.
 
This story is bizarre and shows the worst of the internet, publicly outing someone, and just in general not being nice to one another. If you don't know the backstory, this individual who was a a mayor and pastor, had 2-3 separate accounts that were not self identifying. He posted pictures in which cross-dressed, was considering hormonal therapy and a few other items. This reporter who is a far right religious nut, cross referenced several of the posts with this individual and outed him last week. It went across far right media and the city and state. He received extreme vitriol across different sites ect. He came out with a post semi confirming but also defending what he was doing. Someone called in a welfare check at the end of last week, the cops found him on the side of the road he got out and shot himself.

Where do we draw the line. This guy wasn't commit any illegal activity, was not causing any harm to anyone else, yet this "reporter" felt it was his due obligation to out this individual, for clicks and what he felt was an immoral basis for being a mayor and pastor. I find it reprehensible what was done, this article ruined and took a life that was senseless. It is part of the reason why I had strong opinions about the outings of members on this site when we didn't know if they were factual or not. I won't go much more into that specific issue, but what is the boards opinion on this. Did the author have a right to do this, should the writer bear some liability in a potential court case? Should there be any regulation regarding this? I don't know what the right answers are, I just know the end result of this was pointless.
Thats really too bad. He wasn't hurting anyone.
 
Hmm, interesting thoughts.

First of all, that type of "gotcha" journalism is just gross - nothing more than modern online tabloid pulp.

That said, I find the mayor/pastor to be very naive if he thought "fake" accounts on social media would protect his secret from getting out. If he felt so ashamed about the practice of cross-dressing, why the need to post about it publicly anywhere and run the risk of being "outed?"

I feel very sorry for him and his family. But part of me wonders why he didn't just own it. I mean, once the cat was out of the bag, just stand up and be like "I like wearing ladies clothes and posting about it on the internet - if you don't like it - tough shit."
Likely bc what he was hiding made him feel good or beautiful and he knew anyone in his close personal circle would not accept. Maybe his congregation would not accept. Still, he likely just wanted to be seen by someone else in the way he wants to see himself so he joined online communities.
 
in the case of the Busch Light scandal, Carson King released the goods first and that alone was able to control the narrative moving forward. In hindsight, the person who can get their messaging out first wins these battles and it can avalanche on the other.

I think this case is also true to that. If the pastor would have sought out public image specialist at first wind, they could have drafted their own press release arguing any small points they may have, mainly provide a sort of blackmail feel on the reporter.
 
Likely bc what he was hiding made him feel good or beautiful and he knew anyone in his close personal circle would not accept. Maybe his congregation would not accept. Still, he likely just wanted to be seen by someone else in the way he wants to see himself so he joined online communities.
He was the pastor at a southern Baptist church so there is no doubt his congregation would not be accepting of his cross-dressing. While he may not have preached against cross-dressing, there is a good chance he preached against homosexuality and transgenders. It is sad that he felt that his only option was to take his own life. There are churches/congregations out there that would be accepting of his behavior, but probably not in that town.
 
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Hmm, interesting thoughts.

First of all, that type of "gotcha" journalism is just gross - nothing more than modern online tabloid pulp.

That said, I find the mayor/pastor to be very naive if he thought "fake" accounts on social media would protect his secret from getting out. If he felt so ashamed about the practice of cross-dressing, why the need to post about it publicly anywhere and run the risk of being "outed?"

I feel very sorry for him and his family. But part of me wonders why he didn't just own it. I mean, once the cat was out of the bag, just stand up and be like "I like wearing ladies clothes and posting about it on the internet - if you don't like it - tough shit."
You haven’t spent much time in Alabama.
 
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