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What I think is funny is Saban pled his case yesterday about why they should be in while OSU was winning a football game. Bs if you ask me. System is flawed
 
Like I said, 56 and 83 isn't that far off. If you take out Auburn, which Alabama lost to, I would guess Bama's strength of schedule would fall behind UCF. Also Auburn now has 3 loses so SOS will fall regardless.

Bama's only quality win was against an ok LSU. UCF had quality wins against Memphis and USF, both of whom are comparible to LSU this year.

25 - 45 ranking spots is more than “not far off”.

Alabama will have two wins against teams (LSU & MSU) better than UCF’s best two wins (Memphis x2).
 
All I keep hearing is Ohio State and Alabama. I'm sick of this crap, Alabama beat nobody this year. They played one less conference game then Ohio State.

My shouldnt Ohio State get in now? No! They deserve it over Alabama but as I said they dont belong either. You dont lose by 31 to a 7-5 team and get in.

I would put UCF in there, they are undefeated and I would love to see the commitee have some guts and give them a shot.

Ok, with all that said about deserving based on not having any losses I have to be honest and admit Ohio State is the most talented team. They have hosses and speed all over the field. They have two top ten teams and just pushed around the bullies of The BIG.

Now here is what will happen and Delaney is gonna be ticked. Two SEC teams are going to get in and that miserable looking Satan is going to get his way. Urban will pout and Ohio State fans are going to whine and complain about winning the conference and not getting in, hypocrites.

Freaking Bama and Bucknuts, the more things change the more they stay the same. The playoff was intended to fix the controversy. Good job guys.

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You’re confusing best record with best resume. If I was a sales manager comparing two potential sales people to join my team, the person who says they have made 15 sales calls door to door the past 2 months , closed every single time, for a total revenue of $8000; and a person who has 8 years of B to B Professional Sales who closes on 20% of their calls, averaging $3.2 million dollars in revenue... the first person would have the better record of sales closes, but the second person would have a much more impressive resume.

UCF has the better record, some of the other contenders have a better resume.

No..... no I am not. I place a great deal of value in having no losses. Nice sale analogy though. Hope you didn't work to hard on it.
 
I was just responding to your OP question, who has Alabama beat. Then you go on to say UCF deserves a shot. I think fair is fair, who has UCF beat?

I’m not an Alabama fan by any means and would feel a lot better if they weren’t in the CFP. Just asking a question.
I could say Memphis and USF but they arent great wins. My point originally is comparing Alabama and UCF on their resume. Neither team has a quality win.

Alabama plays in a tougher conference but has a loss to a three loss team with no quality wins.

Ohio State has two losses to a Big Twelve champ and a blowout loss to a middle of the pack BIG team. They have two great wins over top ten teams.They are BIG champions and play in the best division this year.

UCF has no quality wins, they have zero losses and are AAC champions.

If you assign a scoring system based on results here is gow I score it.

Alabama by virtue of playing a P5 conference slate gets 50 points as does Ohio State. Ohio State gets an additional two points for an extra conference game.

UCF gets 40 points for playing an AAC schedule.

Ohio State gets deducted five points for losing to a P5 champion at home. They get deducted 20 points for losing by more than three scores to a five loss team. They get 20 points for winning a P5 conference title . They gain an additional ten points for 2 top 10 wins giving them 57 points.

Alabama gets deducted 8 points for losing by two scores on the road to a three loss SEC West champion. They get no additional points for top ten wins giving them 42 points.

UCF gets 10 points for winning the AAC conference and no additional points for 0 top ten wins.

Their point total would equal 50 points if I didnt factor in the fact they are the only undefeated team in FBS. For my argument sake and because its my own slanted formula they get 8 points for this giving them 58 points and the nod.
 
Who would be the two top teams this year?

BCS would have been full of controversy this year. Who you not taking from Clemson, OU, UGA? But this year it’s hard picking four. If they only had to pick three it’s easy. If they got to pick 8 also easy. 5, 6, 7 would have been harder. Each year there’s a clear separation at some point, when it happens to be at four the CFP works great. When it doesn’t, not so much
 
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We'll see how good UCF is when they face Auburn. My guess is they get rolled, but I've been wrong many times before.
Finebaum and the rest of his Alabama hype crew are incredibly happy the SEC got its way. He said a fraudulent Wisconsin team shouldnt have got in even had they won.

He justified leaving Ohio State because they were leaking oil at the end of the game, meaning Wisconsin made a comeback.

Mr. Finebaum said if Ohio State had won 41 to 17 the commitee would have put them in. ????? They said the blowout to Iowa was too hard to overlook.

How would blasting an undefeated team change what happened four weeks ago? Dont give me the eye test because they still lost by 31. Same players.

You already stated Wisconsin was not that good, so beating an average team by 30 doesn't make that Iowa loss go away. They would have to beat Mercer by sixty six to excuse any loss right?

I hope UCF murders Auburn just for ESPN's spin story. All of a sudden UCF will become worthy .
 
BCS would have been full of controversy this year. Who you not taking from Clemson, OU, UGA? But this year it’s hard picking four. If they only had to pick three it’s easy. If they got to pick 8 also easy. 5, 6, 7 would have been harder. Each year there’s a clear separation at some point, when it happens to be at four the CFP works great. When it doesn’t, not so much

The nice thing about this year's problem is that the top 3 teams are definitely in. When arguing about a 4th team, it's really just a matter of which team close to the top 4 gets lucky enough to be invited. This is way better than the BCS. I think the formation of super-conferences and divisions has really caused the most problems and clearly the CCGs can cause as much confusion as not having any CCGs. If there hadn't been CCGs and things were as they are now, the final four would have been Clemson, Oklahoma, Auburn, and Wisconsin. The top two would have remained the same, but what a difference the CCGs made for the final two teams.

There's a lot to consider for future tweaking of the system. I don't think expanding the playoffs is the answer. This will never happen, but imagine eliminating the B12 and moving all of those schools plus eight Group of 5 schools to each of the remaining four conferences (four more schools to the SEC, B10, ACC, and six more schools to the PAC12) in order for the SEC, ACC, B10, and PAC18 to have two 9-team divisions in which each of those teams play eight divisional games and the divisional winners face off in CCGs to determine the four playoff teams.

I know it will never happen and even if you had four conferences with two 10-team divisions with each team playing 9 divisional games there would be outcries. For one thing, non conference/non-division games would mean nothing in terms of the playoffs. A team could go 0-3 or 0-4 in the non conference, win 8 games in the division, win the conference championship, and make the playoffs. No one would ever schedule tough non conference games; everyone would load up on cupcakes in September and that month would feel like preseason instead of important games.

I think the current format is about as good as it will get.
 
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