Alito Decries 'Hostility to Religion' in First Public Remarks Since Abortion Decision

[THE_DEVIL]

Speaking in Rome at a religious-liberty summit sponsored by Notre Dame Law School, Alito said the decline of faith in the Western world had left believers vulnerable to discrimination.

Alito, sporting a beard he doesn’t have when the justices are on the bench, said religious liberty “promotes domestic tranquility.”

 

[mnole03]

He really is persecuted like Christ.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

So “believers” are now vulnerable to discrimination? As opposed to women (and soon to be same-sex as well as interracial couples) who are already subjected to discrimination.
Boy, that’s rich.

 

[SSG T]

Umm, should SCOTUS justices be making speeches that include both political and religious statements?

 

[Moral]

I really wish people at the top levels of our country didn’t love sky daddy so much.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

When asked for comment, Justice Thomas said the Court wasn’t political and wonders why the the public keeps saying it is.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Illegitimate kangaroo court

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[StormHawk42]

Umm, should SCOTUS justices be making speeches that include both political and religious statements?

No but that’s where we are.

Also, what a huge pus*y.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[TheCainer]

Speaking in Rome at a religious-liberty summit sponsored by Notre Dame Law School, Alito said the decline of faith in the Western world had left believers vulnerable to discrimination.

Alito, sporting a beard he doesn’t have when the justices are on the bench, said religious liberty “promotes domestic tranquility.”

Alito should just establish a permanent residence in Rome and not come back.

 

[lucas80]

Umm, should SCOTUS justices be making speeches that include both political and religious statements?

And, who paid for his travel? I have huge concerns about any federal employee taking things of value. A member of the SCOTUS shouldn't be traveling or vacationing on anyone's dime but their own, or at the taxpayer's expense for official duties.

 

[mnole03]

And, who paid for his travel? I have huge concerns about any federal employee taking things of value. A member of the SCOTUS shouldn't be traveling or vacationing on anyone's dime but their own, or at the taxpayer's expense for official duties.

That’s actually my concern regarding this. If you look at the list of participants, it’s mostly American professors who regularly interact, which means holding “the summit” in Rome was largely for the travel benefit.

It’s fine for Notre Dame to entice professors with a free trip to Italy, it’s a little different for a sitting Supreme Court Justice. I sincerely hope Alito flew there on his own dime.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

I hate whataboutisms and imagine ifs, but just imagine a Muslim Supreme Court judge making similar comments at a summit in Mecca.

Just imagine the fallout.

 

[lucas80]

That’s actually my concern regarding this. If you look at the list of participants, it’s mostly American professors who regularly interact, which means holding “the summit” in Rome was largely for the travel benefit.

It’s fine for Notre Dame to entice professors with a free trip to Italy, it’s a little different for a sitting Supreme Court Justice. I sincerely hope Alito flew there on his own dime.

Scalia died at some hunting preserve on a junket. I've said it many times, the SCOTUS members are too insulated from the general public. Special trips and retreats where they are treated to more echo chamber is not good.

 

[mnole03]

Scalia died at some hunting preserve on a junket. I've said it many times, the SCOTUS members are too insulated from the general public. Special trips and retreats where they are treated to more echo chamber is not good.

After flying to Texas on the private jet of a DC lawyer. If we took ethics rules seriously, we wouldn’t allow any of this.

 

[mustang_hawk]

I agree, it’s much more acceptable when someone like him shoves his religious beliefs down the throats of everyone else.

 

[bhawk24bob]

History isn't going to be kind to some of these justices

 

[BioHawk]

I hate whataboutisms and imagine ifs, but just imagine a Muslim Supreme Court judge making similar comments at a summit in Mecca.

Just imagine the fallout.

Just imagine if a Muslim were nominated for a seat.

 

[sober_teacher]

After flying to Texas on the private jet of a DC lawyer. If we took ethics rules seriously, we wouldn’t allow any of this.

The trick here is that the SC doesn’t have a code of ethics to hold itself to.

Congress should force their hand and pass a bill requiring them to adopt one, or else they’d write one for them.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

History isn't going to be kind to some of these justices

It doesn't matter to zealots

 

[ericram]

Just imagine if a Muslim were nominated for a seat.

Oh the horrors of a Muslim man or woman to be nominated. In this and many senses this is a Christian nation.

 

[lucas80]

History isn't going to be kind to some of these justices

The damage will have been done.

 

[Fijimn]

There are rumors that Alito is a member of Opus Dei....certain aspects of him suggests to me that the rumor may be accurate.

 

[GES4]

Speaking in Rome at a religious-liberty summit sponsored by Notre Dame Law School, Alito said the decline of faith in the Western world had left believers vulnerable to discrimination.

Alito, sporting a beard he doesn’t have when the justices are on the bench, said religious liberty “promotes domestic tranquility.”

Just incredible to me that a Justice in the highest court of the land can namecheck and mock world leaders without any repercussions.

 

[Tfxchawk]

Just incredible to me that a Justice in the highest court of the land can namecheck and mock world leaders without any repercussions.

Sounds like he is responding to world leaders that have stricter abortion standards in their own countries than anything in the US. Maybe those world leaders should stfu

 

[GES4]

Sounds like he is responding to world leaders that have stricter abortion standards in their own countries than anything in the US. Maybe those world leaders should stfu

He shouldn't be responding to any world leaders. That's not his job.

 

[BioHawk]

Oh the horrors of a Muslim man or woman to be nominated. In this and many senses this is a Christian nation.

Honestly, I would have to know what that particular person's view on the separation of Church and State was because there certainly is that concern with different sects of Islam. Of course, the 6 catholics on the court right now also do not believe in a separation of church and state so I guess my statement should actually say, "I need to know the views of a justice's belief in Separation of Church and state." It doesn't matter the religion. Of course, we also know these people lie so it really doesn't matter I guess.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

That’s actually my concern regarding this. If you look at the list of participants, it’s mostly American professors who regularly interact, which means holding “the summit” in Rome was largely for the travel benefit.

It’s fine for Notre Dame to entice professors with a free trip to Italy, it’s a little different for a sitting Supreme Court Justice. I sincerely hope Alito flew there on his own dime.

Meh as long as he recuses himself from any case in which ND is itself a party. I don't think a supreme court justice can avoid all potential conflicts of interest.

That said I do think that the ethics where enforced on the SCOTUS instead of just being suggestions.

 

[kc78]

If religious people didn't insist on forcing their religious views down everyone elses throats then maybe there wouldn't be such hostility to religion any longer.

But yes, many of us have recognized that your all powerful sky God with His set of archaic rules we must follow or burn forever doesn't exist, and have recognized that ordering our society by them is stupid.

 

[Tfxchawk]

He shouldn't be responding to any world leaders. That's not his job.

Why not?

 

[GES4]

Why not?

Do you know how the federal judiciary works? Are judges intended to be foreign policy wonks? Are they expected to have opinions on foreign policy? Are they supposed to have biases they air out in religious speeches? I'll stop there. You're a donkey.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Illegitimate kangaroo court

100 percent

 

[Tfxchawk]

Do you know how the federal judiciary works? Are judges intended to be foreign policy wonks? Are they expected to have opinions on foreign policy? Are they supposed to have biases they air out in religious speeches? I'll stop there. You're a donkey.

Oh shut the **** up. He owes nothing to some asshole foreign leader with an opinion.

A foreign leader attempting to influence a supreme court decision for that matter.

 

[lucas80]

There are rumors that Alito is a member of Opus Dei....certain aspects of him suggests to me that the rumor may be accurate.

Has Tom Hanks starred in a movie where Opus Dei members try to kill him over some ancient religious mystery?

 

[ft254]

Oh shut the **** up. He owes nothing to some asshole foreign leader with an opinion.

A foreign leader attempting to influence a supreme court decision for that matter.

Must be,...oh yes..a Texas dipshit weighing in.

 

[TheCainer]

Must be,...oh yes..a Texas dipshit weighing in.

Don't mess with Tech-shus.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

…I guess my statement should actually say, "I need to know the views of a justice's belief in Separation of Church and state." It doesn't matter the religion. Of course, we also know these people lie so it really doesn't matter I guess.

The poorly decided (IMHO) cases aside, our situation with the SCOTUS is quickly becoming untenable.

1. The system for nomination/advise and consent has been overtaken by extreme partisanship.

2. Nominees can lie to gain admission to the court without consequences.

3. There is no sign from our elected representatives that they have the will to do anything about this.

If these conditions do not change, it will lead to the delegitimization of the Court and ultimately be its undoing.

 

[Tfxchawk]

The poorly decided (IMHO) cases aside, our situation with the SCOTUS is quickly becoming untenable.

1. The system for nomination/advise and consent has been overtaken by extreme partisanship.

2. Nominees can lie to gain admission to the court without consequences.

3. There is no sign from our elected representatives that they have the will to do anything about this.

If these conditions do not change, it will lead to the delegitimization of the Court and ultimately be its undoing.

People like you are so stupid it hurts. Just shut up

 

[sober_teacher]

People like you are so stupid it hurts. Just shut up

Excellent reply. Outstanding job of deconstructing the arguments he made.