This is just a macro of Fran and terrible everything.
All 47 people in attendance are shocked at terrible coaching/execution
- Thread starter DropitlikeitsHawk
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I’m a Fran fan and that was probably the worst coached team I’ve seen under him. I’ve seen better defensive fundamentals in rec ball. Our whole offense was throwing up 3 balls. Freeman never posted up and looked like he would rather be getting circumcised than playing b ball. Harding made repeatedly stupid turnovers. And not fouling at the end of regulation!
Thank God for Dix, and Sandfort finally pulling his head out of his arse and playing hero ball, but this game is not a recipe for winning.
Thank God for Dix, and Sandfort finally pulling his head out of his arse and playing hero ball, but this game is not a recipe for winning.
Just out of curiosity why are you such a "Fran fan"....
He consistently wins more than he loses, usually makes the NCAA tournament, produces great individual players (Garza, Murray’s etc), plays an exciting style of basketball and I respect him as a person and leader of young men. He represents the university well.
Announced Attendance (tickets sold AND distributed): 7,812
Actual tickets scanned/butts in the seats: takes a FOIA from a beat writer to get that number.
From someone at the game:
Actual tickets scanned/butts in the seats: takes a FOIA from a beat writer to get that number.
From someone at the game:
Harding did foul. It just wasn’t called. The one damn time Iowa fouls up three in the final seconds, it doesn’t get called and a three is made regardless.
FTs were definitely a difference maker again tonight. Very happy to have them in Iowa’s favor. Iowa shot FTs well as a team, Nebraska did not.
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.The execution of the foul was poor. You need to reach in hard at the low point of a dribble. Even if the ball handler tries to act like he's shooting, if he can't bring his hands up, the official is never going to award a shot motion over a pass motion with that much time left.
Part of me thinks we should've intentionally fouled their big up 4 as well before the Williams guy made his first 3 to cut it to 1.
The foul was right away, as soon as Nebraska caught the inbound. It was clear and obvious reach in, and I was near the player’s tunnel. If anything, Iowa should have informed the refs of their intentions, which appears is what they did on the 6th foul, but not the 7th when they were up three.
"Consistently wins more than he loses":
NCAA Tournament .363
Big Ten Tournament .429
Big Ten .502
"Usually makes the NCAA Tournament":
Seasons with NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
Seasons with No NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
He's consistently beaten a lot of Kenpom 250+ teams over the course of 15 years. That's what his body of work really all boils down to.
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Social media poison ……even after an exciting win we find reason to complain. What causes this ….is it something in the water ? Or is it just that people feel the need to complain even after a win. The team really doesn’t deserve fans like this. Maybe it’s just weak minded negative people.
This message board has become more toxic than Twitter/X.
you think that was a well played game? Docterman even commented on the homer calls we were getting and I agree. That double dribble might be the worst no call of the college basketball season thus far.
It’s people seeing that game for what it was, fools gold. Iowa will be fine moving forward if sandfort continues to drop 30 in the 2nd half every night to mask the other god awful issues the team has.
You can thank both Frank Garza and Kenyon Murry's efforts for those boys.
And always has, for then entirety of Fran's tenure. I'd argue the players don't deserve a coach like him.
I stopped watching Iowa bb two years ago. From reading the posts here I feel I made the right decision.
Fran will always get credit in my book for bringing the program out of the gutter, which is something to be proud of. (Similar to Fry, but Fry's rebound was more of an accomplishment)
Fran will also be remembered for hitting the glass ceiling multiple times in the tournament, with all time great players, etc
Fran will also be remembered for hitting the glass ceiling multiple times in the tournament, with all time great players, etc
And you can thank Fran for recruiting them. I'm sure you believe Fran didn't help with their development at all, but you'd be wrong.
I guess you haven't figured out yet that its mostly the whiners who post in these forums. Anyone who attempts to show some positivity is immediately ridiculed and shouted down.
Shoot 47.5% (including 48.6% from 3), Sandy and Dix go for 61. Give up 87 points and 14 offensive rebounds.
Simple formula for winning basketball.
Simple formula for winning basketball.
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Didn’t you start a thread last game about how you were done with Fran?
That was a quick 180.
I didn’t see anything in that post that commented or implied anything about ‘well played’
Care to share what you saw in the post that said that or even hinted at that?
You won’t find too many former players (or current ones for that matter) who would agree with that statement.
I am as fed up as anyone by the consistent glaring weaknesses of Fran’s teams, but I think we need to be careful in disparaging Fran too much. Yes, I still am irritated by things like burying the Murray twins on the bench behind his sons, the lack of use of timeouts, or Fran’s seeming yawning at terrible defense, but let’s not pretend there aren’t plenty of positives with Fran.
Yes, I think it’s time for new blood and for Fran to ride off into the sunset. I still believe there should be some level of respect for Fran bringing a little respectability back to Iowa basketball.
"Consistently wins more than he loses":
NCAA Tournament .363
Big Ten Tournament .429
Big Ten .502
"Usually makes the NCAA Tournament":
Seasons with NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
Seasons with No NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
He's consistently beaten a lot of Kenpom 250+ teams over the course of 15 years. That's what his body of work really all boils down to.
He would have made the tourney 8 of the last 11 years if there was a tourney in 2020.
That’s just not bad.
Read the game threads. When Iowa is winning, one half is a half-page. When they are losing, there is about 3 pages for each missed shot/rebound.
I’ve never believed at any point Fran would be fired but that can’t continue. You can’t be selling 50% of the seats for a conference game.
All you have to do is go back to review the posts when Fran indicated that he had recruited the Murray twins to see how fans responded to their recruitment. I don't believe that Garza's recruitment was well received either.
The double-dribble was on a quick change of possession and the refs were turning to run the other direction. One ref was directly behind Payton. its understandable to see how they could have missed it. Other than that, I really didn't see a lot of calls that benefitted Iowa to the point of blowing a 15-point lead in 10 minutes. FT shooting is the problem if Neb wants to complain about something.
Fran has also won just 2 NCAA games in the past 7 years and counting (I didn't count the COVID year), which is not all that great, either. As I type this, there's a lot of work to do if this season isn't going to make that 2 wins in 8 years. Beating Nebraska last night is a start.
Fran has done a decent job at Iowa, but overall, it's been pretty meh for me. I'm not sure I'm seeing what it is that some people are so afraid of losing if there's a coaching change. Could the next guy be a flop? Of course. But we saw after Todd Lickliter was shown the door, that things can be rebuilt pretty quickly if the next guy is competent. This is something I simply am not afraid of, as a fan.
I'll give Fran credit for the post-Lickliter rebuild and for making the program at least competitive, but I think he's taken this program as far as he's going to. People are either satisfied with the current product, or they're not. I personally am not, but I won't crap on others who are. To each their own.
And? I can still suppport the team and hope they have a good season. I also stated I hope we go on a run and both parties part ways at end of year. I also thanked and respected him in the OP. 😆
It is sad how far our fans expectations have fallen. They act like we are lucky to be average. I hope Beth has higher ambitions for the program."Consistently wins more than he loses":
NCAA Tournament .363
Big Ten Tournament .429
Big Ten .502
"Usually makes the NCAA Tournament":
Seasons with NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
Seasons with No NCAA Tournament Invitation 7
He's consistently beaten a lot of Kenpom 250+ teams over the course of 15 years. That's what his body of work really all boils down to.
