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Alternate Uniforms?

Either of the top two. Or just wear black pants with the black jersey and white pants with the white jersey a few games a year.
 
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No, they're a copy.
If Michigan copied Delaware, are the wings not a tradition?

I’m guessing most traditions are copied, but once the act is practiced for an extended period of time, it is a tradition. ND probably wasn’t the first team to have gold helmets. Is it Army, or ND with the traditional gold helmet? One is a tradition, and the other was copied?…

They both have traditional helmets. I think it’s been long enough.

Iowa’s had the same uniform longer than 80% of the rest of the nation. I’d say it’s tradition. That, and on top of the uniform, they have one of the greatest helmets in all of football.
 
My alt. uniform preferences:

- Let the kids skip the socks for once Kirk.

- Something with a script "Iowa" on the helmet just once. Like in this picture:

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I think a white helmet with black lettering and gold trim around the black would be great. Not sure how feasible new helmets are with the special ones we have for concussions....

- Current home but with black pants, like 2019 Minn game. Also side note - not a fan of the flag tigerhawk.

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- All white but in the style of what we currently have.

- All black or anthracite gray, similar to this (credit to random google search):





Give me a six pack, some markers, and a direct line to the AD and we've have the sickest alts around.
 
And none of the Pittsburgh sports team has been around as long as the U of I. So I am searching for how that applies. Can you clarify that? :rolleyes:
If you’re suggesting that the Pirates stole their colors from Iowa, I’ll let you stand on that flag. Also, Iowa’s colors were black and old gold back in the day, not yellow.
 
Just win baby! The players (and recruits) like alt unis so we should do them once a year.
 
Alt unis are fine once a year. The only change I've wanted to see for a long time is going to black shoes and socks at least at home. I think white looks stupid with our home unis. Also not a fan of the font change on numbers but that's not a big deal
 
I could see us bringing back the black pants for the blackout game against Minn. I really like that look.
Black pants, black cleats, black socks, black jersey, black helmet. No stripes. Light gray “shadow” Tiger Hawk on helmet, light gray numbers.
 
Black pants, black cleats, black socks, black jersey, black helmet. No stripes. Light gray “shadow” Tiger Hawk on helmet, light gray numbers.
Yes. When we wore our usual black jerseys with black pants and the fat yellow stripe it looked awful.
 
I'm sure it's just me, but I was over this "alternate" uni thing before it started. Show respect for good tradition. In that vein, look at the Yankees, despite how much most of us hate them, they understand good tradition. They are still the only team in MLB without their names on their jerseys, home or away. They wear traditional gray on the road and traditional pinstripes at home. Who needs an alternate uniform? You're the Yankees, dammit. Look like the Yankees.

The alt uni obsession is another unfortunate byproduct of so much money in college sports (and pro sports too). It wasn't THAT long ago that most teams couldn't even afford decent practice uniforms let alone two or three or four sets of 125 game unis.

I realize I'm spittin' into the wind. But, for example, I wish Iowa had destroyed Ohio State 55-24 while wearing their actual, nationally identifiable uniforms. The gray alts were not bad. They just didn't say IOWA.
I appreciate our traditional uni as much as anybody(except you maybe😉) but variety is the spice of life my man.
 
apparently that comment went over your heads...

I wanted one of those jerseys so bad as a kid first really getting into college football.

A couple years later, I got a Sedrick Shaw jersey after they switched styles. I was slightly disappointed about not getting a banana peel jersey before they were gone, but I was happy that I got a jersey of my favorite player at the time.

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Csb- my first jersey I ever got was actually a Troy Davis jersey. Uncle on my mom's side is an ISU alum and got me one for my birthday, so it's not like I could turn that down as a 9 yr old...........
 
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I'm sure it's just me, but I was over this "alternate" uni thing before it started. Show respect for good tradition. In that vein, look at the Yankees, despite how much most of us hate them, they understand good tradition. They are still the only team in MLB without their names on their jerseys, home or away. They wear traditional gray on the road and traditional pinstripes at home. Who needs an alternate uniform? You're the Yankees, dammit. Look like the Yankees.

The alt uni obsession is another unfortunate byproduct of so much money in college sports (and pro sports too). It wasn't THAT long ago that most teams couldn't even afford decent practice uniforms let alone two or three or four sets of 125 game unis.

I realize I'm spittin' into the wind. But, for example, I wish Iowa had destroyed Ohio State 55-24 while wearing their actual, nationally identifiable uniforms. The gray alts were not bad. They just didn't say IOWA.
Totally agree. Personally I was disappointed one of our biggest wins (OSU in 2017) we weren’t wearing our uniforms because it didn’t LOOK like Iowa on the field so it was a missed opportunity for brand building.

We are one of the programs lucky enough to have some tradition so we should embrace it. Only 2 coaches since the late 70s and other than maybe 4 years we’ve had the same uniform all of those years (and it helps that we’ve had winning teams nearly all of those years).

Changing uniforms all the time is for teams searching and trying to find an identity. You don’t see Penn State and Alabama rolling out alternative uniforms all the time, and for good reason. When people see their uniforms it means something because their brand is recognizable. Obviously we aren’t quite at that level but you get the idea, that’s what we should be aspiring towards.

The one exception to all of this is throwback uniforms to some of our good teams from the past like the 1958 uniforms several people have posted. One of the few things ISU has done that I’ve really liked is those Jack Trice throwbacks and the stripe logo they’ve been using. I really like the idea of tying the present to the past and honoring the past. Obviously Iowa has been trying to honor Duke Slater lately but it doesn’t look like our uniform from that time were very distinctive.
 
If Michigan copied Delaware, are the wings not a tradition?

I’m guessing most traditions are copied, but once the act is practiced for an extended period of time, it is a tradition. ND probably wasn’t the first team to have gold helmets. Is it Army, or ND with the traditional gold helmet? One is a tradition, and the other was copied?…

They both have traditional helmets. I think it’s been long enough.

Iowa’s had the same uniform longer than 80% of the rest of the nation. I’d say it’s tradition. That, and on top of the uniform, they have one of the greatest helmets in all of football.
Except Michigan didn't copy Delaware. Crisler designed that style at Princeton, brought it to Michigan in the late 30s and it's been there since. That's actually tradition.
 
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Except Michigan didn't copy Delaware. Crisler designed that style at Princeton, brought it to Michigan in the late 30s and it's been there since. That's actually tradition.
You proved my point.

You are talking about originality, not tradition. Michigan had been doing it since the 30s, but they weren’t the originals.

Yes, that is actually tradition. They have been doing it consistently for a very long time, that is a tradition. Kind of like Iowa’s uniforms…
 
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If you’re suggesting that the Pirates stole their colors from Iowa, I’ll let you stand on that flag. Also, Iowa’s colors were black and old gold back in the day, not yellow.

Except Michigan didn't copy Delaware. Crisler designed that style at Princeton, brought it to Michigan in the late 30s and it's been there since. That's actually tradition.
So Michigan had PJ Fleck before there was a PJ Fleck? Just exchange oars for wings.
 
You proved my point.

You are talking about originality, not tradition. Michigan had been doing it since the 30s, but they weren’t the originals.

Yes, that is actually tradition. They have been doing it consistently for a very long time, that is a tradition. Kind of like Iowa’s uniforms…
The person who designed that brought it to Michigan (and didn't copy Princeton). Your point only stands if the person who designed the Steelers unis came to Iowa to coach the Hawks...but he didnt, so just acknowledge you were incorrect and drop it.
 
The person who designed that brought it to Michigan (and didn't copy Princeton). Your point only stands if the person who designed the Steelers unis came to Iowa to coach the Hawks...but he didnt, so just acknowledge you were incorrect and drop it.
So PJ Fleck and his oars are more traditional than the Iowa uniform?
 
Anyone remember the famous 1977 game when ND left the practice field in their usual blue jerseys and came out for the game against USC in green unis? Even the ND players didn't know this was planned but clearly bought into the idea. The crowd went berserk and Notre Dame crushed USC that evening. The Trojan Horse game.

Just saying that alternate uniforms, when done in timely games, can fire up the team.
 
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Totally agree. Personally I was disappointed one of our biggest wins (OSU in 2017) we weren’t wearing our uniforms because it didn’t LOOK like Iowa on the field so it was a missed opportunity for brand building.

We are one of the programs lucky enough to have some tradition so we should embrace it. Only 2 coaches since the late 70s and other than maybe 4 years we’ve had the same uniform all of those years (and it helps that we’ve had winning teams nearly all of those years).

Changing uniforms all the time is for teams searching and trying to find an identity. You don’t see Penn State and Alabama rolling out alternative uniforms all the time, and for good reason. When people see their uniforms it means something because their brand is recognizable. Obviously we aren’t quite at that level but you get the idea, that’s what we should be aspiring towards.

The one exception to all of this is throwback uniforms to some of our good teams from the past like the 1958 uniforms several people have posted. One of the few things ISU has done that I’ve really liked is those Jack Trice throwbacks and the stripe logo they’ve been using. I really like the idea of tying the present to the past and honoring the past. Obviously Iowa has been trying to honor Duke Slater lately but it doesn’t look like our uniform from that time were very distinctive.

It's a good thing you're not a talented athlete we're trying to recruit. I get the appeals to tradition, but like it or not the players like this stuff. At the end of the day that's all that matters. I'd say many kids who watched that game said "I didn't know Iowa did that" and maybe changed their perspective on the program in a good way.
 
Copying the Steelers uniforms since 1980 is not “good tradition.” The Steelers uniforms were chosen for the pathetic reason that they were good at the time and Iowa’s uniforms would therefore more recognizable nationally. Even Hayden ditched them in the 1990s. There is nothing sacrosanct about copycat uniforms we have only been wearing since the 80s.
Keeping them = tradition and ours are now among the best looking, and most recognizable in college football. That's a very good thing.
 
Copying the Steelers uniforms since 1980 is not “good tradition.” The Steelers uniforms were chosen for the pathetic reason that they were good at the time and Iowa’s uniforms would therefore more recognizable nationally. Even Hayden ditched them in the 1990s. There is nothing sacrosanct about copycat uniforms we have only been wearing since the 80s.
Only 1980 is now 41 years ago. 2 coaches. That's a damn long time in the sporting world. What's the official time limit for something to become a tradition?
 
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We have one of the best (if not THE best) uniforms in CFB. Not a lot of need to tinker with it and the Alt-uni craze has kind of subsided it seems.
 
Only 1980 is now 41 years ago. 2 coaches. That's a damn long time in the sporting world. What's the official time limit for something to become a tradition?
I didn’t say it wasn’t a tradition. I said it wasn’t “good tradition” (other poster’s term).
 
I just hope they never come out of the tunnel wearing anything like Purdue's uniforms today.

There's another team with no uniform identity. They make the gophers look good.
 
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