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And they have 20 pages of posts on CF ripping a high school brother for being supportive of another brother on twitter in terms of the McCaffrey kids including calling them entitled brats and Fran and Maggie "horrible parents" yet an ISU coach does this?! Going after a HS kid on twitter cause jealous? Wow. Now I know where PsychoTwins and his minions got the idea to go after Hawk recruits on twitter. Oh and I'm sure it was just an accident. Really horrible look for ISU.
 
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Hmmm ... so, the article says:

“Welp….. that’s OK… have seen him competitively and was underwhelmed, as you know,” Hofher wrote in a tweet that was posted as a reply to Karchinski. The tweet also tagged multiple recruiting analysts, so it was quickly seen by a handful of media members and Karchinski.

But ... uh ... well, he also included in his tweet @CoachTimIowa ... who would be none other than our OL line coach Tim Polasek.

So he tweeted our OL line coach as well to tell him ... 'Well, we didn't want him any way so we didn't pursue him.'

Yeah, I wouldn't trust a staff that's sent 64 or so players to the NFL ...

Insert foot ...
 
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Rustys Dad said:
Hmmm ... so, the article says:

“Welp….. that’s OK… have seen him competitively and was underwhelmed, as you know,” Hofher wrote in a tweet that was posted as a reply to Karchinski. The tweet also tagged multiple recruiting analysts, so it was quickly seen by a handful of media members and Karchinski.

But ... uh ... well, he also included in his tweet @CoachTimIowa ... who would be none other than our OL line coach Tim Polasek.

So he tweeted our OL line coach as well to tell him ... 'Well, we didn't want him any way so we didn't pursue him.'

Yeah, I wouldn't trust a staff that's sent 64 or so players to the NFL ...

Insert foot ...
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Wow, this is pretty lame.
 
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It appears as if he meant to DM that message to someone, but accidentally tweeted it instead. All of the recruiting analysts and coaches were attached to the original tweet by Karchinski, therefore they are attached to every reply unless they are unselected. Hofher is an offensive coach, so there maybe he doesn't like the prospect, but the defensive line coach does? Either way, what a stupid mistake
 
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Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram.....they’re nothing but a trap for adults.

The risk/reward for playing the social media game is skewed heavily towards risk if you’re over 30. Because, technology.
 
spbc7 said:
It appears as if he meant to DM that message to someone, but accidentally tweeted it instead. All of the recruiting analysts and coaches were attached to the original tweet by Karchinski, therefore they are attached to every reply unless they are unselected. Hofher is an offensive coach, so there maybe he doesn't like the prospect, but the defensive line coach does? Either way, what a stupid mistake
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yeah, its more of a case of being dumb or careless than classless........Coaches talk about kids that way all the time between each other.

I suppose we think in a Hawkeye Coaching staff meeting, when a coach is reporting about a recruit and says "well no loss there, I've seen that kid play and I am just not impressed", that Captain Kirk barks at him and makes him run 5 laps around the facility for speaking unfavorably about a kid?
 
spbc7 said:
It appears as if he meant to DM that message to someone, but accidentally tweeted it instead. All of the recruiting analysts and coaches were attached to the original tweet by Karchinski, therefore they are attached to every reply unless they are unselected. Hofher is an offensive coach, so there maybe he doesn't like the prospect, but the defensive line coach does? Either way, what a stupid mistake
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That's very likely what happened. The coach didn't mean any harm, he's just a dumbass.
 
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jhawkinaz said:
yeah, its more of a case of being dumb or careless than classless........Coaches talk about kids that way all the time between each other.

I suppose we think in a Hawkeye Coaching staff meeting, when a coach is reporting about a recruit and says "well no loss there, I've seen that kid play and I am just not impressed", that Captain Kirk barks at him and makes him run 5 laps around the facility for speaking unfavorably about a kid?
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I think he was all of the above dumb, careless, AND classless. Copying someone on an e-mail or text that was not meant to see it is careless. Of course this talk goes on between coaches. I was an assistant coach DIII for 7 years and used much worse descriptions of high school players I had seen. Even had to look high school kids in the eye and tell them I didn't think they were good enough to play for us. But this? Yes, I'd include classless right along with dumb. Careless not so much because he didn't "accidentally" send it out.
 
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hawkeyeinmo said:
I think he was all of the above dumb, careless, AND classless. Copying someone on an e-mail or text that was not meant to see it is careless. Of course this talk goes on between coaches. I was an assistant coach DIII for 7 years and used much worse descriptions of high school players I had seen. Even had to look high school kids in the eye and tell them I didn't think they were good enough to play for us. But this? Yes, I'd include classless right along with dumb. Careless not so much because he didn't "accidentally" send it out.
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maybe you are right.....but I just can't get on board with the idea that this guy would do this on purpose. If all of us can see how bad it looks, then he had to be able to as well.
 
LaQuintaHawkeye said:
Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram.....they’re nothing but a trap for adults.

The risk/reward for playing the social media game is skewed heavily towards risk if you’re over 30. Because, technology.
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Disagree. Like it or not, if staffs don't at least understand social media and how to use it they can't compete. It's not rocket science, using these platforms is not difficult. I'm what is considered middle aged, and using any of the platforms you mentioned is not hard to figure out. Should we not use email too, as people send emails to the wrong person in large companies all the time?

I give KF kudos for not forcing himself onto it, but empowering his staff to make liberal use of it. I do think Kirk's Twitter ban while players are on the team is one of the wisest moves he's ever made.
 
DodgerHawki said:
Disagree. Like it or not, if staffs don't at least understand social media and how to use it they can't compete. It's not rocket science, using these platforms is not difficult. I'm what is considered middle aged, and using any of the platforms you mentioned is not hard to figure out. Should we not use email too, as people send emails to the wrong person in large companies all the time?

I give KF kudos for not forcing himself onto it, but empowering his staff to make liberal use of it. I do think Kirk's Twitter ban while players are on the team is one of the wisest moves he's ever made.
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2 fold smart move - kids don’t say dumb stuff and trolls can’t tweet players like they did the basketball team all year long.
 
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mlee3553 said:
https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-state-assistant-tweet-recruit-jim-hofher-jake-karchin
I wonder if anything will come of this? Isn't it against rules for coaches to publicly comment about specific recruits?
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pharmdfd said:
2 fold smart move - kids don’t say dumb stuff and trolls can’t tweet players like they did the basketball team all year long.
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Classic line of if you don’t say anything you don’t have to take back anything.. the players who have gone through the program are prolly grateful, the spent 3-5 years under the Iowa program never being attacked, by fans or opposing teams fans..
 
DodgerHawki said:
Disagree. Like it or not, if staffs don't at least understand social media and how to use it they can't compete. It's not rocket science, using these platforms is not difficult. I'm what is considered middle aged, and using any of the platforms you mentioned is not hard to figure out. Should we not use email too, as people send emails to the wrong person in large companies all the time?

I give KF kudos for not forcing himself onto it, but empowering his staff to make liberal use of it. I do think Kirk's Twitter ban while players are on the team is one of the wisest moves he's ever made.
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I don’t think you disagree. You actually agree with me that they should hire a 22 yr old grad student to run their social media.
 
I am Sure that he did not mean for it to be perceived the way it has, but he will pay a price.
 
Eyewejun said:
I am Sure that he did not mean for it to be perceived the way it has, but he will pay a price.
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Exactly how did he expect everyone to perceive this? More of a simple recruiting analysis? Not a personal jab at a player? Or was he simply trying to say “i’m smarter than these programs offering this kid”? There is absolutely no way an intelligent person could NOT see that this is an irresponsible act. He deserves every bit of criticism pointed at him and if i’m Cambell I’m ordering him to make a phone call to the kid to apologize for acting like a complete idiot and being such a poor representative of the ISU program.
 
hawkeyeinmo said:
Exactly how did he expect everyone to perceive this? More of a simple recruiting analysis? Not a personal jab at a player? Or was he simply trying to say “i’m smarter than these programs offering this kid”? There is absolutely no way an intelligent person could NOT see that this is not an irresponsible act. He deserves every bit of criticism pointed at him and if i’m Cambell I’m ordering him to make a phone call to the kid to apologize for acting like a complete idiot and being such a poor representative of the ISU program.
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No excuses for him.....he screwed up
 
Eyewejun said:
I think he was taking a shot at the hawks and did not realize what he posted
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It’s not what he said that is SO bad. If he’s in the coaching room or even if he’s being interviewed by a reporter and is asked about a recruit and his reply is “........I’m just not seein it”. No big deal. It’s the fact that he was stupid enough to use Twitter that shocks me. I own a business that uses social media a fair amount to promote our name. My employees know that EVERYTHING they put on Facebook, Twitter, etc better be well thought out and offensive to NOBODY. Cambell should be furious with is idiot, This is not some young inexperienced coach, hard to believe this idiot has been a head football coach! To me this says a lot about this guy. Again not the fact of what he said but that he used social media to convey it.
 
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I don’t think you disagree. You actually agree with me that they should hire a 22 yr old grad student to run their social media.
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Not really. Plenty of the Iowa assistants (Woods, Polasek, B Ferentz, Kelvin Bell, Phil Parker) are all over Twitter. Those are not 22-year olds. Organizations of any sort (including sports teams) that really value social media aren't putting 22 year old interns in charge of their social media strategy. Because it's crucial to their business. Tyler Barners, the Director of Recruiting at Iowa, has a heavy social media presence and leads Iowa's effort in these areas. He's 33. Phil Parker is 53 and he uses Twitter plenty. Because he has to in order to connect with players he's trying to get to come to Iowa.
 
DodgerHawki said:
Not really. Plenty of the Iowa assistants (Woods, Polasek, B Ferentz, Kelvin Bell, Phil Parker) are all over Twitter. Those are not 22-year olds. Organizations of any sort (including sports teams) that really value social media aren't putting 22 year old interns in charge of their social media strategy. Because it's crucial to their business. Tyler Barners, the Director of Recruiting at Iowa, has a heavy social media presence and leads Iowa's effort in these areas. He's 33. Phil Parker is 53 and he uses Twitter plenty. Because he has to in order to connect with players he's trying to get to come to Iowa.
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The day Parker screws up like the guy from IaSt just did you’ll be singing a different tune.
 
LaQuintaHawkeye said:
The day Parker screws up like the guy from IaSt just did you’ll be singing a different tune.
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I have a hard time imagining Parker using any social media with the intention of sending a private message to anyone while taking jabs at other teams, coaches, players, recruits, etc. like this guy did.

Brian? Yeah, maybe. But no way Phil is sending DMs on twitter taking jabs at anyone. If he was going to make a similar comment, he's making it in person to the staff or Kirk directly.

And what the coach said wasn't all that bad or offensive, and nothing different than after the class signs if a reporter asks why they didn't offer someone, they say they just didn't see it with him or didn't think he would fit. It's the fact that A. the coach is an idiot for not knowing how to use twitter and B. the fact that he's little brothering so hard that if a kid says he's offered (not committed) by Iowa, he has to go out of his way to comment that, "We didn't want him anyway."
 
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DodgerHawki said:
Not really. Plenty of the Iowa assistants (Woods, Polasek, B Ferentz, Kelvin Bell, Phil Parker) are all over Twitter. Those are not 22-year olds. Organizations of any sort (including sports teams) that really value social media aren't putting 22 year old interns in charge of their social media strategy. Because it's crucial to their business. Tyler Barners, the Director of Recruiting at Iowa, has a heavy social media presence and leads Iowa's effort in these areas. He's 33. Phil Parker is 53 and he uses Twitter plenty. Because he has to in order to connect with players he's trying to get to come to Iowa.
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This Iowa State coach is 60 years old and starts the tweet out with “Welp”? Welp, Jim I watched you coach for 5 years as a head coach in the MAC and I was completely underwhelmed by your 5-35 conference record. I agree with you how valuable the social media strategy is with teams and this is why Campbell should be irate with this guy.
 
LaQuintaHawkeye said:
The day Parker screws up like the guy from IaSt just did you’ll be singing a different tune.
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I don't mean to belabor the point. I just want to clarify. In a perfect world, yes, none of the Iowa assistants would have to be on social media. But it's a reality. Literally, they would not be able to recruit players needed to compete at the Big 10 level if they didn't use it. It's one of the first ways that coaches can make contact and show interest. By "following" a player on Twitter, it shows Iowa has some interest. Players and coaches can also communicate via Direct Message. It also allows the coach to monitor the player's social media usage and the things they post, which could indicate the player isn't a good fit for Iowa.

It's not everything of course. Iowa doesn't like to take a commitment until the player visits the campus. Iowa coaches take time in talking to the people surrounding the player (coaches, parents, teachers, etc.). Other programs operate the same way mostly. Very few schools are going to accept a commitment without doing their homework on a player. But the staff wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't use social media, or not as well as they could/should.

Of course it wouldn't be good if Parker or another Iowa assistant made the mistake the ISU coach did. The ISU coach in question didn't mess up because he's old or the technology is unable to be used by anyone over 30. He messed up by replying to a Tweet instead of what he intended to do which was likely email the ISU staff. The ISU coach was sloppy in not making sure he was sending his message to the right place. That's it. It doesn't mean coaches shouldn't be participating in it.
 
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