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Anthony F enrolled?

I wouldn’t waste a dime betting on that happening.
As of now, that's the plan. The oldest will have to keep his nose clean and start living the life TnT expect out of our wrestlers. If he doesn't he won't be here. He told them that this is what he wants, now he has to prove it. Hawk Nation needs to get behind the kid and let him know we want him here but we demand he be better than he has been. It's really that simple.
 
As of now, that's the plan. The oldest will have to keep his nose clean and start living the life TnT expect out of our wrestlers. If he doesn't he won't be here. He told them that this is what he wants, now he has to prove it. Hawk Nation needs to get behind the kid and let him know we want him here but we demand he be better than he has been. It's really that simple.
Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
 
Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
People are capable of changing and doing better with the right guidance. If he starts listening to the positive influences in his life he can achieve great things. If he doesn't he could absolutely end up in prison. I'm hoping for a great outcome.
 
Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
With your username, I have no doubt you're able to spot a delusional self promoting criminal.
 
People are capable of changing and doing better with the right guidance. If he starts listening to the positive influences in his life he can achieve great things. If he doesn't he could absolutely end up in prison. I'm hoping for a great outcome.
I totally agree, but can you imagine how many chances he’s already had from Oklahoma State and John Smith.
 
Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
calculating? so the past few years have all gone according to plan for him?

i hope not...because that's even worse than him just being a delusional narcissist with no self control
 
Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
I am sorry, but out of EVERYTHING he has had going on so far(mostly self inflicted), I can promise Aaron Brooks is no more than an afterthought...
 
As of now, that's the plan. The oldest will have to keep his nose clean and start living the life TnT expect out of our wrestlers. If he doesn't he won't be here. He told them that this is what he wants, now he has to prove it. Hawk Nation needs to get behind the kid and let him know we want him here but we demand he be better than he has been. It's really that simple.
if he takes a swing at a teammate and flips off the entire crowd even ONE MORE TIME...he's outta here!

a strict zero minimal tolerance policy*

*to be reviewed after any future infractions
 
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As much a Is hate to say this, I may be in the give him another chance boat.

I watched his antics after the SS and I also so the social media presentation of it. Social media and regular media sure do have a way of making things look way worse than they are. Those still shot photos make it seem like he was in the splits for hours and that is where he practically lives.

He lost his head again and let his temper get the best of him. I am sure I did worse things than that when I was younger, but now with social media and all the virtue signaling people in the world, we stand ready to judge and prosecute anyone we can.

That being said, I am glad he isn't representing my team (not that I have one) or my company, but in 10 years he may look back and say the 2nd/3rd chance given to me by the Brands brothers was the turning point in his life.
 
As much a Is hate to say this, I may be in the give him another chance boat.

I watched his antics after the SS and I also so the social media presentation of it. Social media and regular media sure do have a way of making things look way worse than they are. Those still shot photos make it seem like he was in the splits for hours and that is where he practically lives.

He lost his head again and let his temper get the best of him. I am sure I did worse things than that when I was younger, but now with social media and all the virtue signaling people in the world, we stand ready to judge and prosecute anyone we can.

That being said, I am glad he isn't representing my team (not that I have one) or my company, but in 10 years he may look back and say the 2nd/3rd chance given to me by the Brands brothers was the turning point in his life.
Did you ever take a swipe at an opponent you just beat and slap a ref instead?
 
i've done way worse than that, but not worse than what may have happened to the girl.anybody ever been to a meet at carver knows the crowd wants to be part of the show, they got what they wanted.
Worse than that while on double, super-secret probation?
 
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Aj is very calculating. He prob pulled this shit to have a ligit excuse to bypass this yr because he knows hes not close to A brooks. Kid is a delusional self promoting criminal in my eyes. Ticking time bomb that this program will pay the price for.
With getting such a late start after such a long layoff, 3rd may have been realistic. If he wants 3 more championships, waiting until next year is best bet. Probably better for Anthony to redshirt and be 157 next year instead of sucking so much weight are being away from wrestling for 2 years. This seems obvious to us, but they have insane smog confidence.
 
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With getting such a late start after such a long layoff, 3rd may have been realistic. If he wants 3 more championships, waiting until next year is best bet. Probably better for Anthony to redshirt and be 157 next year instead of sucking so much weight are being away from wrestling for 2 years. This seems obvious to us, but they have insane smog confidence.
No way AJ has 3 more years after this season.
 
That assumes you take old man Chittum at his word.

People are capable of changing and doing better with the right guidance. If he starts listening to the positive influences in his life he can achieve great things. If he doesn't he could absolutely end up in prison. I'm hoping for a great outcome.
and if he continues to listen to the biggest influence in his life, his dad, are you also prepared for the negative influence he will have on the Iowa Program? AJ is what he is and a coach who thinks he can change 20+ years of programing is either delusional or just desperate.
 
and if he continues to listen to the biggest influence in his life, his dad, are you also prepared for the negative influence he will have on the Iowa Program? AJ is what he is and a coach who thinks he can change 20+ years of programing is either delusional or just desperate.
Actually, that makes him neither delusional nor desperate; it makes him pretty typical actually. I've seen this countless times over the last 30 or so years where a law firm brings in a perceived big hitter with known or obvious 'difficult' characteristics. Implicit in the decision is always the idea that "we can change him/her in our great culture". But real life doesnt really work that way when it comes to these types. As they say, beauty is only skin deep, but ugliness goes right to the core.
 
As of now, that's the plan. The oldest will have to keep his nose clean and start living the life TnT expect out of our wrestlers. If he doesn't he won't be here. He told them that this is what he wants, now he has to prove it. Hawk Nation needs to get behind the kid and let him know we want him here but we demand he be better than he has been. It's really that simple.

Yeah. The chances of this happening are super close to nil.
 
Actually, that makes him neither delusional nor desperate; it makes him pretty typical actually. I've seen this countless times over the last 30 or so years where a law firm brings in a perceived big hitter with known or obvious 'difficult' characteristics. Implicit in the decision is always the idea that "we can change him/her in our great culture". But real life doesnt really work that way when it comes to these types. As they say, beauty is only skin deep, but ugliness goes right to the core.
it reads that tom is the one who is both delusional and desperate…AJ is simply a narcissist.
 
it reads that tom is the one who is both delusional and desperate…AJ is simply a narcissist.
It does; my point is you don’t have to be delusional or desperate to make personnel decisions that are obviously bad to everyone but yourself
 
As much a Is hate to say this, I may be in the give him another chance boat.

I watched his antics after the SS and I also so the social media presentation of it. Social media and regular media sure do have a way of making things look way worse than they are. Those still shot photos make it seem like he was in the splits for hours and that is where he practically lives.

He lost his head again and let his temper get the best of him. I am sure I did worse things than that when I was younger, but now with social media and all the virtue signaling people in the world, we stand ready to judge and prosecute anyone we can.

That being said, I am glad he isn't representing my team (not that I have one) or my company, but in 10 years he may look back and say the 2nd/3rd chance given to me by the Brands brothers was the turning point in his life.
nope
 
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The ferraris are a nightmare that wont go away. I thought after SS it was thankfully done. Nope not with tnt at helm. This fam will do more damage to the program than help. Id rather get 2-3-4th without them than win it with them which is still a long shot with them. Tnt need to pull head out of ass and move on. Do their job and recruit well and develop good kids. This is the only shitshow around right now because of the Fierros! Time to move on with a long gameplan to bring it back right. Not with dipshit hired guns that already have driven off good kids im sure not to mention chittum.

They are not winning it with or without them. So then it becomes does their presence hurt the program further than Chittum? Crappy recruiting up front is why they are down this road in the first place. That needs to get sorted ASAP. Lineup planning to go along with identifying, pursuing and signing high end highschool talent. If (that is a very big if) AJ and Anthony can be well behaved members of the team who are respectful of their teammates and the fans without causing controversy then their presence probably won't have much negative effect.

Others have stated that getting champs and winning big matches is about as big as the recruiting and goes hand in hand. I agree, If they behave and you get a few titles between AJ and Angelo then it becomes good move. Nothing against Anthony but I need to see more from him to even talk AA.

If the whole thing implodes, they jump ship, bad PR, no titles, no chittum, recruiting still a problem then it's a big blunder.
 
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It does; my point is you don’t have to be delusional or desperate to make personnel decisions that are obviously bad to everyone but yourself
Ask yourself this:
AJF
Would you hire him to eork for you?
Would you let him date your daughter or sister
Would you let your son hang out with him
Would you recommend him to a friend for anything
Would you want him as a teammate
Would you want him to teach/coach your kid

But yet desperate tnt love him! 3 peas in a pod
 
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They are not winning it with or without them. So then it becomes does their presence hurt the program further than Chittum? Crappy recruiting up front is why they are down this road in the first place. That needs to get sorted ASAP. Lineup planning to go along with identifying, pursuing and signing high end highschool talent. If (that is a very big if) AJ and Anthony can be well behaved members of the team who are respectful of their teammates and the fans without causing controversy then their presence probably won't have much negative effect.

Others have stated that getting champs and winning big matches is about as big as the recruiting and goes hand in hand. I agree, If they behave and you get a few titles between AJ and Angelo then it becomes good move. Nothing against Anthony but I need to see more from him to even talk AA.

If the whole thing implodes, they jump ship, bad PR, no titles, no chittum, recruiting still a problem then it's a big blunder.
We’ ll see how long chittum stays at Iowa state if he is as good as advertised.
 
Ask yourself this:
AJF
Would you hire him to eork for you?
Would you let him date your daughter or sister
Would you let your son hang out with him
Would you recommend him to a friend for anything
Would you want him as a teammate
Would you want him to teach/coach your kid

But yet desperate tnt love him! 3 peas in a pod
I would hire him to wrestle for me, which is what this is about
 
Ask yourself this:
AJF
Would you hire him to eork for you?
Would you let him date your daughter or sister
Would you let your son hang out with him
Would you recommend him to a friend for anything
Would you want him as a teammate
Would you want him to teach/coach your kid

But yet desperate tnt love him! 3 peas in a pod
Why TF do you even care? This is a win-win for you, either they behave themselves and wrestle for Iowa and we likely compete for championships. Or they don’t behave and TnT likely get fired because of it, which you seem to be a big proponent for anyways. Where’s the downside for you?
 
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Why TF do you even care? This is a win-win for you, either they behave themselves and wrestle for Iowa and we likely compete for championships. Or they don’t behave and TnT likely get fired because of it, which you seem to be a big proponent for anyways. Where’s the downside for you?
3 peas in a pod TTAJ.

To answer your dipshit question….because i care about the future of this program. New leadership needed badly! New AD too if she accepts AJ
 
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