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I think you'll be surprised by the wr corps this year.. Smith and vanderburg will be the main. With scheel McCarron and Parker playing their roles and then sneaking in Boyle ogwu and Nash. I haven't heard much about falconer
I really liked what I saw of Scheel along with Boyle. I think we may be deeper at WR than most think. I am much less concerned after Saturday.
I honestly don't know how good the group will or wont be but I do think this: Matt Vadenberg will go down as one of the most underrated WR's we ever had. Very Ed Hinkelish, maybe better. I also think the number one thing this team had been missing over the last several years was, passion, hunger, desire and internal peer leadership. I know people get frustrated thinking about those kind of things because its so hard to quantify intangible influences, but they exist regardless. Point being, almost every interview I saw during last season and the over-arching theme I hear this off-season is leadership and pushing each other. Coupled with some head scratching things we've heard in recent years about team effort, some isolated individual efforts and chemistry, well.....it's not hard to look back and wonder?!
I say that to say this, I think some quality WR's will ultimately emerge because I get the impression between CJ, Vandy and the things Scheel and others have said, they will be pushing themselves to the limit all summer.
I say that to say this, I think some quality WR's will ultimately emerge because I get the impression between CJ, Vandy and the things Scheel and others have said, they will be pushing themselves to the limit all summer.
I'm telling you all now the receiving corps will not be a weakness next year. By the start of Big10 play posters on this board will be talking about how nobody can stop our passing game.
IMO, the biggest question mark will be can one or two of these wide receivers gain separation consistently. That has been the issue with the Iowa passing game for a while now. No defense has had to worry about Iowa's vertical passing game cause no Iowa receiver could gain separation and were always able to be covered one-on-one.
If one of these receivers can step up and make opposing defenses adjust and game plan to stop them, can you imagine how much that will open up the run game and Kittle running open down the seam? Not to mention a healthy Beathard making plays with his legs.
If one of these receivers can step up and make opposing defenses adjust and game plan to stop them, can you imagine how much that will open up the run game and Kittle running open down the seam? Not to mention a healthy Beathard making plays with his legs.
Agreed. Jerminic Smith, Vandy, and Kittle are going to shine this year. Maybe, Boyle will light it up as well....
I sure hope you are right because that would mean our running game will be unstoppable.
That wasn't on CJ for the most part. He got sacked 30 times last year with 10 of those in the final 2 games.
Definitely true, playing devils advocate though, football is such a funny bird. Ohio St is getting ready to send 12 plus kids to the NFL and yet they gained 142 yards vs MSU. Sometimes all the game planning and all the scheming in the world breakdown and it comes to want to and physicality!
Per the separation thought. That ultimately comes down to release off the line, route identification, knowing your QB/chemistry and knowing where the holes in the defense are. Also the ability to sell your route, start stop, sink your hips, explode out of your break, etc....
In short it's not a speed thing it's a quickness/technician thing.
That & by the end of the year he was severely limited healthwise. But the cool thing to me is he can definitely continue to improve.
I am mildly concerned.. Tevaun could take the top off the defense last year. I presume there will be a lot more bumping off the line of scrimmage from B10 defenses this year.. I hope the WR's have been spending a lot of time in the weight room with doyle
I'm not concerned at all! Vandy will be great, Kittle will be targeted more and I think Smith, Sheel, Parker etc are all improving. Can the line continue to improve their pass protection is a larger area of concern, for me anyway. And CJ staying healthy and extending plays will help as well! Plus, if we have a good to great running game it will make our WR better.
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CJ will be the best QB in the country next year. Don't worry about him. No QB throws well without some semblance of protection, thus the emphasis on pass blocking this spring. A healthy CJ and some decent protection...I pity the fools who will continually fail while trying to contain this Iowa offense.
According to this site he will be likely #2 behind Chad Kelly of Ole Miss.Draft prospectus anyway. Desmond ranked #1 CB by the same site.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/QB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/CB
I love the Hawks and I hope you're right about our receivers. Smith was our best back up last year and while he flashed against IL my guess is he's got almost as many drops as catches. We've got 1 TE this year and some guys with potential but not catches.
If our receivers can run the right routes, not have excessive drops, and block enough to keep the run game healthy I'll be pleased.
A healthy CJ will make our receivers better as we know he can buy time to help them get free. I'm in the not paniced group, but to expect anything more then okay from our receivers is reserved for true kool aid drinkers IMO.
If our receivers can run the right routes, not have excessive drops, and block enough to keep the run game healthy I'll be pleased.
A healthy CJ will make our receivers better as we know he can buy time to help them get free. I'm in the not paniced group, but to expect anything more then okay from our receivers is reserved for true kool aid drinkers IMO.
Right on! Everyone thinks it's speed. Speed has very little to do with it. Physicality of the line and in and out of breaks. It's not the NFL where you can't touch them after 5 yards. Our corners and safeties are very physical. They will be going against the best db's in the B1G all summer and fall. MVB, Scheel, McCarron, and Smith will be ready and very solid. AP, Falconer, and Boyle are all wildcards at this point, but potential is there. The key to our zone running players is there ability to block. MVB and McCarron are ready. Scheel got blown up by Taylor and Snyder in the running game on Saturday. T Smith, MVB, and Hillyar were excellent blockers last year. TE is a bigger concern for me. Besides Kittle I have not been overly impressed.
I feel like they will have TE emerge, but I've also felt we will have several true Frosh play this year, including 2-TEs. On the Snyder/Taylor thought. I was very impressed with the jump Taylor took this spring. What was your impression of Snyder?
I like how both of them read and react. They both come down ill in a hurry and punish rb's. I like Snyder's size as we've had smallish safeties especially on teh Kittle type TE's. Taylor and Lomax are 5'9 at best. His coverage of TE's was really good Saturday. Our safeties rarely are matched one on one with a receiver. I think both may struggle on an island with an Alan Lazard type, but with the college rules they both are so physical with their receivers that they may not get a chance to run by them. I love the balance we have with Niemann and our corners being so good in coverage and Jewell, Mends, Snyder snd Taylor knocking your head off.
Agree with your overall thoughts, though I didn't notice Snyder as much, I did not his athleticism and ability to run. I also noted he wasn't out of position or "exposed". We've had that before, Johnny Lowdermilk was a decent safety but took bad angles and made poor reads often. It is still all going to come down to this summer and their team desire and chemistry. The Talent is there...
Agreed. (Assume you meant JP, not AP) I really hope Outsey gets the passion. His size in impressive.
Excellent post CM. I had to respond. You're dead on with the leadership of this and last year's team. And I can only hope it continues. I think MVB plays a huge role in this as does CJ.
Also, I was going to respond to a comment Swag made on another thread about our receivers. While it's true we have not placed many WR's in the NFL, I hope some recruits begin to look at the numbers of a Vandy. It's not like we're not throwing the ball. That kid is active.
I'm convinced Eno B made an exceptional decision to run behind our line. I think it's just a matter of time until WR's start to figure this out as well.
Finally, I'll be shocked if this group of WR's doesn't impress by year's end. I hope 100% of them can maintain exceptional effort needed to continue our exceptional progress.
Something failed somewhere if Mitch Leidner is the 5th best QB prospect next year
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This is the year that Iowa's lack of wide receiver recruiting in the last four years catches up to them although I hope I am wrong. Below is Iowa's last five recruiting classes with the wide receivers listed. Really only one guy on the entire list has contributed thus far in their career. Jerminic Smith has contributed some as a freshmen, but other than that not many proven guys coming into this year. Iowa really hasn't taken many wide receivers in the last few classes and I think it will show on the field this year.
2012: Tevaun Smith, Cameron Wilson
2013: Anjeus Jones, Damond Powell, Matt VandeBerg, Derrick Willlies, Andre Harris, Jonathan Parker
2014: Jay Scheel
2015: Adrian Falconer, Jerminic Smith, Emmanuel Ogwo
2016: Devonte Young
2012: Tevaun Smith, Cameron Wilson
2013: Anjeus Jones, Damond Powell, Matt VandeBerg, Derrick Willlies, Andre Harris, Jonathan Parker
2014: Jay Scheel
2015: Adrian Falconer, Jerminic Smith, Emmanuel Ogwo
2016: Devonte Young
I should have clarified. I meant of the guys that are on the team this coming year.
You do know about CJ's sports hernia, righr? It is only his extreme toughness that kept him on the field.
