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Anyone who says Woody still sucks

I stopped paying attention to the Woody bashers years ago. Good to see a lot of people on here changing their mind about him. I hope he continues to improve like he has. His rebounding has really improved this year. He still leads this team in fg% despite the bad layup misses which are becoming less frequent. But he also knocks down some 8-14 footers that tend to get ignored on here.
 
He's played really well this year. The defense struggled tonight with him on the bench, same with the Rutgers game. Is it just me, or does he seem to pick up the cheapest fouls you've ever seen? Every game he gets called for a moving screen. Thought the one tonight was a bad call.
 
He plainly beat Stone and Carter inside, by himself. He is defensive gold and the reason (with Clemmons)this game was close.
 
Was nice to hear dakich and the other guy recognize woodys positive contribution tonight and I think woody has a lot of good ball left this year
 
Can gtfo. The occasional missed layup sucks but if you don't understand his contributions after a night like tonight, not sure what to tell ya.

It's going to be tough to replace him next year. He offers so much more than a lot of people think. Of all the seniors, though, Clemmons is overlooked the most. His D every game is amazing and he basically shut down Tremble the whole game. He's going to be tough to replace, too.
 
yeah, he does a lot for this team defensively...no doubt about it.

still, it would be great if he'd just stop missing layups.
 
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He's played really well this year. The defense struggled tonight with him on the bench, same with the Rutgers game. Is it just me, or does he seem to pick up the cheapest fouls you've ever seen? Every game he gets called for a moving screen. Thought the one tonight was a bad call.
The last 2 foul calls were b.s.. When Woody went out with the 4th foul, our defense inside the paint fell apart. Woody makes everybody better when he is out there. I can't feel too bad though, on a night where Uthoff didn't have it at all, and Baer couldn't hit a shot either, we hang in there right to the end. On top of that Uhl went cold in the second half and and Mike missed the front end of a 1 an 1. That isn't going to happen very often, we will be fine.
 
5/6 from field and 9 rebounds...following a double double vs Purdue. I don't think Woody would have been criticized in past if he had put up those type numbers. He's always been solid, but he's taking it to new level right now.
 
He sets some very important screens every game and gives up his body doing it too. Did anyone else notice everytime when he went to the bench he immediately urged the rest of the guys to step it up and tried to up the energy level?

There is so much positive he does that still doesn't get talked about it shocks me. He's worked so hard to improve his game it's down right impossible to figure out how so called Iowa fans #1 sport is to bash him.
 
5/6 from field and 9 rebounds...following a double double vs Purdue. I don't think Woody would have been criticized in past if he had put up those type numbers. He's always been solid, but he's taking it to new level right now.
Not trying to rag on Woody, he had a good overall game, but those "stats" don't really tell the story, especially early in the game. He missed a bunnie getting fouled, had a clear path to the basket on a great pass and fumbled it out of bounds, and missed another 1 ft shot. I think he scored 5-6 points and gave away 6 of the easiest points you'll ever get in a Basketball game. But that's who he is and always has been. Smooth on occasion, clumsy at other times. He's had a good year for sure and his play sure didn't cause this loss.

The good news is Iowa looked absolutely HORRIBLE tonight, and were still in the game the entire way. That's the lone bright spot. A good team buries us by 20+ if we have another one of these clunkers. Fortunately they didn't shoot all that great either on their Home Court. I think Iowa at home puts it on these Terps. Not worried about facing them again if we see them later.
 
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The stats I saw had Woody with his 3rd straight double double, 5 of 6 shooting, and as I recall the pass was pretty low to a big man diving to the basket. He did miss a bunny but got fouled on it.

You're right about the ststs not telling the story
 
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The stats I saw had Woody with his 3rd straight double double, 5 of 6 shooting, and as I recall the pass was pretty low to a big man diving to the basket. He did miss a bunny but got fouled on it.

You're right about the stats not telling the story
They don't tell anything about his defense, energy, etc. that was critical in keeping the game in reach.
 
Gesell is bad at the end of every big game. He has no marbles.
I used to have a handle on here called "Gary's Dolphins". I got the ban hammer for swearing after Willies left and now spend 99% of my time on here in the Lounge. Anyway, the name thing is cool, but for the sake of the reputation please don't be a tool.
 
I never thought I would say it, but Woodbury is the leader / heart and soul of this team. Agree with what others have said about the stats, but more impressive to me is his fire the past few games. He has taken charge on and off the floor and with little support last night, managed to give us a much needed physical presence down low.
 
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Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

He is a turnover machine and misses so many FTs late in big games throughout his career. I'm not saying he isn't an attribute to the team, but it so frustrating that Fran lets him take so much control at the end of games. He isn't a clutch player, but that isn't saying he isn't benefiting the team overall. North Carolina was an anomaly.
 
He is a turnover machine and misses so many FTs late in big games throughout his career. I'm not saying he isn't an attribute to the team, but it so frustrating that Fran lets him take so much control at the end of games. He isn't a clutch player, but that isn't saying he isn't benefiting the team overall. North Carolina was an anomaly.

Even as you attempt to walk back your previously incorrect statement, you still remain incorrect. Thanks again for playing. A player who has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio is not a turnover machine. Keep trying though and keep walking this one back.
 
Even as you attempt to walk back your previously incorrect statement, you still remain incorrect. Thanks again for playing. A player who has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio is not a turnover machine. Keep trying though and keep walking this one back.
I'm not walking anything back. I am talking at the end of games and I have always been. If you want to take things out of context to say I'm wrong, OK.
 
Even as you attempt to walk back your previously incorrect statement, you still remain incorrect. Thanks again for playing. A player who has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio is not a turnover machine. Keep trying though and keep walking this one back.

It was a 5:1 ratio just two weeks ago. Last 3 games for Gesell haven't been good. Maryland game 4 TO and 1 assist. Not the reason we lost, but Clemmons outplaying him right now.
 
It was a 5:1 ratio just two weeks ago. Last 3 games for Gesell haven't been good. Maryland game 4 TO and 1 assist. Not the reason we lost, but Clemmons outplaying him right now.

Oh, there's no question Mike has had a tough stretch of games lately and his play has diminished and if you pay attention you will remember that at the the decline happened right at the time when he had his issue with a hamstring and a rolled ankle against Rutgers. Some times these things explain themselves pretty easily. Just needs to get back to being healthy because he was playing very well before the injuries occurred.
 
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Statistically, Clemmons is outplaying MG right now. However, I think the point guard role in Fran's offense is not to score. If you watch Clemmons play at the point when Mike is out, he is a different player and not nearly as aggressive with trying to score. I still would like to see MG stop driving to the basket and end up with the ball going the other direction and him laying on the floor. Clemmons has experienced this same thing, he is just a little stronger and quicker so it doesn't look as bad. MG is doing what the coaches tell him IMO, however, I wish Fran would change his strategy in the last 2-4 minutes and run the offense instead of the MG dribble show
 
I'm not walking anything back. I am talking at the end of games and I have always been. If you want to take things out of context to say I'm wrong, OK.

And again, that would be incorrect. Keep trying though and I admire your effort. You said he is bad at the end of every big game. That's a false statement. Then you walked it back to say, well except the UNC game.And that is still incorrect by the way.
 
The stats I saw had Woody with his 3rd straight double double, 5 of 6 shooting, and as I recall the pass was pretty low to a big man diving to the basket. He did miss a bunny but got fouled on it.

You're right about the ststs not telling the story
Yeah, that turnover was as much on Clemmons, the bounce pass to Woody was way too low. Good idea, poor execution.
 
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^^^^ Add one more observation that the pass was too low. ^^^^

And a general statement regarding the thread. Adam Woodbury has been an asset to the Hawkeye since he arrived and no one has worked harder to be the best player he could be than Adam. Many guys on the Hawkeyes have worked just as hard. And that is what makes this team win games.
 
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