Are liberals control freaks?

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.


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[naturalmwa]

I thought we were takers and unwashed beggars. You're giving me an identity crisis.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I thought we were takers and unwashed beggars. You're giving me an identity crisis.

Not if you nationalized them and made all kids check in for 18 years.-Naturalmwa whilst speaking on getting boarding schools to stop being racially biased.



What are poster's opinions of plans that would give the government the authority to forcibly break up big corporations?-Naturalmwa
These quotes should help you find yourself.

 

[INXS83]

Is the sky blue on a clear afternoon?

 

[naturalmwa]

Oh, so I post about me? Yes I'm a control freak, I could teach all 50 shades of gray and the whole rainbow too.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by naturalmwa:
Oh, so I post about me? Yes I'm a control freak, I could teach all 50 shades of gray and the whole rainbow too.

Now, now. I didn't type those words I quoted from you. You were having an identity crisis, "I chose" to help you. 50 Shades of Grey is all about control by the way. It's not very PC and empowering to women. Why are you reading that? It doesn't fit your character......well it fits the control part of your character, but it's downright sexist. It also encourages mysoginistic tendecies and encourages women to just deal with them, and even like them, if one is to be honest.
This post was edited on 3/13 11:30 AM by Aegon_Targaryen

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Absolutely. Let me count (some of) the ways:

I don't like people shooting bullets at me. I want to control that.

I don't like people dumping toxic wastes in the sources my drinking water comes from. I want to control that.

I don't like corruption in government or in our election process. I want to control that.

My question to you and your source is "why do you think murder, poisoning our water supply and corruption are 'freedoms' or 'rights' that should be unfettered?"

Needless to say, I could have come up with pages of things I want to control that most reasonable people - including you - would completely agree with.

This is like the atheism debates we have here. Most people here reject all but 1 god; atheists merely reject 1 more. Similarly, most people here accept lots of "control." Some support controlling a few more things.

Nor is it necessarily the case that it is liberals who favor more control. Conservatives want to exercise various controls over women (no abortion) and gays (no marriage) and sex acts (no prostitution, pornography, sodomy) and more. Conservatives want to assert controls that will have the effect of reducing democratic participation (voter IDs). Conservatives more than liberals want to control citizens who have been arrested and served their sentence by denying them their right to vote or to own guns. Conservatives more than liberals want to deny people the right to vote with their feet (immigration restrictions and fences). And so on.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Absolutely. Let me count (some of) the ways:

I don't like people shooting bullets at me. I want to control that.

Can't control that, but YOU CAN shoot back.

I don't like people dumping toxic wastes in the sources my drinking water comes from. I want to control that.

Fair enough, I agree with that.

I don't like corruption in government or in our election process. I want to control that.

Well it's there, and it's on both sides,...you don't have to control something that isn't there.....

My question to you and your source is "why do you think murder, poisoning our water supply and corruption are 'freedoms' or 'rights' that should be unfettered?"

Needless to say, I could have come up with pages of things I want to control that most reasonable people - including you - would completely agree with.

This is like the atheism debates we have here. Most people here reject all but 1 god; atheists merely reject 1 more. Similarly, most people here accept lots of "control." Some support controlling a few more things.

Nor is it necessarily the case that it is liberals who favor more control. Conservatives want to exercise various controls over women (no abortion) and gays (no marriage) and sex acts (no prostitution, pornography, sodomy) and more. Conservatives want to assert controls that will have the effect of reducing democratic participation (voter IDs). Conservatives more than liberals want to control citizens who have been arrested and served their sentence by denying them their right to vote or to own guns. Conservatives more than liberals want to deny people the right to vote with their feet (immigration restrictions and fences). And so on.

I never said CONS don't have their control issues my friend, I simply pointed out the control the Liberals want to have.

So breaking down what you typed here,...... you're not all that different are ya?

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

Can't it be argued the modern liberal progressive wants to be controlled? (and therefore is not a control freak) They consistently vote for more and more regulation that limits their individual control - so it appears they are by nature subservient.

 

[aflachawk]

Originally posted by What W...us Do?:
Absolutely.  Let me count (some of) the ways:

I don't like people shooting bullets at me.  I want to control that.

I don't like people dumping toxic wastes in the sources my drinking water comes from.  I want to control that.

I don't like corruption in government or in our election process.  I want to control that.

My question to you and your source is "why do you think murder, poisoning our water supply and corruption are 'freedoms' or 'rights' that should be unfettered?"

Needless to say, I could have come up with pages of things I want to control that most reasonable people - including you - would completely agree with.

This is like the atheism debates we have here.  Most people here reject all but 1 god; atheists merely reject 1 more.  Similarly, most people here accept lots of "control."  Some support controlling a few more things. 

Nor is it necessarily the case that it is liberals who favor more control.  Conservatives want to exercise various controls over women (no abortion) and gays (no marriage) and sex acts (no prostitution, pornography, sodomy) and more.  Conservatives want to assert controls that will have the effect of reducing democratic participation (voter IDs).  Conservatives more than liberals want to control citizens who have been arrested and served their sentence by denying them their right to vote or to own guns.  Conservatives more than liberals want to deny people the right to vote with their feet (immigration restrictions and fences).  And so on.

I was nodding yes right up to the last paragraph. Voter ID mostly controls fraudulent voting. There is no proof it lowers voting. It may have the opposite effect. Felons getting guns? You're kidding right? Hell yes I want to control that. Don't you? Then( saving the best for last) voting with your feet? What the hell is that. When have Mexicans who are not citizens had the right to vote? I assume by your statement you want zero control of our own borders, right? If millions of Americans want to vote with their feet and cross into Mexico, I have no problem with that. I do the other war around, however.
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[naturalmwa]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Now, now. I didn't type those words I quoted from you. You were having an identity crisis, "I chose" to help you. 50 Shades of Grey is all about control by the way. It's not very PC and empowering to women. Why are you reading that? It doesn't fit your character......well it fits the control part of your character, but it's downright sexist. It also encourages mysoginistic tendecies and encourages women to just deal with them, and even like them, if one is to be honest.
This post was edited on 3/13 11:30 AM by Aegon_Targaryen

I get the impression you haven't dabbled in much BDSM play. It's emphases on individual agency, breaking norms and prioritizing the mental parts of intimacy are more like the solution to sexist attitudes. You should spend some time in a dungon, you'll see control freaks are very much in demand. If you need pointers, I'm here for you.

 

[nowalkin]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:


Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

 

[nowalkin]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:


Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

 

[IMCC965]

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:


Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

This is 100% correct.

 

[nowalkin]

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:



Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

This is 100% correct.

Which party says...


No, you may not have a say in whether or not to keep your baby...that's our decision!No, you may not speak another language in this country!No, you may not wear the clothes you want to wear...we decide what's acceptable!No, you may not protest (unless it's for our causes).No, you may not sneak into this country, unless I need cheap labor for my company.

 

[hawkbleeder]

They certainly act like control freaks...I think being intellectually lazy and gutless has more to do with why they're libs in the first place though. It's the path of least resistance to be a lib. You say you care (cause you do) and everybody pats you on the back for it, that's it. Not a bad gig. It doesn't matter that the ideas don't work...that's not the point. The lib feels good and superior.

 

[aflachawk]

Originally posted by nowalkin:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:




Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

This is 100% correct.

Which party says...




No, you may not have a say in whether or not to keep your baby...that's our decision!
No, you may not speak another language in this country!
No, you may not wear the clothes you want to wear...we decide what's acceptable!
No, you may not protest (unless it's for our causes).
No, you may not sneak into this country, unless I need cheap labor for my company.

1) we do not say that...We do say, however, we do say you may not KILL your baby. (I know to a Dem killing a baby is a mothers right)

2) neither party says this, however, even BHO says new citizens should speak the language. In addition, since it is the language of the country doesn't it make sense they should know it?

3) I have never heard any Republican say this

4) Again, only the left says this. The left also shuts down speech on college campi it does not like. BHO is all about taking away speech also. The left loves also Campaign Finance reform that limits speech. That's a Dem thing not a Republican thing.

5) Again the Republicans do not say this.


You are woefully uninformed. Its no wonder you vote Democratic.

 

[jthawk]

Originally posted by aflachawk:

Originally posted by nowalkin:

Originally posted by IMCC965:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:




Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.

This is 100% correct.

Which party says...




No, you may not have a say in whether or not to keep your baby...that's our decision!
No, you may not speak another language in this country!
No, you may not wear the clothes you want to wear...we decide what's acceptable!
No, you may not protest (unless it's for our causes).
No, you may not sneak into this country, unless I need cheap labor for my company.

1) we do not say that...We do say, however, we do say you may not KILL your baby.  (I know to a Dem killing a baby is a mothers right)

2) neither party says this, however, even BHO says new citizens should speak the language.  In addition, since it is the language of the country  doesn't it make sense they should know it?

3) I have never heard any Republican say this

4) Again, only the left says this.  The left also shuts down speech on college campi it does not like.  BHO is all about taking away speech also. The left loves also Campaign Finance reform that limits speech.  That's a Dem thing not a Republican thing.

5) Again the Republicans do not say this.


You are woefully uninformed.  Its no wonder you vote Democratic. 

+1. It was a weak, laughable attempt.
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[THE_DEVIL]

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Absolutely. Let me count (some of) the ways:

I don't like people shooting bullets at me. I want to control that.

Can't control that, but YOU CAN shoot back.

So now I as a bystander have TWO f***ing idiots shooting guns where I am?

Yep. Just remember after the shooting starts to get down on the ground with arms extended and flat to the ground so that when the cops show up THEY don't shoot you.

 

[naturalmwa]

Originally posted by THE_DEVIL:

Originally posted by FlickShagwell:

Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:

Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
Absolutely. Let me count (some of) the ways:

I don't like people shooting bullets at me. I want to control that.

Can't control that, but YOU CAN shoot back.

So now I as a bystander have TWO f***ing idiots shooting guns where I am?

Yep. Just remember after the shooting starts to get down on the ground with arms extended and flat to the ground so that when the cops show up THEY don't shoot you.

I'm not sure recent history shows that to be effective.

 

[KennyPowers_96]

Originally posted by hawkbleeder:
They certainly act like control freaks...I think being intellectually lazy and gutless has more to do with why they're libs in the first place though. It's the path of least resistance to be a lib. You say you care (cause you do) and everybody pats you on the back for it, that's it. Not a bad gig. It doesn't matter that the ideas don't work...that's not the point. The lib feels good and superior.

Isn't blindly follow a party line (either side) the definition of being gutless and intellectually lazy?

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[joelbc1]

Aegon...I think if you changed "liberals/progressives" to "corporatists" you would be much more accurate. I don't think control of others, their actions and their thoughts is as important to liberals and progressives as it is to those of the corporatist persuasion. I would bet that liberals/progressives desire control over others as much as conservatives do.

 

[sijoint]

Originally posted by joelbc1:
Aegon...I think if you changed "liberals/progressives" to "corporatists" you would be much more accurate. I don't think control of others, their actions and their thoughts is as important to liberals and progressives as it is to those of the corporatist persuasion. I would bet that liberals/progressives desire control over others as much as conservatives do.

Yeh, corprations and Republicans are the control freaks.

This post was edited on 3/15 10:44 AM by sijoint

This post was edited on 3/15 10:53 AM by sijoint

 

[naturalmwa]

Originally posted by sijoint:

Originally posted by joelbc1:
Aegon...I think if you changed "liberals/progressives" to "corporatists" you would be much more accurate. I don't think control of others, their actions and their thoughts is as important to liberals and progressives as it is to those of the corporatist persuasion. I would bet that liberals/progressives desire control over others as much as conservatives do.

Yeh, corprations and Republicans are the control freaks.

This post was edited on 3/15 10:44 AM by sijoint

This post was edited on 3/15 10:53 AM by sijoint

That was fun, tell us of more things that never happened.

 

[sijoint]

Originally posted by naturalmwa:

Originally posted by sijoint:

Originally posted by joelbc1:
Aegon...I think if you changed "liberals/progressives" to "corporatists" you would be much more accurate. I don't think control of others, their actions and their thoughts is as important to liberals and progressives as it is to those of the corporatist persuasion. I would bet that liberals/progressives desire control over others as much as conservatives do.

Yeh, corprations and Republicans are the control freaks.

This post was edited on 3/15 10:44 AM by sijoint

This post was edited on 3/15 10:53 AM by sijoint

That was fun, tell us of more things that never happened.

Democrats/ liberals keep trying and trying......I could keep posting these example all day long.....if I had the time.

 

[naturalmwa]

Originally posted by sijoint: Democrats/ liberals keep trying and trying......I could keep posting these example all day long.....if I had the time.

That looks like way too much sugar. Double the veggies, halve the grains and fruit.

 

[joelbc1]

Originally posted by sijoint:

Originally posted by joelbc1:
Aegon...I think if you changed "liberals/progressives" to "corporatists" you would be much more accurate. I don't think control of others, their actions and their thoughts is as important to liberals and progressives as it is to those of the corporatist persuasion. I would bet that liberals/progressives desire control over others as much as conservatives do.

Yeh, corprations and Republicans are the control freaks.

This post was edited on 3/15 10:44 AM by sijoint

This post was edited on 3/15 10:53 AM by sijoint

I don't know about Republicans....but "yes" on the corporations. Now, government...be it Republican OR Democrat is but another corporation. This Administration is no different than that of Junior, Clinton, Senior, Reagan, Carter, Ford/Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy, Ike, Truman, FDR...or any of the others. All corporations love to hold to the "company line" at all times. That's why corporations have PR departments.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.


LINKY

The progressive end game is 100% control. It's do as I say, not as I do.

 

[Lone Clone]

Liberals / Progressives / (most) Democrats are control freaks. It's the one characteristic at the core of everything they do and say. Control over others' lives is the primordial principle that inexorably drives them in politics and in their personal lives.



They can't afford to be too obvious about it, because nobody likes a control freak, especially control freaks. They must conceal their ulterior motive at all costs. They disguise and camouflage it with affected nobility, piety, sympathy, compassion, and the selfless desire to help others (whether they want that help or not).



An appurtenance to that ineluctable drive is the superior intelligence that makes their efforts necessary and appropriate. They are simply smarter than everybody else, and therefore it is incumbent upon them to treat others as children who don't always know what's best for them and must be taught to obey at all times. If Americans are the world's police, progressives are the world's mothers.


LINKY

I think generalizations can be dangerous, but you really nailed this one.

 

[ANYCHawk]

The progressive end game is 100% control. It's do as I say, not as I do.

Hell yeah bumping three year old posts

 

[ANYCHawk]

I think generalizations can be dangerous, but you really nailed this one.

Says the guy that totally supports Sinclair telling its newsrooms what they must read on air

 

[Huey Grey]

Trump threw a huge fit because black men wouldn't stand at a football game. What were you saying about control again?

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Says the guy that totally supports Sinclair telling its newsrooms what they must read on air

Not true, but keep up the good "fair" news fight that CNN/MSNBC does.

 

[lucas80]

I think generalizations can be dangerous, but you really nailed this one.

LOL at congratulating a guy who has had four handles since this post. You dropped your IQ ten points by boosting this back to life.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Not true, but keep up the good "fair" news fight that CNN/MSNBC does.

You don't even know what you're talking about anymore

 

[Lone Clone]

Says the guy that totally supports Sinclair telling its newsrooms what they must read on air

That's a misstatement of my position, but since you raise the issue, who do you think should tell TV employees what to say in the opinion segment, since you don't think the owner of the station should do it?

 

[JWolf74]

This thread is full of the ghosts of retards past.

 

[ANYCHawk]

That's a misstatement of my position, but since you raise the issue, who do you think should tell TV employees what to say in the opinion segment, since you don't think the owner of the station should do it?

The news departmnet

 

[Lone Clone]

The news departmnet

LOL. That ain't the way it works. Anywhere. Certainly not in newspapers.

Dirty little secret (that shouldn't be a secret): Freedom of the press applies to the owner of the press. It doesn't guarantee that the guy writing or running the press can do whatever he wants. It guarantees that he can buy his own press if he wants.

 

[ANYCHawk]

LOL. That ain't the way it works. Anywhere. Certainly not in newspapers.

Dirty little secret (that shouldn't be a secret): Freedom of the press applies to the owner of the press. It doesn't guarantee that the guy writing or running the press can do whatever he wants. It guarantees that he can buy his own press if he wants.

I know you claim to be a former journalist, but have you ever been inside a newsroom. I mean like any one, any where?

And freedom of the press does apply to owners. Just like I have the freedom to call them, and you, out on bullcrap.