Are there too many teams in the playoff?
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yes. 8 teams no home games no byes and it will still end up the same as if they voted on it.
Nack to the BCS?
Probably 4 too many based on yesterday's games......historically once you get out side of the top 5-6 there is a pretty sizeable drop off
This horrid display of post season exhibition football will lose audiences quickly as the ‘TRUE’ champion novelty falters. Only the money exchangers drive this nonsense - the same $$$ teams will appear each year with different random outcomes proving nothing and ultimately having no connection to why college fb was great. Yes, unfortunately ‘WAS’, now that the extremist faction has their way and nothing but playoffs matter. RIP ncaa football, you had a good run.
Still waiting for the first career ending injury to occur to see the cockroaches run and the future (nfl ready) players to say nyet to this Roman Coliseum spectacle of $$.
I didn't mind the writers and coaches simply voting and then a bunch of bowl games especially the Rose Bowl (Keith Jackson RIP). Money and suits messed it up.
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No just the wrong ones…..Miami and Alabama should’ve been in the playoffs over Indiana and SMU.Yup, I'm gonna be that guy.
4 games and 4 lopsided scores.
Yup. Gonna do nothing but argue about outcomes anyway because of who was selected, seeding, injury participation, conference affiliation, etc. Destroyed it all for this? What a tragic blunder for 99% of D1 football fans to be permanently relegated to inconsequential futures. Hell, Indiana now had a bad year!!! The Hoosiers will now be known as posers. Doesnt work for the health of the game.
I'd be ok staying at 12 with some changes. No more automatic byes or bids for winning a conference. Take the 12 highest ranked teams and seed them accordingly. It's a joke that Oregon's reward for the #1 seed is to play Ohio State in the quarterfinals while the 6 seed gets a G5 team.
Don't forget the argument about home field advantage (a real thing) and byes.
No - they just got the seeding and format wrong.
First round games should have been SMU vs Boise St, as an example. The forced seeding and byes for league champions is a big miss.
Also, the fact that the home team blew out the visitor is just as telling as the result itself. Home field is such an advantage in college sports.
Lastly…it’s ONE year…so anyone using this (especially the first) sample set to make definitive arguments is using mainly emotion, not reason. The playoff, if done right, should create a little more parity at the top than right now
First round games should have been SMU vs Boise St, as an example. The forced seeding and byes for league champions is a big miss.
Also, the fact that the home team blew out the visitor is just as telling as the result itself. Home field is such an advantage in college sports.
Lastly…it’s ONE year…so anyone using this (especially the first) sample set to make definitive arguments is using mainly emotion, not reason. The playoff, if done right, should create a little more parity at the top than right now
Find a way to guarantee that the actual 12 best teams based on the eyeball test (or whatever other system they want to use) are in the playoffs. This year is proving that teams like SMU and Indiana were feel good stories during the regular season, but that they had no business being in the playoffs. I’m going to predict we’ll be saying the same about Boise State and Arizona State after the next round.
I’m also glad we’re debating about the 12th, 13th, 14th teams getting in vs left out rather than debating the 4th vs 5th.
8 teams. No home field advantage.
First four games were absolute snoozers.
First four games were absolute snoozers.
Because Miami finished below Clemson and SMU and both those teams did so well? And Bama lost to Tennessee in case you forgot. Nobody was going into Columbus and winning last night. I love the home games, especially seeing an SEC team having to travel North in December, which we’ve been asking for for years.
So then you end up with 8 blue bloods because any other team other than a blue blood in a 8 team playoff is a "feel good story".
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i think it should be 8 Teams with no byes and the first round games on campus , The Teams that make the finals have really long Seasons and the injury risk is really magnified , Major Conference Champions and the rest at large , It does not matter how many You expand to some will have sour grapes and the welfare of the Athletes needs to be the top priority not TV money .
I think this is right. Guaranteed byes for ASU and Boise St messed this up. Probably had to do it to make someone happy and get it done. They'll fix it next year.
Still surprising to me. Four blowout wins.
Well SMU didn’t play Miami or Syracuse which were some of the better teams in the ACC they had a cupcake schedule just like Indiana (we all saw how that worked out). Don’t disagree with you on SEC teams coming North but saying weather made a difference in the OSU and Tennessee game isn’t the same as teams that actually live in the south come north to play. The difference in temp from Knoxville to Columbus was nominal. The way OSU played last night I don’t think anyone else in the nation would’ve won. I look forward to seeing OSU and Oregon play at a neutral site after the close game in Eugene earlier this season.
Home fields are part of what make college football great. They should have everything but the championship at home fields. College football doesn’t owe these bowls anything. Expanding the field will eventually help distribute talent. I’d go 14 or 16 team playoffs.
Indiana was always a poser. They didn't have the depth of elite athletes necessary to compete with teams with $10 million + payrolls. The old system had 4 teams and Indiana wouldn't have made it and would have been spanked in their Bowl game.
NIL has destroyed college sports and now it is professional football Professional leagues always have playoffs, only question is number
of teams and format.
There are usually 2-3 teams that are at different level each year and Indiana (and Iowa) aren't at that level. The last Iowa team that might have had a shot at competing for Title was 2009 Iowa team. The 2015 Iowa team was a good story, but little bit like Indiana---overachieving the talent level.
I watched parts of three games and checked the score on fourth. After the *** kicking started I lost interest (boring) in each game. I do not think I am an exception as fans want competitive games. Something needs to change, or these playoffs will die in its infancy. JMO
16 teams
Bias needs to be removed. No Polls, which ruin everything!!
That happens when the B1G & SEC go to 24 teams each (4 divisions/6 teams in each conference) and we see the NFL style playoff format.
Next year will be the last 12 team playoff
Bias needs to be removed. No Polls, which ruin everything!!
That happens when the B1G & SEC go to 24 teams each (4 divisions/6 teams in each conference) and we see the NFL style playoff format.
Next year will be the last 12 team playoff
You mean the Alabama team that lost 24-3 to 6-6 Oklahoma? LOL Maybe you mean the Alabama team that gave up 40 points to Vanderbilt and also lost to the Commodores.
Maybe you mean the Miami team that lost to Georgia Tech and gave up 42 points in its season-ending loss to Syracuse? LOL again.
Hell, just put Alabama and Georgia and Michigan and Ohio State and Notre Dame and Texas in there every year and forget about it.
What happens on the field during the 12-game season, 13 with conference championship games, doesn't mean a thing. You know, just like the NCAA basketball tournament that features just six teams every year--Duke and Kentucky, Gonzaga and North Carolina, Kansas and Whoever.
Two plays in the first quarter--the INT and the 98-yard TD run--totally changed the Indiana-ND game. And at the end, Indiana scored 14 points in less than two minutes.
There are two choices for major college football: Stick with a 12 or 16-game CFP, or go back to the bowl game system with NO CFP and just let people vote for the national champion. After all, voting works great in politics. The most qualified, best candidate wins every time.
This is the correct answer. Trying to mimic the NCAA basketball tournament will turn out to be a mistake IMHO. Why not have the top 8 teams duke it out and then match up an Indy vs SMU in a competitive warm weather bowl game?
Why was it ok for Tennessee to be in. They were overmatched by the lowest seeded home team. They seem like a fake ID more than Indiana and SMU. Why wasn't ESPN calling them out last night and on their social media?
The score of the Indiana game looked closer than what the game actually felt like. That game never seemed in danger of ND losing let’s be honest. I think 16 teams is probably the best number. Yes you are correct a lot of those teams lost games they shouldn’t have. However do we really think Alabama or Miami wouldn’t beat SMU 3 of 4 times if they played? I’m just saying my opinion I don’t think SMU or Indiana were one of the best 12 teams in the nation. I think it should go to 16 teams no byes teams ranked 1-16 higher ranked teams get home field advantage until the semi finals then it goes to the bowl games.
First of all, I'm not liking the playoff era at all. I'm one of those guys who wants it how it was prior to the Coalition/Alliance/BCS etc.
But, since we've gotten this far and there's no going back, we might as well do it right. 12 teams is too many. There are 5-6 teams at most each season that have a legitimate claim as the best team. 8 team playoff should be enough. 4 top conference champs plus 4 at-large, seeded how the Committee sees fit, quarterfinals on home fields, then on to the old 4-team CFP (2 major bowl games for semifinals, then a championship game).
No byes. No automatic high seeds. Playoff home game is ultimate goal. #9 team left out had no chance of winning it all, anyway. All teams involved need to win a game if they want a traditional bowl trip. Still some really good bowl games/destinations for teams that missed the playoff. 4 fewer games to get hyped to death for very little reason. Most of the time fans will only need to take 2 trips to see their team play in the championship game (only rare exception would be fans who travel to the quarterfinal road game and then have their team end up reaching the championship game). Season over before spring semester starts (I know that's of very little importance to most players, but it's still a plus).
I know this isn't happening, and eventually we'll have 16 teams with team #17 bitching and moaning about how unfair it is they were left out, and we'll be enduring 8-9 blowouts every playoff instead of 5-6, but that's what the people want (just like NIL and the transfer portal). Congratulations.
But, since we've gotten this far and there's no going back, we might as well do it right. 12 teams is too many. There are 5-6 teams at most each season that have a legitimate claim as the best team. 8 team playoff should be enough. 4 top conference champs plus 4 at-large, seeded how the Committee sees fit, quarterfinals on home fields, then on to the old 4-team CFP (2 major bowl games for semifinals, then a championship game).
No byes. No automatic high seeds. Playoff home game is ultimate goal. #9 team left out had no chance of winning it all, anyway. All teams involved need to win a game if they want a traditional bowl trip. Still some really good bowl games/destinations for teams that missed the playoff. 4 fewer games to get hyped to death for very little reason. Most of the time fans will only need to take 2 trips to see their team play in the championship game (only rare exception would be fans who travel to the quarterfinal road game and then have their team end up reaching the championship game). Season over before spring semester starts (I know that's of very little importance to most players, but it's still a plus).
I know this isn't happening, and eventually we'll have 16 teams with team #17 bitching and moaning about how unfair it is they were left out, and we'll be enduring 8-9 blowouts every playoff instead of 5-6, but that's what the people want (just like NIL and the transfer portal). Congratulations.
