Are you in the "let it burn club?"

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Sure. But you are trying to compare it to a situation that can’t currently happen.

So you're saying a good thing - allowing more good people to run - shouldn't happen because it could also allow more bad people to run?

That's sort of the anti-vaxx argument. We shouldn't have vaccines because although they save millions and millions of lives, some people are also harmed.

 

[torbee]

Yeah that all sucks. I really do think this will take an entire generation or two to fully unravel. The most ardent Trump supporters that I know (and data backs this up) are 45 and up. I think it's going to take until some of that generation dies off and we are 20 or 30 years out from Trump being in office.

If we are being honest, the issue isn't Rs vs Ds. The issue is how much people support Trump. My Dad and I had respectable conversations over Bush v Kerry and Obama v Romney even tho we were on opposite sides. His love for Trump is like nothing else. He literally has told me that. He has Trump hats and shirts and hangs on the mans every word. We still talk but I'm just sick of his constant Trump love. If they had nominated Haley and she beat Harris (which she would have imo) then I wouldn't feel anywhere near this.

What we actually need are for people for go back to just liking politicians. This will only happen once Trump is no longer in the picture. Hopefully that's 2028 but he just told the House yesterday half jokingly that he may have to run "if they need him" in 2028 which is exactly what I think may happen. We shall see.

I am sorry you lost your dad to a cult, that sucks man. 😢

 

[torbee]

I understand the process of rhetoric being gradually amped up over time as more and more people become desensitized. At this time, I have no reason to believe the plan is to round up brown people and throw them in a concentration camp to be enslaved and tortured to death. That is what we are making comparisons to, correct?

I do not fail to realize anything and understand how shitty and terrible of a human being Trump is. I agree it’s a slippery slope and I have no doubt Trump and his allies will try to take it as far as they want it to go. I just don’t believe there’s any credible evidence to suggest Trump wants to commit genocide against brown people. Again, if that’s what is being compared here (MAGA to Nazi Germany), then I am not willing to make that leap.

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

Hey, if things end for Trump like they did for Mussolini, I say:

 

[torbee]

It will forever invoke an involuntary laugh as I read you guys discuss your outstanding ability to critically think.

And frankly Jimmy, if we don't have that, what are we playing for?

Jimmy is an intellectual giant compared to you, although that is an admittedly low bar.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Jimmy is an intellectual giant compared to you, although that is an admittedly low bar.

It's that water. Change your pants bud.

 

[torbee]

It's that water. Change your pants bud.

Could be the fumes from that smelter near Purina. Either way, Ts and Ps.

 

[funksouljon]

You can't see that he is trying to consolidate power like Hitler?

O look, we are back to "Trump is Hitler"....

Literally the post above yours.....

Like indicates similarities.... There could absolutely be someone else to compare to. But Hitler is fresh and people know his acts and his process was pretty well documented. Also, Trump was a fan. So.... "is" Hitler is to get you people worked up. "Like" Hitler, there are some similarities.... like it or not.

 

[BelemNole]

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

With luck he’ll end the same way

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

With luck he’ll end the same way

Franco ruled Spain for decades and died of natural causes.

 

[BelemNole]

Franco ruled Spain for decades and died of natural causes.

Was referring to Mussolini

 

[BrianNole777]

Trump is 78 and has 5 years left max, IMO.

 

[noleclone2]

 

[noleclone2]

This is a good summary meme I found on Bluesky

 

[billanole]

It isnt about qualifications. The 'qualified' individuals that you speak of are part of the DC bureaucracy that have gotten us to where we are now. We need visionaries, reformists, not career DC, DoJ, DoD, DoS types. These picks also have what Trump wants. He wants advisors not back stabbers, not future novel writers and not Capitol Hill friends of friends. That was his first term. This time he will get honest advice and from people that are there to make him better rather than make themselves out to be Don Quixote tilting at the Trump Presidency windmill where they later can go to the big money parties and talk all about how they 'tried to stop him'.

Make no mistake, in 4 years, if this experiment doesn't work, you can tell us all about how you predicted it.

But right now, the market loves this president, the world fears this President, and he beat the living crap out of all of you leftists, that underestimated him clearly, and now has his team in place to make his mark.

Im cheering for him. I'll eat crow if the benefits aren't reaped sooner than later.

Yer boy is choosing folks able to improve our society? Those able to make life better for all? Able to help us avoid big time war?

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

Beginning to think this is just a massive Trump troll job.

Intentionally picking the most unqualified individuals for every position.

Really late to this thread so maybe this has already been mentioned. But there is a part of me that wonders if Trump is intentionally trying to tank the markets before he takes office so that he can claim responsibility for bringing them back.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

What position is Turd saving for Kari Lake?

Has he named a press secretary yet?

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Has he named a press secretary yet?

Yes. Leavitt

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

Not start a new thread about every single decision Trump has made so far would be a start. Not starting threads saying he won’t lower prices of anything. Not start threads saying he is working with Russia. I could go on and on.
I know most people in this world aren’t on Hawkeye Beacon but this type of shit is all over the news and social media.
If people want to give up and sit back, that’s one thing but to continue to divide and voice “opinions” constantly is not helping.

This is probably one of the least “self-aware” posts I've seen in a long time.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

Yes. Leavitt

Jim Leavitt, the radio personality? Oh geez.

 

[torbee]

This is probably one of the least “self-aware” posts I've seen in a long time.

That is the job of the Village Idiot.

 

[noleclone2]

Really late to this thread so maybe this has already been mentioned. But there is a part of me that wonders if Trump is intentionally trying to tank the markets before he takes office so that he can claim responsibility for bringing them back.

You know, last 8 years this has happened numerous times where what he does and says seems so crazy we start using our own intelligence to project some sort of 4D chess he is playing but in the end it all comes down to him being just that stupid, uncaring, lazy, and crazy and nothing more.

 

[Tom Paris]

Hey, if things end for Trump like they did for Mussolini, I say:

Problem is, our military is too powerful for that to happen.