Are you in the "let it burn club?"

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Sure. But you are trying to compare it to a situation that can’t currently happen.

So you're saying a good thing - allowing more good people to run - shouldn't happen because it could also allow more bad people to run?

That's sort of the anti-vaxx argument. We shouldn't have vaccines because although they save millions and millions of lives, some people are also harmed.

 

[torbee]

Yeah that all sucks. I really do think this will take an entire generation or two to fully unravel. The most ardent Trump supporters that I know (and data backs this up) are 45 and up. I think it's going to take until some of that generation dies off and we are 20 or 30 years out from Trump being in office.

If we are being honest, the issue isn't Rs vs Ds. The issue is how much people support Trump. My Dad and I had respectable conversations over Bush v Kerry and Obama v Romney even tho we were on opposite sides. His love for Trump is like nothing else. He literally has told me that. He has Trump hats and shirts and hangs on the mans every word. We still talk but I'm just sick of his constant Trump love. If they had nominated Haley and she beat Harris (which she would have imo) then I wouldn't feel anywhere near this.

What we actually need are for people for go back to just liking politicians. This will only happen once Trump is no longer in the picture. Hopefully that's 2028 but he just told the House yesterday half jokingly that he may have to run "if they need him" in 2028 which is exactly what I think may happen. We shall see.

I am sorry you lost your dad to a cult, that sucks man. 😢

 

[torbee]

I understand the process of rhetoric being gradually amped up over time as more and more people become desensitized. At this time, I have no reason to believe the plan is to round up brown people and throw them in a concentration camp to be enslaved and tortured to death. That is what we are making comparisons to, correct?

I do not fail to realize anything and understand how shitty and terrible of a human being Trump is. I agree it’s a slippery slope and I have no doubt Trump and his allies will try to take it as far as they want it to go. I just don’t believe there’s any credible evidence to suggest Trump wants to commit genocide against brown people. Again, if that’s what is being compared here (MAGA to Nazi Germany), then I am not willing to make that leap.

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

Hey, if things end for Trump like they did for Mussolini, I say:

 

[torbee]

It will forever invoke an involuntary laugh as I read you guys discuss your outstanding ability to critically think.

And frankly Jimmy, if we don't have that, what are we playing for?

Jimmy is an intellectual giant compared to you, although that is an admittedly low bar.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Jimmy is an intellectual giant compared to you, although that is an admittedly low bar.

It's that water. Change your pants bud.

 

[torbee]

It's that water. Change your pants bud.

Could be the fumes from that smelter near Purina. Either way, Ts and Ps.

 

[funksouljon]

You can't see that he is trying to consolidate power like Hitler?

O look, we are back to "Trump is Hitler"....

Literally the post above yours.....

Like indicates similarities.... There could absolutely be someone else to compare to. But Hitler is fresh and people know his acts and his process was pretty well documented. Also, Trump was a fan. So.... "is" Hitler is to get you people worked up. "Like" Hitler, there are some similarities.... like it or not.

 

[BelemNole]

I agree with you on the genocide issue. For one thing, I don't think Americans would get on board with that (at least I hope).

That said, "fascism" isn't just bad when taken to the absolute Hitler-level extreme.

I view Trump more like Mussolini - a preening, vain, faux-macho "strong man" who just refuses to play by any rules or political norms. Someone who froths up populist and nationalist sentiment in his followers in order to enrich himself and gain power for himself and his cronies. See also Franco in Spain, Pinochet in Argentina, etc.

I feel like that is the sort of path Trump would like to take us on. And it's bad enough without being HItler-level bad.

With luck he’ll end the same way

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

With luck he’ll end the same way

Franco ruled Spain for decades and died of natural causes.

 

[BelemNole]

Franco ruled Spain for decades and died of natural causes.

Was referring to Mussolini

 

[BrianNole777]

Trump is 78 and has 5 years left max, IMO.

 

[noleclone2]