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Arrogant asshole Elon Musk opens mouth and blows up spending bill in the House

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The pork is the debt limit, pay raises. Nothing else of significance?
Going t be interesting in 26. When they lose the House. The ruling party always losses seats in midterms. Going to be really difficult to keep the House. No idea on Senate.

I recall you saying Harris would win, and the D's would claim the House and Senate in 2024.

How did that work out???
 
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The 40% you speak of is how much congress people would have got in raises from 2009 to now if there was not the block to cola raises. I know it can be hard to read and understand.

Several news agencies all state a 3.8% increase in congress pay. I think their 174,000 salary is enough but also they havent had a pay raise in 15 years. There is a whole lot of good things and some bad things in this bill.

But also there is a govt shutdown looming Saturday if it doesnt get passed.

I'm willing to give Kamala a pay increase when they balance the budget.
 
We are broke? By we do you mean the country? Have you looked at the assets side of the ledger for the US. way more trillions of dollars in assets than our national debt. Do you know accounting or how to balance your home finances.

Look at the assets, extreme assets in mineral and oil and gas rights, land to sell, buildings to sell, roads and bridges to put tolls on and raise billions.

Tax the rich , the personal wealth in this country is about $165 trillion right now. Do a one time progressive tax to raise $18 trillion dollars and pay off half the debt in one fell swoop.

But we are not in drastic debt or broke.

The D's love to spend money. But their mentality is always tax someone other than themselves.
 
The Fascist Republican Party is a mess. President Musk bought his way into power because feeble and weak-minded Trump is such a pushover. Trump, in his soiled Depends, doesn’t even realize he ceded his authority to Musk. I’m guessing that Trump thinks Musk is his pal, given the two-week long sleepover. Musk should not be making decisions for millions of Americans.
 
It’s honestly a smart gambit to get an entire group to become suddenly passive about your industry. It’s been months since we’ve had a Trad thread regaling the wonders of internal combustion engines
 
The Fascist Republican Party is a mess. President Musk bought his way into power because feeble and weak-minded Trump is such a pushover. Trump, in his soiled Depends, doesn’t even realize he ceded his authority to Musk. I’m guessing that Trump thinks Musk is his pal, given the two-week long sleepover. Musk should not be making decisions for millions of Americans.
A little harsh on vice president Trump.
 
We are broke? By we do you mean the country? Have you looked at the assets side of the ledger for the US. way more trillions of dollars in assets than our national debt. Do you know accounting or how to balance your home finances.

Look at the assets, extreme assets in mineral and oil and gas rights, land to sell, buildings to sell, roads and bridges to put tolls on and raise billions.

Tax the rich , the personal wealth in this country is about $165 trillion right now. Do a one time progressive tax to raise $18 trillion dollars and pay off half the debt in one fell swoop.

But we are not in drastic debt or broke.
Yes, the country is broke. I'm a CPA for 25+ years, just retired at 50 and also held securities licenses. I don't know any wealthy folks that deplete their assets with wasteful spending. They live off the return on those assets. When you deplete your assets you become leveraged and broke with a rockstar lifestyle. When tax revenues collected are servicing 30% of your budget for interest expense then you are not solvent. Also how many of those assets are liquid? You can't just easily sell them off.

I'm all for taxing more "that's part of the reason why I retired young tired of working free half the year" but they need to cut spending more than taxing. Way too much excessive waste. We are broke, you must not pay any taxes.
 
Yes, the country is broke. I'm a CPA for 25+ years, just retired at 50 and also held securities licenses. I don't know any wealthy folks that deplete their assets with wasteful spending. They live off the return on those assets. When you deplete your assets you become leveraged and broke with a rockstar lifestyle. When tax revenues collected are servicing 30% of your budget for interest expense then you are not solvent. Also how many of those assets are liquid? You can't just easily sell them off.

I'm all for taxing more "that's part of the reason why I retired young tired of working free half the year" but they need to cut spending more than taxing. Way too much excessive waste. We are broke, you must not pay any taxes.
So how do you cut enough without touching the military?
 
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The world would be better off without leeches like yourself.
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We make worthless leeches like yourself get to work.
THEY SHOULD GET TO WORK BUILDING DA FOOKIN CASSVILLE BRIDGE SO WE CAN FINALLY GET WHAT WE DESERVE IN SOUTHERN CLAYTON COUNTY!!!!!!!!! BUT NAH — THESE RADICAL MARXISTS WOULD RATHER HANG OUT IN DA INTERSTATE BATHHOUSES EATING SEMEN AND SOY AND SPREADING DA AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO GET DA LABOR CAMP CREATED SO THESE LOSAHS LIKE BERNIE AND DA SQUAD AND DA CHE GUEVARA CAN BE PUT TO WORK WHILE US ALPHA DAWGS WATCH OVER THEM AND ENJOY OUR ICE COLD CANS OF SPRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE AIN'T GOT TIME FOR LEFTIST LIBTAHD LEECHES TO BE SPREADING DISEASES IN SOUTHERN CLAYTON COUNTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ah yes...the same people that want to fund SS, universal healthcare, free college tuition, also support these kind of bills. You can't have them both! It is past time for the US to correct the course we are on. Shut it down and get serious about passing legitimate bills for spending. This isn't even getting into the debt issue that isn't going away unless we start changing our spending.
 
To the best of my knowledge, they weren’t considered for the DOGE position. Again, Musk is a narcissist. He should not be anywhere close to being a decision maker for millions of Americans.
He’s coming from a system where if you hit it big. All of the other failures are forgiven.
Government doesn’t work that way. Every failure can affect the life permanently of near 360 million. Mistakes by government for instance to deregulate certain financial instruments.
Helped lead to the Great Recession. Citizens losing their homes and the beginning of homeownership becoming rarer.
 
Yes, the country is broke. I'm a CPA for 25+ years, just retired at 50 and also held securities licenses. I don't know any wealthy folks that deplete their assets with wasteful spending. They live off the return on those assets. When you deplete your assets you become leveraged and broke with a rockstar lifestyle. When tax revenues collected are servicing 30% of your budget for interest expense then you are not solvent. Also how many of those assets are liquid? You can't just easily sell them off.

I'm all for taxing more "that's part of the reason why I retired young tired of working free half the year" but they need to cut spending more than taxing. Way too much excessive waste. We are broke, you must not pay any taxes.
Agree spending needs cut more than taxes increased. The issue is still the Republican pledge to never raise taxes. Hard for the two sides to cut a deal. With absolutes on the table.
We can’t raise taxes
Can’t touch social security or Medicare
Can’t touch defense spending.
 
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Ah yes...the same people that want to fund SS, universal healthcare, free college tuition, also support these kind of bills. You can't have them both! It is past time for the US to correct the course we are on. Shut it down and get serious about passing legitimate bills for spending. This isn't even getting into the debt issue that isn't going away unless we start changing our spending.
How do you feel about tax cuts? Cause if you are serious about the debt you cut spending and increase taxes.
 
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Yes, let's keep doing the same thing over and over again. We finally will have a team that will drain the swamp, put a stop to insane spending......40% pay raise for those ass wipes. We need more Elon Musks. The hate spewed by you leftists shows me that the Trump team is off to a good start. Make America Great Again!!
Drain the swamp? LOL, you can't be this stupid. It is the swamp!!!! It's all unqualified billionaires.
 
They live off the return on those assets.
No they don’t. Billionaires take out low interest loans using their untaxed assets as collateral. The loans aren’t taxed. And as long as the interest rate is lower than the return on their assets, they make money. When they die, the assets are stepped up and can be sold with no capital gains ever being taxed. The estate pays off any outstanding loans and - bingo - windfall for the heirs.
 
He’s coming from a system where if you hit it big. All of the other failures are forgiven.
Government doesn’t work that way. Every failure can affect the life permanently of near 360 million. Mistakes by government for instance to deregulate certain financial instruments.
Helped lead to the Great Recession. Citizens losing their homes and the beginning of homeownership becoming rarer.
This is true

However we are no longer on the gold standard or even a standard based on the US dollar. We are now on a military standard and nobody is calling in the note any time soon.
 
Musk, I need to think of a good nickname for him, is just a piece of shit who thinks he knows what is good for U.S./us. He is acting like he is the prez. And it will be interesting to see how the dumpster/Elon dynamic plays out because the dumpster wants all the headlines since he is so self-absorbed.

It will also be interesting to see if somehow he is asked or told to divest is his businesses that have govt contracts if he wants a job in the admin.
He is self-made. He knows more than you. He's much smarter than you. He works harder than you. He's worked harder every year than you've ever worked in a year. He makes the totality of you in probably less than an hour.
 
Musk, I need to think of a good nickname for him, is just a piece of shit who thinks he knows what is good for U.S./us. He is acting like he is the prez. And it will be interesting to see how the dumpster/Elon dynamic plays out because the dumpster wants all the headlines since he is so self-absorbed.

It will also be interesting to see if somehow he is asked or told to divest is his businesses that have govt contracts if he wants a job in the admin.
Elon is a genius who accomplishes more in 1 hour than you have ever accomplished in your meaningless life.
 
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