I do know a thing or two about engaging crazy people who are not making any sense. So on that note, have a great night.
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I do know a thing or two about engaging crazy people who are not making any sense. So on that note, have a great night.
Harvard Law opines. Now will you all please quit bellyaching?
Don’t see you griping about the job losses that would come from government run healthcare
The gubment pays about 75% of their premiums.
Isn't that on par with some plans people get with some civilian jobs? I think state employees get those type rates as well.
It's a good deal no argument but it isn't free.
Every cop, fire fighter, and military person I know who takes retirement then moves to another career refers to themselves as “retired.”
The claim was the "vast majority" of jobs created were government jobs. 25 percent is not the vast majority. It's not even a majority. Additionally your link will show that that 25% includes state and local government jobs.
Going from vast majority to significant percentage is moving the goalposts. The original claim was in fact wildly inaccurate as demonstrated by your data.
On a side note I think it is worth pointing out that while the federal workforce has grown steadily that as a share of the working population federal employees have held steady for decades. I think a lot of people imagine that the addition of loads of federal workers has caused the deficit but this doesn't appear to be the case.
What the data says about federal workers
As President-elect Donald Trump returns to the White House, here are answers to some common questions about the federal workforce.
www.pewresearch.org
When Biden cut the pipeline jobs, what was it they said? 🤔.
Oh ya, they can be trained and find another job.
Biden told the miners they should "learn to code":
John Kerry told the pipeline workers they "can be the people who go to work to make the solar panels."
"It makes you want to give up." Keystone workers feel left behind by Biden executive orders
Their jobs are a casualty of the promise of a greener economy, and they're not convinced the Biden administration will take care of them.
www.cbsnews.com
Please explain. If you're talking about people in health insurance - companies who profit off of the sick - I guess I'm guilty. Pretty sure when the day comes Democrats will actually have a plan before they do it, instead of what Trump does.
Ya, so tugging on the heart strings of people are loosing jobs isn't going to work. The private sector has been going through this for many years with the Government shutting down their jobs.John Kerry told the pipeline workers they "can be the people who go to work to make the solar panels."
"It makes you want to give up." Keystone workers feel left behind by Biden executive orders
Their jobs are a casualty of the promise of a greener economy, and they're not convinced the Biden administration will take care of them.
We are still waiting for Obama's healthcare costs to go down.
Companies that profit and pay taxes on their income. The alternative was Obamacare that costs more, drives up the deficit, and nobody pays taxes on it.
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Great point, but you could've left out the smart comment. Just saying.
And yet you contribute nothing to the conversation. Losing an argument, call them names; a typical lefty ploy. So you support all of the graft and corruption at USAID. Or are you just pissed Musk discovered it?
Me? LMAO, you realize that the vast majority of people support what Musk and Trump are doing right now, including firing all all of these federal teat suckers. Of course, I wouldn't expect the delusional lefties on this site to acknowledge, or understand that fact.
Dude, what are you contributing? Painting every government worker with a stupid broad brush? The tired cliche of government workers not having a "real" job?
You simply sound uneducated and bitter.
My employer paid all but $50/ pay if my healthcare/RX insurance when I retired 10 years ago…I currently pay a little $8k/ annually fir my MediCare/Supplenent and RX coverage as a retiree….(for just me!)…
Ha, very well educated, and yes, the fewer government workers the better it is for our country. You just sound uninformed and bitter that the gravy train is ending for your types.
Health care workers especially nurses will be laid off
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Why? How do you know? Why won't nurses be needed? I thought there was already a nurse shortage. I am not being a smartass with these questions. Educate me. I KNOW you would know more about how nurses would be affected than I do.
Why? How do you know? Why won't nurses be needed? I thought there was already a nurse shortage. I am not being a smartass with these questions. Educate me. I KNOW you would know more about how nurses would be affected than I do.
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Nurses are one of the biggest expenses in a healthcare organization. Reimbursements from a government healthcare system cannot sustain an organization. It’s the easiest to cut, back in the late 90’s insurances went to a system that affected reimbursements. The first thing that was cut was nurses, replaced with CNA’s and the nurse to patient ratio went up
Take it from a government employee right...?
You're right, when quarter after quarter most of the "job growth" comes from bloating the federal government, there will be NO PROBLEM with a couple quarters of "down" jobs numbers.
Small price to pay to give MSNBC some talking points...which smart people will see right through.
Can you provide data to support this claim of most of job growth coming coming from bloating of federal government?
One of many articles on the topic...
mises.org
Recession Signal: Private-Sector Job Growth Is Being Replaced by Gov't-Sector Job Growth | Mises Institute
History has shown that as the US economy inches closer to recession, government jobs take up a larger and larger share of new job growth. We're seeing this
This does not support the claim that most job growth has been due to federal government bloat.One of many articles on the topic...
Recession Signal: Private-Sector Job Growth Is Being Replaced by Gov't-Sector Job Growth | Mises Institute
History has shown that as the US economy inches closer to recession, government jobs take up a larger and larger share of new job growth. We're seeing this
If you want to make the claim that government jobs including federal, state, and local have contributed significantly to job growth I would agree with that. But it is not most of the growth and it is not even close to being most of the growth due to federal government jobs.
Tom, you really only see things through your own lens yourself.
Your unquestioned support of Pharma (Pharma causes a lot of harm) is no different.
Exactly, it’s simply a perk of the job. Also, once gov’t employees retire they can carry health insurance into retirement, but at that point the retiree pays a larger portion of the premium.
Why? How do you know? Why won't nurses be needed? I thought there was already a nurse shortage. I am not being a smartass with these questions. Educate me. I KNOW you would know more about how nurses would be affected than I do.
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Agreed, I don’t think health care workers/nurses who are in great need would be laid off.
Agreed, I don’t think health care workers/nurses who are in great need would be laid off.
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They will just increase the nurse to patient ratio
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