Ash has played very well in the limited time he has had on the floor. He looks calm and collected. I trust his play more than Evelyn lately.
Ash needs more playing time.
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This could be the worst post I've ever read.
So, you'd rather see evelyn than ash on the floor. Evelyn has been more of a liability than an asset lately.
Look, Ash is a good 3 point shooting WALK-ON. He's only ever in at the tail end of a blow out, and that's the only time he should be in. Evelyn has more upside in pretty much every facet of the game.
And he was definitely not a liability today.
I think there’s a role for Ash to be used for some smaller minutes with CJ out. He can shoot it but was also pretty composed at Indiana, tracking down some loose rebounds. I’m not anti anyone else saying this, just thinking there’s a role there he might fill.
With the physicality of today’s game coupled with the way it was being officiated, history could have been made with the first court death in college hoops had Austin played much.
I too think Ash has a potential small role to play as well although maybe not in today's game. Fran had the right guy in there in Eveleyn who I thought showed his experience in a situation where we really needed it. If Bohannon returns next season we will have much depth in the back court but no reason Ash can't help us out here and there where we need some back up. I thought he showed good court sense in the Indiana game.
Ash's primary role should be counting Garza's 3's from the bench. And once in awhile hitting the 3 that puts Iowa over a hundred in blow outs.
Hawks lose today without Bakari, I’ll leave it at that.
IMO the original poster lost credibility by saying he or she trusts Ash's play more than Evelyn. That kind of eliminates any kind of rational discussion on whether or not Ash has any kind of limited role to play.
Personally on this team with such limited depth I think he can help a little. I guess we all look at things differently but that Indiana game I saw a guy who looks like he knows what he's doing on the court in his first extended action. Got open and might have even scored if passed to more. Valuable practice player at the least. On next year's team where we look at deep at guard we may never see him. His status as a walk on doesn't necessarily make him useless as far as seeing real playing time.
Personally on this team with such limited depth I think he can help a little. I guess we all look at things differently but that Indiana game I saw a guy who looks like he knows what he's doing on the court in his first extended action. Got open and might have even scored if passed to more. Valuable practice player at the least. On next year's team where we look at deep at guard we may never see him. His status as a walk on doesn't necessarily make him useless as far as seeing real playing time.
Here is what I am getting at. Evelyn can break a press and run the floor better than Ash. I don't question that. I am just saying that with the absence of Frederick I would prefer to see Ash take Frederick's role over Evelyn. Evelyn did have a three today and hit two free throws he also had three turn overs and is prone to over extending himself with the ball and getting in trouble. We need another legitimate threat to score with Frederick out to take pressure off of Garza and Kriener underneath. Opposing teams are just mauling Weiskamp and doubling down on Garza and our productivity has dropped off. Ash is a legitimate outside thread that could open up more options on the floor. More so than Evelyn could. Remember Baer was a walk on too.
Again=NO......... Him being a walk on has nothing to do with my NO. He is not a B1G athlete.
BTW, speaking of walkons. is Vanderloo still on the team, being redshirted or what? And no, I'm not promoting him for playing time , just wondered.
I like ash more than till. But i don't like either of them...
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This is a conversation I'd have. Other than height, Till has brought little in the way of usefulness on the court. If a walk-on is getting playing time, I'd like to see what Ash brings to the table.
So because Ash has made a couple of three's in games against the little sisters of the poor, or when Iowa has a 35 point lead you think that makes him a legitimate outside threat in a rugby match like today? Seriously? Maybe he does something, but saying "I trust him" over a fifth year senior who has played and had some success in over 100 D1 games is kinda ridiculous. I'll go with the guy in the suit on this one......
Yeah, I get the point. It's a weak one, though.
My point is that Till, though taller, hasn't been able to guard anyone. Just as Ash wouldn't be able to. Till can rebound some, but Ash can hit more 3's.
Bakaris defense on Carr was one of the main reasons Iowa won that game.
Carr would have killed Ash off the dribble.
This is an idiotic idea.
Ash and Till should never be on the floor if possible.
Carr would have killed Ash off the dribble.
This is an idiotic idea.
Ash and Till should never be on the floor if possible.
Bakari played a significant part in today's victory. Joe T was confused by the Minnesota defense. Bakari was steady Eddy today. Big baskets, big free throws, solid defense and ball control.
That's why you have the grad student on the floor in a tight road game.
That's why you have the grad student on the floor in a tight road game.
God I hate trashing Iowa players. ESPECIALLY walk ons (since I was one). Have to say it, Ash lacks athleticism that he would be abused on BOTH ends of the court. Till has some athleticism (and height). Though neither can be counted on to play for any extended time in B1G play.
Who would Ash guard? Try to block out the refs so they can't see phantom fouls? Even the refs could fight through Ash's screens to blow the whistle on Garza for breathing. Hell, Carr probably would have stolen the ball from Ash and given it back to him just so he could steal it again. No, no, no. No Ash. The only court he should see is during practice.
this is very true. However, I don’t understand why Joe Ts minutes constantly get limited. Yes he turns the ball over More than Conner/Barkari but he can create his own shot. When teams go on a run it’s usually because we have the 0 offense on the floor (Bakari, Connor, Pemsl, Kriener)
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