Baylor: No way they beat Iowa!

[Joes Place]

Baylor is a poser. Always has been. Always will be. K-State can't pass a lick. K-State ran the same weird little read option play about a million times, and Baylor STILL hasn't stopped it. And anybody who thinks Baylor would beat Iowa is delusional at best.

Some of you people are about as football smart as...well, you could work for ESPN with that deep lack of awareness. So good for you.

Baylor's opponents to date have a STELLAR winning percentage of 0.359 (23-41).

Excluding the games they lost to Baylor, their opponents' records vs. OTHER competition is 23-33, or a 0.411 winning percentage....this list includes 0-8 Kansas and 1-7 Stephen F Austin, and there is ONE team, Texas Tech, with a winning 5-4 record on their schedule so far.

EVERY other team in the Top Ten (except TCU) can EASILY claim a tougher SoS up to now.

So, yes, Baylor is ringing up style points vs. very weak opponents.

 

[brewhawk23]

I love how no one on espn is criticizing Baylor's SOS or the fact they only won by 7 against a down KSU team. The fact is if you get some stops on their 'explosive' offense, you are right in the game. Their defense is terrible....

 

[Vroom_C14]

I would expect that, although God only knows what goes through the minds of the people doing the rankings. Although I would replace "a poor KState team" with "a KState team with a mediocre record."

Not sure how "mediocre" this record is - Kansas State (3-5) to 0-5 in conference play for the first time since 1989, the first season for coach Bill Snyder on the sideline.

 

[Joes Place]

When you ignore the actual 'winning percents', and just look at how many games the opponents for the Top Ten are above or below 0.500 (or, Wins - Losses), here is what you see for schedules TO DATE:

Opps
W-L
Iowa: +7
OSU: -1
Baylor: -18
TCU: -13
MSU: +5
LSU: +5
Clemson: +9
Alabama: +8
Stanford: 0
Notre Dame: +8

 

[BioHawk]

I honestly think they will, if Iowa and others play well behind them. If we sqweek by Indiana, we will probably drop as well. The committee has to assume this is what Baylor will look like with the new QB at the helm.

This is the most horsecrap qualification I can think of. Once you are up by more than three scores it really shouldn't matter anymore how many points you score. Blowouts are deceiving and after you've established that you've taken a team out to the woodshed that's all that should matter. Teams should be able to put in their third and fourth string and not have to worry about not looking "explosive" enough. Ball control teams like Iowa shouldn't be penalized simply because part of their gameplan is to keep the other team from having the ball. If anything, using a qualification like "their offense looked more explosive" calls into question their overall knowledge of football.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

Big 12 = Arena League Football

I couldn't decide if it was that or the 7-on-7 stuff you see at camps nowadays.

 

[RPWinni0]

You guys are WAY off base in regards to the Big 12. I heard a guy on ESPN yesterday and he said the B12 plays GREAT defense despite all the yards and points. The reason they DON'T look great is because the OFFENSES are better!

Get it straight guys. ESPN is ALWAYS right!

Nice fish.

 

[Lone Clone]

Not sure how "mediocre" this record is - Kansas State (3-5) to 0-5 in conference play for the first time since 1989, the first season for coach Bill Snyder on the sideline.

3-5 is mediocre.

 

[5Fan5]

3-5 is mediocre.

Why of course it is... in the typically delusional isu fan's mind.

Carry on.

 

[Lone Clone]

Because your pot shots and ever changing view points, to knock Iowa's success, annoy the hell out of me. I come here to talk Iowa football, recruiting, etc, and instead have to listen to you and other ISU fans bag on an 8-0 Iowa team. IMO, Iowa could play with every team in the nation by using a game here or there as an example. Baylor struggled last night, TCU struggled against Minnesota, OSU and MSU struggled with some pretty crappy opponents. Bama lost and struggled with Tennessee, Notre Dame lost, Florida's QB is out for the season for cheating. LSU struggled with WKU, Miss St, and only beat Syracuse by 10. Clemson struggled with Louisville and Notre Dame. There is no perfect, dominant team right now, and as well as Iowa's Defense has played, they would be in every one of these games.

In what way have I knocked Iowa's success? By not going along with the idea that there's no doubt the Hawks would beat Baylor? It's not like I denied it was possible. Quite the opposite.

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

3-5 is mediocre.

An 0-5 conference record is hardly mediocre. Unless you're saying your impressed with their 3-0 non conference record against South Dakota, UTSA and LA Tech (triple OT). Which I guess would be impressive to someone who follows ISU football.

 

[Vroom_C14]

0-5 is terrible as Dr. Space pointed out - 3 wins vs those teams.

 

[gojojo]

3-5 is mediocre.

only an ISU fan would believe this.

 

[Lone Clone]

An 0-5 conference record is hardly mediocre. Unless you're saying your impressed with their 3-0 non conference record against South Dakota, UTSA and LA Tech (triple OT). Which I guess would be impressive to someone who follows ISU football.

OK, so we've established that some posters don't know the meaning of the word "mediocre," which isn't terribly surprising. In your case, you may well know the meaning of it, but you are responding to what I wrote. I specifically said "3-5 is not mediocre," to which you replied that 0-5 is not mediocre. You are correct. 0-5 is not mediocre. That is why I didn't say 0-5 is mediocre.

Whether the team is mediocre or not is a matter of opinion. As I wrote earlier, I've been all over the lot on that point this season. Sometimes they seem pretty salty; other times they seem to suck. They barely escaped Louisiana Tech, they got blown out by OU and they lost by 14 at Texas....but they lost by 2 at Okie State and by 7 each to TCU and Baylor.

 

[gojojo]

OK, so we've established that some posters don't know the meaning of the word "mediocre," which isn't terribly surprising. In your case, you may well know the meaning of it, but you are responding to what I wrote. I specifically said "3-5 is not mediocre," to which you replied that 0-5 is not mediocre. You are correct. 0-5 is not mediocre. That is why I didn't say 0-5 is mediocre.

Whether the team is mediocre or not is a matter of opinion. As I wrote earlier, I've been all over the lot on that point this season. Sometimes they seem pretty salty; other times they seem to suck. They barely escaped Louisiana Tech, they got blown out by OU and they lost by 14 at Texas....but they lost by 2 at Okie State and by 7 each to TCU and Baylor.

I can understand why an ISU would think 3-5 is mediocre; for ISU 3-5 is a pretty average start to a season.

 

[Calhill]

OVERRATED!!!!

 

[Ree4]

Why is it that when I watch B12 football it seems like it's 11 on offense vs 9 on defense? It's like there's never any safeties on the field. Every big play seems like there's a corner who's chasing a receiver who is 10 yards ahead of him with nobody else in the area? Do these teams use safeties?

 

[Lone Clone]

Why is it that when I watch B12 football it seems like it's 11 on offense vs 9 on defense? It's like there's never any safeties on the field. Every big play seems like there's a corner who's chasing a receiver who is 10 yards ahead of him with nobody else in the area? Do these teams use safeties?

Haven't you counted? It IS 11 on offense and 9 on defense. Fans love them some TDs, man.

Seriously.....I assume in the cases you noticed, the safety was covering a different receiver than the one to whom the quarterback threw the ball. Given the fact there are frequently more receivers than there are defensive backs.