Just a beautifully played, fluid form of bball. much easier for the officials.
Before all the grabbing and bumping in Bball; 1969 Ucla vs Purdue Ncaa championship game
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That's how basketball is supposed to be played.
I've said many times in this BB forum that basketball has become a full contact sport or street ball.
I know this will elicit a number of groans, but I think Iowa still plays the game a bit like this (i.e. play defense without fouling). Unfortunately, we are an outlier in a game full of defenses that pride themselves on being "physical."
Jump ball at beginning. Opposing center lets Lew Alcindor (Kareem) jump by himself and tries to block where he tips the ball. 
Then, on UCLA's 1st possession, who brings up the ball when there is a little pressure? The over 7 foot tall center, Alcindor.
Look at the defense. Look where shots are taken from. Different game.
Then, on UCLA's 1st possession, who brings up the ball when there is a little pressure? The over 7 foot tall center, Alcindor.
Look at the defense. Look where shots are taken from. Different game.
No groans from me. IOWA tries to play based on how the freedom of movement rules are written, but its simply not officiated that way - especially in the Big Ten.
By design, basketball is supposed to be closer to volleyball than football,... somewhere along the way we seem to have lost that understanding...
Yes, often there is 3-4 feet between a defender and the guy he is guarding, especially on the perimeter. With no 3 point basket the rule was to try not to let a perimeter player past you on a drive to the bucket. Very little bodying up and chesting up an offensive player.Jump ball at beginning. Opposing center lets Lew Alcindor (Kareem) jump by himself and tries to block where he tips the ball.
Then, on UCLA's 1st possession, who brings up the ball when there is a little pressure? The over 7 foot tall center, Alcindor.
Look at the defense. Look where shots are taken from. Different game.
Now Dolph Pulliam of Drake in 68 and '69 really played that belly button defense and the game started to change.
The frame rate might have slowed it down some but remember those late '60s Alcindor teams had Lucius Allen and Mike Warren at guard and they could fly downcourt on the fast break.
Thanks for sharing the clip. College basketball is becoming brutal to watch … following right in the path of the NBA… so many bad passes, so many bad shots… or, lack of passing… Every player thinks he’s a 3-point shooter. College game continues to get worse …
Didn't watch the whole thing but never once saw Kareem, or anyone else, get the ball outside and "back" (ie push) their way to the hoop.
The "let 'em play" mentality may sound good, but it just devolves into the bump and grab thing that passes for basketball today.
The "let 'em play" mentality may sound good, but it just devolves into the bump and grab thing that passes for basketball today.
And you don't think things may have been a bit different then if there was a shot clock and a 3-point line? Pete Maravich would have had 50 a game.
The shot clock would have made no difference to Pete/LSU. They averaged 75 shots/game the was it was. Iowa's offense oriented team only averages about 62 in today's shot clock game. Maybe the 3 pointer would have gotten him up to 50/ games, since he was already at 44/game the way it was...
Iowa's '69-70 team averaged 100 points per game in the Big 10 without the shot clock or 3 point shot.
Correct. Today's Iowa team averages 62 FGA/game compared to '69-'70's, 72 FGA/game average. It was later after Bobby Knight fouling defense, 4 corners and Judd ( others ) holding the ball because they had no chance to win straight up...
Agree with above thoughts. But I couldn't help noticing how less athletic those players looked compared to today, especially ball handling.
As far as contact and physicality, I think somewhere in between 1969 and today would be better.
As far as contact and physicality, I think somewhere in between 1969 and today would be better.
This is why I'm on the side of having the officials call everything, particularly on the perimeter. It will be ugly, 60 Ft games, numerous guys fouling out each game, lots of stoppages for inbounds and FTs. However, long term, it will clean up the game.
This is what the NBA did in the early/mid 2000s. It was ugly for a couple of years. But the product was better after doing it than it was before.
This is what the NBA did in the early/mid 2000s. It was ugly for a couple of years. But the product was better after doing it than it was before.
The NBA game is better to watch because it’s officiated consistently. You might not like how the NBA game is played, but the officiating is so much better. College bball becomes so much more physical as the season progresses as well. That KU OK St game last night was the most physical game I’ve seen all year.
Here is the predecessor to that game - UCLA v. Drake. Gallant effort by Drake. Bear with the first minute or so, as the video kicks in shortly. The first half is also available on YouTube.
Funny thing is, if you look at shooting percentages in the 60s and 70s, they are absolutely terrible compared to now. They played really fast, but really inefficiently, which is why the rebounding numbers from the 70s will never be matched again. I agree there needs to be some kind of middle ground on styles.
