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Ben...Ben...Ben....

That's what I love about HROT. The people who have no reservations about calling a distinguished brain surgeon stupid about medicine.

The guy touted a quack cure for cancer - a cancer this cure didn't CURE. His skills notwithstanding, that's idiotic.
Have medicines ever been made out of tree bark?

Aspirin...from the bark of the willow tree.

And mstp beat me to it. So what now, LC?
 
probably, I recall lining up in elementary school in Ottumwa in the 1970's like a Nazi boot camp and all of us having to "take our medicine"- like it or not. we also had square dancing in gym class and the Baptists got a religious exemption, so there's that. we also all went into the auditorium around Christmas time and sang the same Christmas songs I've heard in church-talking about baby jesus. I doubt that is done now.
I just don't know how to respond to this...............................................
 
I have no idea, I haven't read up on it at all. I am just scared to question a black guy in fear of being called a racist.
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Ben Carson Wants to Censor Speech on College Campuses
On a Wednesday afternoon episode of the Glenn Beck Radio Program, Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson advocated censorship of "extreme political bias" on college campuses.

During the "rapid-fire" component of the program, Beck asked whether Carson would shut down the Department of Education. Carson responded that he had a plan to make the federal agency useful.

"I actually have something I would use the Department of Education to do," Carson said. "It would be to monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny federal funding if it exists."

This is not the first time that Carson has spoken about the need to eradicate alleged political bias from college classrooms. In June, he offered the same idea while appearing as a guest on a Las Vegas radio show.

Carson often complains that the United States is weighed down by what he calls a "PC culture." It seems that his defense of intemperate speech doesn't extend to political speech that he finds objectionable.
 
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I would assume that the usual suspects on this board would LOL at the very idea.
Tree bark medicine? Numerous, perhaps countless drugs have been discovered from compounds in nature. Too bad people like you who don't understand basic science fail to see how a changing climate is taking those cures from us, and creating more ills every day.
 
Ben Carson Wants to Censor Speech on College Campuses
On a Wednesday afternoon episode of the Glenn Beck Radio Program, Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson advocated censorship of "extreme political bias" on college campuses.

During the "rapid-fire" component of the program, Beck asked whether Carson would shut down the Department of Education. Carson responded that he had a plan to make the federal agency useful.

"I actually have something I would use the Department of Education to do," Carson said. "It would be to monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny federal funding if it exists."

This is not the first time that Carson has spoken about the need to eradicate alleged political bias from college classrooms. In June, he offered the same idea while appearing as a guest on a Las Vegas radio show.

Carson often complains that the United States is weighed down by what he calls a "PC culture." It seems that his defense of intemperate speech doesn't extend to political speech that he finds objectionable.

You know, places like Liberty University and others should be terrified of things like this. Something tells me they aren't too worried though.
 
Well, it's understandable that you'd have a problem recognizing the truth, as you've demonstrated your ignorance of and disdain for scientific evidence on innumerable occasions by buying into the pseudoscience of climate change denialism.
There's a difference between denying climate change exists and denying that it's being caused by people. There is "science" both ways.
 
Tree bark medicine? Numerous, perhaps countless drugs have been discovered from compounds in nature. Too bad people like you who don't understand basic science fail to see how a changing climate is taking those cures from us, and creating more ills every day.
Damn Mother Nature!
 
"I actually have something I would use the Department of Education to do," Carson said. "It would be to monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny federal funding if it exists."
Unfortunately, like a lot of Republicans, Carson seems to think that facts, science and logic are all examples of extreme political bias.

Just think how much better educated America will become once we've gotten facts, science and logic out of higher education.
 
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Ben Carson is comparing abortion to slavery, saying both actions deny rights.

“During slavery – and I know that’s one of those words you’re not supposed to say, but I’m saying it – during slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to the slave,” Carson said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday.
“What if the abolitionists had said, ‘I don’t believe in slavery, I think it’s wrong, but you guys do whatever you want to do?’ ” he added.

Carson said the prevalence of abortion has created a culture that pits mothers against their children.

“In the ideal situation, the mother should not believe that the baby is her enemy and should not be looking to terminate the baby,” he said. “You know, things are set up in such a way that the person in the world who has the greatest interest in protecting the baby is the mother.”

“We've allowed the purveyors of the vision to make mothers think that that baby is their enemy and that they have a right to kill it. Can you see how perverted that line of thinking is?” he asked.

Carson also reiterated his pro-life position, saying he would not support abortion in cases of rape and incest.

“Rape and incest, I would not be in favor of killing a baby because the baby came about in that way,” Carson said. “And all you have to do is go and look up the many stories of people who have led very useful lives who were the result of rape or incest.”

The retired neurosurgeon running for president said he “would love to see” Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, overturned.
 
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When he's making completely unsubstantiated claims OUTSIDE his field of expertise, he is most assuredly acting 'stupid', or pandering to a voting base.

One of the more humorous jokes among med students and doctors is:

"Where do you hide something from a surgeon?"
"In a book."

This is just flat out untrue and is frankly completely distanced from any semblance of reality.

It takes much longer to complete surgical residencies than medicine, FP or peds, and largely because of the vast fund of knowledge. And the surgical subspecialties are generally the hardest to enter from medical school, generally attracting the best and most well-read students. Simply put, you will read more en route to becoming a surgeon than you will a non-surgeon. But lets not let facts get in the way of a silly diatribe.

The joke and much of the content seem likely from an internist harboring resentment. Being a great surgeon is far more than just "becoming ambidextrous" because you use your opposite hand, etc. It comes far more from understanding issues like complex fluid and electrolyte management (the type of thing often taught in books, it turns out), bioengineering, laser physics, robotics, histopathology, and the vast array of surgical literature that changes every month, just as medical literature does.

The actual surgery believe it or not can require a great deal of written preparation. But most of a surgeon's duties are outside of the operating room, rounding on complex ICU patients, seeing pre and postop (and nonsurgical) patients clinic and managing their medical issues. Medical issues as complex or more complex than those of a non-surgeons.

Here's just the current issue of just one Neurosurgery journal, but it's light reading lol:


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What is the Surgical Benefit of Utilizing 5-Aminolevulinic Acid for Fluorescence-Guided Surgery of Malignant Gliomas?
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Elevated Baseline C-Reactive Protein as a Predictor of Outcome After Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Data From the Simvastatin in Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage (STASH)...
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The Neurological Compromised Spine Due to Ewing Sarcoma. What First: Surgery or Chemotherapy? Therapy, Survival, and Neurological Outcome of 15 Cases With Primary Ewing Sarcoma of...
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Well, it's understandable that you'd have a problem recognizing the truth, as you've demonstrated your ignorance of and disdain for scientific evidence on innumerable occasions by buying into the pseudoscience of climate change denialism.

Not defending Ben, but a lot of today's science is tomorrow's science fiction. That is fact.
 
This is just flat out untrue and is frankly completely distanced from any semblance of reality.

It takes much longer to complete surgical residencies than medicine, FP or peds, and largely because of the vast fund of knowledge. And the surgical subspecialties are generally the hardest to enter from medical school, generally attracting the best and most well-read students. Simply put, you will read more en route to becoming a surgeon than you will a non-surgeon. But lets not let facts get in the way of a silly diatribe.

The joke and much of the content seem likely from an internist harboring resentment. Being a great surgeon is far more than just "becoming ambidextrous" because you use your opposite hand, etc. It comes far more from understanding issues like complex fluid and electrolyte management (the type of thing often taught in books, it turns out), bioengineering, laser physics, robotics, histopathology, and the vast array of surgical literature that changes every month, just as medical literature does.

The actual surgery believe it or not can require a great deal of written preparation. But most of a surgeon's duties are outside of the operating room, rounding on complex ICU patients, seeing pre and postop (and nonsurgical) patients clinic and managing their medical issues. Medical issues as complex or more complex than those of a non-surgeons.

Here's just the current issue of just one Neurosurgery journal, but it's light reading lol:


November 2015 - Volume 77 - Issue 5
pp: 663-839,E831-E845,N10-N11
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What is the Surgical Benefit of Utilizing 5-Aminolevulinic Acid for Fluorescence-Guided Surgery of Malignant Gliomas?
Hadjipanayis, Costas G.; Widhalm, Georg; Stummer, Walter
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The Recent Revolution in the Design and Manufacture of Cranial Implants: Modern Advancements and Future Directions
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Elevated Baseline C-Reactive Protein as a Predictor of Outcome After Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Data From the Simvastatin in Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage (STASH)...
Turner, Carole L.; Budohoski, Karol; Smith, Christopher; More
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Randomized Controlled Trial of Minimally Invasive Sacroiliac Joint Fusion Using Triangular Titanium Implants vs Nonsurgical Management for Sacroiliac Joint Dysfunction: 12-Month...
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The Use of the Pipeline Embolization Device in the Management of Recurrent Previously Coiled Cerebral Aneurysms
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Sinus Wall Resurfacing for Patients With Temporal Bone Venous Sinus Diverticulum and Ipsilateral Pulsatile Tinnitus
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The Neurological Compromised Spine Due to Ewing Sarcoma. What First: Surgery or Chemotherapy? Therapy, Survival, and Neurological Outcome of 15 Cases With Primary Ewing Sarcoma of...
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Effect of Carotid Revascularization Endarterectomy Versus Stenting Trial Results on the Performance of Carotid Artery Stent Placement and Carotid Endarterectomy in the United...
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Seizure Outcomes in Patients With Surgically Treated Cerebral Arteriovenous Malformations
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Neurocognitive Changes Associated With Surgical Resection of Left and Right Temporal Lobe Glioma
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Prediction of Quality of Life and Survival After Surgery for Symptomatic Spinal Metastases: A Multicenter Cohort Study to Determine Suitability for Surgical Treatment
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Neural Placode Tissue Derived From Myelomeningocele Repair Serves as a Viable Source of Oligodendrocyte Progenitor Cells
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Side-To-Side Nerve Bridges Support Donor Axon Regeneration Into Chronically Denervated Nerves and Are Associated With Characteristic Changes in Schwann Cell Phenotype
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Totally unnecessary waste of space.
 
This is just flat out untrue and is frankly completely distanced from any semblance of reality.

It takes much longer to complete surgical residencies than medicine, FP or peds, and largely because of the vast fund of knowledge. And the surgical subspecialties are generally the hardest to enter from medical school, generally attracting the best and most well-read students. Simply put, you will read more en route to becoming a surgeon than you will a non-surgeon. But lets not let facts get in the way of a silly diatribe.

The joke and much of the content seem likely from an internist harboring resentment. Being a great surgeon is far more than just "becoming ambidextrous" because you use your opposite hand, etc. It comes far more from understanding issues like complex fluid and electrolyte management (the type of thing often taught in books, it turns out), bioengineering, laser physics, robotics, histopathology, and the vast array of surgical literature that changes every month, just as medical literature does.

The actual surgery believe it or not can require a great deal of written preparation. But most of a surgeon's duties are outside of the operating room, rounding on complex ICU patients, seeing pre and postop (and nonsurgical) patients clinic and managing their medical issues. Medical issues as complex or more complex than those of a non-surgeons.

Here's just the current issue of just one Neurosurgery journal, but it's light reading lol:


November 2015 - Volume 77 - Issue 5
pp: 663-839,E831-E845,N10-N11
Table of Contents Outline
Subscribe to eTOC

What is the Surgical Benefit of Utilizing 5-Aminolevulinic Acid for Fluorescence-Guided Surgery of Malignant Gliomas?
Hadjipanayis, Costas G.; Widhalm, Georg; Stummer, Walter
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The Recent Revolution in the Design and Manufacture of Cranial Implants: Modern Advancements and Future Directions
Bonda, David J.; Manjila, Sunil; Selman, Warren R.; More
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Elevated Baseline C-Reactive Protein as a Predictor of Outcome After Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Data From the Simvastatin in Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage (STASH)...
Turner, Carole L.; Budohoski, Karol; Smith, Christopher; More
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Randomized Controlled Trial of Minimally Invasive Sacroiliac Joint Fusion Using Triangular Titanium Implants vs Nonsurgical Management for Sacroiliac Joint Dysfunction: 12-Month...
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Sinus Wall Resurfacing for Patients With Temporal Bone Venous Sinus Diverticulum and Ipsilateral Pulsatile Tinnitus
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The Neurological Compromised Spine Due to Ewing Sarcoma. What First: Surgery or Chemotherapy? Therapy, Survival, and Neurological Outcome of 15 Cases With Primary Ewing Sarcoma of...
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Effect of Carotid Revascularization Endarterectomy Versus Stenting Trial Results on the Performance of Carotid Artery Stent Placement and Carotid Endarterectomy in the United...
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Cost Comparison of Surgical and Endovascular Treatment of Unruptured Giant Intracranial Aneurysms
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Seizure Outcomes in Patients With Surgically Treated Cerebral Arteriovenous Malformations
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Patient Satisfaction and Short-Term Outcome in Elective Cranial Neurosurgery
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Neurocognitive Changes Associated With Surgical Resection of Left and Right Temporal Lobe Glioma
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Prediction of Quality of Life and Survival After Surgery for Symptomatic Spinal Metastases: A Multicenter Cohort Study to Determine Suitability for Surgical Treatment
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Neural Placode Tissue Derived From Myelomeningocele Repair Serves as a Viable Source of Oligodendrocyte Progenitor Cells
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Side-To-Side Nerve Bridges Support Donor Axon Regeneration Into Chronically Denervated Nerves and Are Associated With Characteristic Changes in Schwann Cell Phenotype
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Well put, Guido!

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This is just flat out untrue and is frankly completely distanced from any semblance of reality.

It takes much longer to complete surgical residencies than medicine, FP or peds, and largely because of the vast fund of knowledge. And the surgical subspecialties are generally the hardest to enter from medical school, generally attracting the best and most well-read students. Simply put, you will read more en route to becoming a surgeon than you will a non-surgeon. But lets not let facts get in the way of a silly diatribe.

The joke and much of the content seem likely from an internist harboring resentment. Being a great surgeon is far more than just "becoming ambidextrous" because you use your opposite hand, etc. It comes far more from understanding issues like complex fluid and electrolyte management (the type of thing often taught in books, it turns out), bioengineering, laser physics, robotics, histopathology, and the vast array of surgical literature that changes every month, just as medical literature does.

The actual surgery believe it or not can require a great deal of written preparation. But most of a surgeon's duties are outside of the operating room, rounding on complex ICU patients, seeing pre and postop (and nonsurgical) patients clinic and managing their medical issues. Medical issues as complex or more complex than those of a non-surgeons.

Here's just the current issue of just one Neurosurgery journal, but it's light reading lol:


November 2015 - Volume 77 - Issue 5
pp: 663-839,E831-E845,N10-N11
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What is the Surgical Benefit of Utilizing 5-Aminolevulinic Acid for Fluorescence-Guided Surgery of Malignant Gliomas?
Hadjipanayis, Costas G.; Widhalm, Georg; Stummer, Walter
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The Recent Revolution in the Design and Manufacture of Cranial Implants: Modern Advancements and Future Directions
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Elevated Baseline C-Reactive Protein as a Predictor of Outcome After Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Data From the Simvastatin in Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage (STASH)...
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Randomized Controlled Trial of Minimally Invasive Sacroiliac Joint Fusion Using Triangular Titanium Implants vs Nonsurgical Management for Sacroiliac Joint Dysfunction: 12-Month...
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The Use of the Pipeline Embolization Device in the Management of Recurrent Previously Coiled Cerebral Aneurysms
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Sinus Wall Resurfacing for Patients With Temporal Bone Venous Sinus Diverticulum and Ipsilateral Pulsatile Tinnitus
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The Neurological Compromised Spine Due to Ewing Sarcoma. What First: Surgery or Chemotherapy? Therapy, Survival, and Neurological Outcome of 15 Cases With Primary Ewing Sarcoma of...
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Effect of Carotid Revascularization Endarterectomy Versus Stenting Trial Results on the Performance of Carotid Artery Stent Placement and Carotid Endarterectomy in the United...
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Cost Comparison of Surgical and Endovascular Treatment of Unruptured Giant Intracranial Aneurysms
Familiari, Pietro; Maldaner, Nicolai; Kursumovic, Adisa; More
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The Impact of Socioeconomic Status on the Utilization of Spinal Imaging
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Repeat Radiosurgery for Trigeminal Neuralgia
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Seizure Outcomes in Patients With Surgically Treated Cerebral Arteriovenous Malformations
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Patient Satisfaction and Short-Term Outcome in Elective Cranial Neurosurgery
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Neurocognitive Changes Associated With Surgical Resection of Left and Right Temporal Lobe Glioma
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Prediction of Quality of Life and Survival After Surgery for Symptomatic Spinal Metastases: A Multicenter Cohort Study to Determine Suitability for Surgical Treatment
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Commentary: Cost Comparison of Surgical and Endovascular Treatment of Unruptured Giant Intracranial Aneurysms
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Neural Placode Tissue Derived From Myelomeningocele Repair Serves as a Viable Source of Oligodendrocyte Progenitor Cells
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Side-To-Side Nerve Bridges Support Donor Axon Regeneration Into Chronically Denervated Nerves and Are Associated With Characteristic Changes in Schwann Cell Phenotype
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Carotid Endarterectomy Surgical Simulation Model Using a Bovine Placenta Vessel
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Thalamotomy-Like Effects From Partial Removal of a Ventral Intermediate Nucleus Deep Brain Stimulator Lead in a Patient With Essential Tremor: Case Report
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Oh cool! Mechanix Illustrated for surgeons.

Mechanix Illustrated definitely proves how well-read mechanics are, and how ready they are to be president.
 
This is just flat out untrue and is frankly completely distanced from any semblance of reality.

It takes much longer to complete surgical residencies than medicine, FP or peds, and largely because of the vast fund of knowledge. And the surgical subspecialties are generally the hardest to enter from medical school, generally attracting the best and most well-read students. Simply put, you will read more en route to becoming a surgeon than you will a non-surgeon. But lets not let facts get in the way of a silly diatribe.

The joke and much of the content seem likely from an internist harboring resentment. Being a great surgeon is far more than just "becoming ambidextrous" because you use your opposite hand, etc. It comes far more from understanding issues like complex fluid and electrolyte management (the type of thing often taught in books, it turns out), bioengineering, laser physics, robotics, histopathology, and the vast array of surgical literature that changes every month, just as medical literature does.

The actual surgery believe it or not can require a great deal of written preparation. But most of a surgeon's duties are outside of the operating room, rounding on complex ICU patients, seeing pre and postop (and nonsurgical) patients clinic and managing their medical issues. Medical issues as complex or more complex than those of a non-surgeons.

Here's just the current issue of just one Neurosurgery journal, but it's light reading lol:


November 2015 - Volume 77 - Issue 5
pp: 663-839,E831-E845,N10-N11
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What is the Surgical Benefit of Utilizing 5-Aminolevulinic Acid for Fluorescence-Guided Surgery of Malignant Gliomas?
Hadjipanayis, Costas G.; Widhalm, Georg; Stummer, Walter
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The Recent Revolution in the Design and Manufacture of Cranial Implants: Modern Advancements and Future Directions
Bonda, David J.; Manjila, Sunil; Selman, Warren R.; More
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Research-Human-Clinical Trials

Elevated Baseline C-Reactive Protein as a Predictor of Outcome After Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Data From the Simvastatin in Aneurysmal Subarachnoid Hemorrhage (STASH)...
Turner, Carole L.; Budohoski, Karol; Smith, Christopher; More
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Randomized Controlled Trial of Minimally Invasive Sacroiliac Joint Fusion Using Triangular Titanium Implants vs Nonsurgical Management for Sacroiliac Joint Dysfunction: 12-Month...
Polly, David W.; Cher, Daniel J.; Wine, Kathryn D.; More
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The Use of the Pipeline Embolization Device in the Management of Recurrent Previously Coiled Cerebral Aneurysms
Daou, Badih; Starke, Robert M.; Chalouhi, Nohra; More
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Sinus Wall Resurfacing for Patients With Temporal Bone Venous Sinus Diverticulum and Ipsilateral Pulsatile Tinnitus
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The Neurological Compromised Spine Due to Ewing Sarcoma. What First: Surgery or Chemotherapy? Therapy, Survival, and Neurological Outcome of 15 Cases With Primary Ewing Sarcoma of...
Mirzaei, Lida; Kaal, Suzanne E.J.; Schreuder, Hendrik W.B.; More
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Effect of Carotid Revascularization Endarterectomy Versus Stenting Trial Results on the Performance of Carotid Artery Stent Placement and Carotid Endarterectomy in the United...
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Cost Comparison of Surgical and Endovascular Treatment of Unruptured Giant Intracranial Aneurysms
Familiari, Pietro; Maldaner, Nicolai; Kursumovic, Adisa; More
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The Impact of Socioeconomic Status on the Utilization of Spinal Imaging
Derakhshan, Adeeb; Miller, Jacob; Lubelski, Daniel; More
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Repeat Radiosurgery for Trigeminal Neuralgia
Helis, Corbin A.; Lucas, John T. Jr; Bourland, J. Daniel; More
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Seizure Outcomes in Patients With Surgically Treated Cerebral Arteriovenous Malformations
von der Brelie, Christian; Simon, Matthias; Esche, Jonas; More
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Patient Satisfaction and Short-Term Outcome in Elective Cranial Neurosurgery
Reponen, Elina; Tuominen, Hanna; Hernesniemi, Juha; More
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Neurocognitive Changes Associated With Surgical Resection of Left and Right Temporal Lobe Glioma
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Prediction of Quality of Life and Survival After Surgery for Symptomatic Spinal Metastases: A Multicenter Cohort Study to Determine Suitability for Surgical Treatment
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Commentary: Cost Comparison of Surgical and Endovascular Treatment of Unruptured Giant Intracranial Aneurysms
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Neural Placode Tissue Derived From Myelomeningocele Repair Serves as a Viable Source of Oligodendrocyte Progenitor Cells
Mitra, Siddhartha S.; Feroze, Abdullah H.; Gholamin, Sharareh; More
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Side-To-Side Nerve Bridges Support Donor Axon Regeneration Into Chronically Denervated Nerves and Are Associated With Characteristic Changes in Schwann Cell Phenotype
Hendry, J. Michael; Alvarez-Veronesi, M. Cecilia; Snyder-Warwick, Alison; More
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Carotid Endarterectomy Surgical Simulation Model Using a Bovine Placenta Vessel
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Thalamotomy-Like Effects From Partial Removal of a Ventral Intermediate Nucleus Deep Brain Stimulator Lead in a Patient With Essential Tremor: Case Report
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Dude....it's a JOKE.

Not as good as the duck hunting one with surgeons, but still a good one...
 
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