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I'm saying I probably know more blacks than you do and hear why they vote how they do. I have a very large family who lives all over the country.

They range from pharmacists (legal) to Attorneys to Social Workers to Gas Station Workers to the chronically unemployed.

It was never so much about his views, it was more about supporting "one of our own". You'd be surprised how even some of the educated ones still try to justify Michael Brown as a victim. Maybe, you can be intelligent in one field and struggle in other areas?
How can you make this case knowing that black people have overwhelmingly voted Dem since 1936? They won't support the GOP because the GOP doesn't support them.
 
And you better know a lot of black people then. You're not the only one with black people in their family.
 
Why? Could it be because they don't like the policies of the GOP? You can't say in one breath they vote in lockstep for blacks and say in the other breath that they vote in lockstep for Dems.

You have a black Republican who benefitted from policies he now actively opposes. He says himself that the public school he attended was more rigorous than the private school he transferred from. His family likely got housing assistance, though he will neither confirm nor deny it. His family did receive food stamps. He did receive glasses through a public assistance program. He likely got into Yale because they were actively seeking qualified blacks - and he was undoubtedly qualified. He said himself that schools were flocking to him because of his color. Now he talks about ending the "culture of dependency"...but he has yet to explain why HE didn't become dependent.


I think you have an individual, who worked his tail off. Lots of people can get out of situations, it's up to them how much they want to reach their goals.

I don't believe your skin should be your sin. The road may be more difficult, but you can't let your situation or others view of how "you should be" define you.
 
I'm saying I probably know more blacks than you do and hear why they vote how they do. I have a very large family who lives all over the country.

They range from pharmacists (legal) to Attorneys to Social Workers to Gas Station Workers to the chronically unemployed.

It was never so much about his views, it was more about supporting "one of our own". You'd be surprised how even some of the educated ones still try to justify Michael Brown as a victim. Maybe, you can be intelligent in one field and struggle in other areas?

Ben Carson IS one of their own...and they DON'T support him. Obama received their support because they also supported what he stood for. Had he been a Republican espousing the same views as Carson, he would have received no support.
 
Ben Carson IS one of their own...and they DON'T support him. Obama received their support because they also supported what he stood for. Had he been a Republican espousing the same views as Carson, he would have received no support.


Unfortunately this isn't true. Obama didn't nearly do for blacks what they thought he would when he was elected.
 
I think you have an individual, who worked his tail off. Lots of people can get out of situations, it's up to them how much they want to reach their goals.

I don't believe your skin should be your sin. The road may be more difficult, but you can't let your situation or others view of how "you should be" define you.

That isn't the point. Would he have been successful WITHOUT govt assistance? HE said his grades improved dramatically when he got those free glasses. What might have happened if he hadn't gotten food stamps or housing support. You don't know and neither does he.
 
And why are you continuing to ignore the very plain fact that black people don't vote Republican no matter who is running? I'll tell you why. They don't support the Republican platform.
 
That isn't the point. Would he have been successful WITHOUT govt assistance? HE said his grades improved dramatically when he got those free glasses. What might have happened if he hadn't gotten food stamps or housing support. You don't know and neither does he.


If he didn't have the drive he could've been from a middle class white family and not amounted to a hill of beans.
 
And why are you continuing to ignore the very plain fact that black people don't vote Republican no matter who is running? I'll tell you why. They don't support the Republican platform.


I don't know if many blacks think about what their stances are on many issues. Like I said, you'd be surprised at why ppl vote for who they do.
 
I don't know if many blacks think about what their stances are on many issues. Like I said, you'd be surprised at why ppl vote for who they do.
Give it up, Swag. The lefties know people of color better than you:rolleyes:
 
So your argument is that black people tend to vote randomly?


I'm saying their just as informed as whites. Except they are also fed by the media and pop culture that they are victims.

Who would want to take blame for failing in life when you have an excuse made for you?
 
Give it up, Swag. The lefties know people of color better than you:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure he has a white mom. Does that mean he knows all whites better than we do too? Because he's black he knows blacks better than whites do? Does Ben Carson understand blacks better than Eminem? I don't know the answer to that question but I assume you do since you are well versed on racial interactions. What dumb response from someone claiming to be a doctor.
 
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I'm pretty sure he has a white mom. Does that mean he knows all whites better than we do too? Because he's black he knows blacks better than whites do? Does Ben Carson understand blacks better than Eminem? I don't know the answer to that question but I assume you do since you are well versed on racial interactions. What dumb response from someone claiming to be a doctor.


Im guessing I've been around blacks more than most posters here.
 
I'm pretty sure he has a white mom. Does that mean he knows all whites better than we do too? Because he's black he knows blacks better than whites do? Does Ben Carson understand blacks better than Eminem? I don't know the answer to that question but I assume you do since you are well versed on racial interactions. What dumb response from someone claiming to be a doctor.
What difference does it make that his mom is white? Does our president know blacks better than Swag?
 
What difference does it make that his mom is white? Does our president know blacks better than Swag?

I don't know. You made the claim. You tell us. You seem to think because Swag is black that he knows blacks better than anyone else on this board. I'm saying that is an absurd assumption as you don't know anyone on this board outside of their handle and posting content. WaHawk is from two black parents so he would get my vote as "HNIC" if we were voting on such matters.
 
I'm saying I probably know more blacks than you do and hear why they vote how they do. I have a very large family who lives all over the country.

They range from pharmacists (legal) to Attorneys to Social Workers to Gas Station Workers to the chronically unemployed.

It was never so much about his views, it was more about supporting "one of our own". You'd be surprised how even some of the educated ones still try to justify Michael Brown as a victim. Maybe, you can be intelligent in one field and struggle in other areas?
It's called being perfectly human. Few people ever are well balanced in all of the major areas of life. Anybody who says they are does not have enough humility.
 
I don't know. You made the claim. You tell us. You seem to think because Swag is black that he knows blacks better than anyone else on this board. I'm saying that is an absurd assumption as you don't know anyone on this board outside of their handle and posting content. WaHawk is from two black parents so he would get my vote as "HNIC" if we were voting on such matters.
So you are saying you don't know why you claimed Swag's mom is white?
 
So you are saying you don't know why you claimed Swag's mom is white?

Do you follow logic? Because you don't seem to be following your own. You stated that because Swag is black he knows more about blacks than anyone else. His dad is black. His mom is white, so following your logic he should know more about whites too because his mom is white. See how silly your initial comment was?

If you're actually asking why I claimed Swag's mom was white, it's because she is in fact actually a Caucasian female as he's stated many times before.
 
Do you follow logic? Because you don't seem to be following your own. You stated that because Swag is black he knows more about blacks than anyone else. His dad is black. His mom is white, so following your logic he should know more about whites too because his mom is white. See how silly your initial comment was?

If you're actually asking why I claimed Swag's mom was white, it's because she is in fact actually a Caucasian female as he's stated many times before.
If you will re read, I did not claim swag knew more about blacks. I made fun of you for claiming to know more than swag. You may, I just doubt it.
 
Well we're going to have to tally how many blacks WaHawk has encountered and how many "fake blacks" Aegon bounced with before we crown you "HNIC".


WaHawks and I know some of the same PPL. He's from Waterloo and I'm from Sioux City. There's a larger number of blacks in Waterloo than Sioux City.

As I said, I have a very large family (my dad is from the south originally and grew up on a cotton farm. Cliche I know) 8 boys and 4 girls. We're spread out everywhere from the West Coast to the East Coast. Out of the second generation we grew up in the Midwest and South.

From my grandparents there are close to 100 grandchildren. Keep in mind, this is just my fathers side of the family. This doesn't include blacks I had as friends from high school and college and then after.

From hearing WaHawks, I have a lot of similar experiences to his and not just white women (although, I never really got into the big ones)
 
If you will re read, I did not claim swag knew more about blacks. I made fun of you for claiming to know more than swag. You may, I just doubt it.

I guess I took your sarcastic post saying that "lefties know more about blacks than you (Swag) as you saying that Swag knows more about blacks than anyone in who associates with the Democratic party. Of course that's what you meant, but know decide to backpedal once you realized how absurd it was.
 
8 boys and 4 girls and 100 grandchildren.

So if my math is correct, each of the 12 kids (your dad, aunts, uncles, etc) each one of them had an average of 8 kids they've fathered or mothered? Maybe you could get the word out that condoms are available or have them work on the their "pull out technique". Glad to see you broke the tradition and only had 1 (so far).
 
Blacks need to wake up. The dems are putting them back into the chains of dependency. That is not real freedom.


Yes, that's what the wingnut echo chamber of hatred and lies would like for them to believe. Fortunately, most are too intelligent to fall for it.
 
So if my math is correct, each of the 12 kids (your dad, aunts, uncles, etc) each one of them had an average of 8 kids they've fathered or mothered? Maybe you could get the word out that condoms are available or have them work on the their "pull out technique". Glad to see you broke the tradition and only had 1 (so far).


My dad has 12 of his own.
 
If he didn't have the drive he could've been from a middle class white family and not amounted to a hill of beans.

So. What?

Would he have succeeded as he was without lots of govt assistance? You have no idea and neither does he. People with drive fail every day.
 
My dad has 12 of his own.

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