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Biden, Trump neck and neck nationally, in battleground states: CBS Poll

2020 showed us that hate for trump is stronger than love for trump. More people came out to vote against trump, than those who voted for him. By about 10 million votes. If Biden was running against anyone else, he'd lose.
Agreed. Especially when you add in the fact that a 2024 Trump term would be built on retribution and trying to save himself, his legacy, his brand, etc. (versus some irrational optimism of being an "outsider" in 2016). I think enough people understand that a lame duck Trump term built on this selfish foundation would be awful to experience and terrible for the country, so the only choice is to vote for Biden.
 
Agreed. Especially when you add in the fact that a 2024 Trump term would be built on retribution and trying to save himself, his legacy, his brand, etc.. I think enough people understand that a lame duck Trump term built on this selfish foundation would be awful to experience and terrible for the country, so the only choice is to vote for Biden.
All they have to do is tell people that a vote for Biden is a vote for law and order. If Trump is elected, no way the other trials (the more serious ones IMO) will happen. Voting for Trump is not letting the law hold someone accountable for their offenses.

I don't think there are enough voters willing to let a convict escape justice.
 
Now we have 4 years of Trump and 4 years of Biden to compare and contrast, we also have two old guys who are now 4 years even older to compare.

For me it's not a question of die hards in either direction... but who is more motivated among the non-diehards. Based on my two choices, I will be sitting out on the presidential vote. I have enough motivation to vote for the local stuff and amendments etc. But I am not interested in having either of those old dudes as president, and I'm not fond of Kamala as a back-up option for Joe... I suppose I could be swayed to vote for Trump depending on his running mate but there are better odds Britney Greiner is a dude than me voting for Trump.

This was my position in 2016 with Trump vs Clinton,.. I just voted the down ballot.
 
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Long term I don't think these NY state charges will be an issue for Trump,.. Will likely be rectified via mis-trial, appeal or supreme court decision...

I'm starting to think you're an excellent troll
 
If trump wins half of those battleground states, I’ll be very surprised.
Biden is really losing traction among black voters (81%) relative to Democrat's performance in the last 30 years:

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The GOP voters seem more inclined to vote:

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Saving them as screenshots so we can compare after the election.

Out of all the pages of the poll, this one stood out to me:

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Every election year since 2012 Democrats have tried to influence the outcome in some false or fraudulent manner.

2012 - Divided the country along racial lines.
2016 - Fake Russian hoax
2020 - Take advantage of Covid in fake ballots counting and casting.
2024 - Fake charges against #1 political opponent in Democrat ran courts.
 
Every election year since 2012 Democrats have tried to influence the outcome in some false or fraudulent manner.

2012 - Divided the country along racial lines.
2016 - Fake Russian hoax
2020 - Take advantage of Covid in fake ballots counting and casting.
2024 - Fake charges against #1 political opponent in Democrat ran courts.

Completely delusional
 
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It really is. Trump vs Biden again. Truly pitiful. The GOP could have picked DeSantis and for sure would have destroyed Biden.

The democrats were in a pickle with Biden and Kamala. 2028 should bring some new faces to the scene.
DeSantis would have had my vote.

Trump never will.

I am wrestling with the Biden vote because of his age. I may leave it blank on the ballot.
 
Now we have 4 years of Trump and 4 years of Biden to compare and contrast, we also have two old guys who are now 4 years even older to compare.

For me it's not a question of die hards in either direction... but who is more motivated among the non-diehards. Based on my two choices, I will be sitting out on the presidential vote. I have enough motivation to vote for the local stuff and amendments etc. But I am not interested in having either of those old dudes as president, and I'm not fond of Kamala as a back-up option for Joe... I suppose I could be swayed to vote for Trump depending on his running mate but there are better odds Britney Greiner is a dude than me voting for Trump.
Local elections are what drive my voting. Always have. And I agree that we have two of the worst options for president that I can remember. That said, I view trump as a serious threat to democracy, and will vote for whoever runs against him. Full stop.
 
Every election year since 2012 Democrats have tried to influence the outcome in some false or fraudulent manner.

2012 - Divided the country along racial lines.
2016 - Fake Russian hoax
2020 - Take advantage of Covid in fake ballots counting and casting.
2024 - Fake charges against #1 political opponent in Democrat ran courts.
Man, I don't know which of your 4 examples is the dumbest. You have outdone yourself.
 

you always look pathetic and desperate whenever bad Biden news comes out

if you start to drink tonight (lol...when you start to drink), just don't think about driving this time around. otherwise, you might have a law enforcement officer like @Hawkman98 in your rear view mirror with his lights flashing
 
Every election year since 2012 Democrats have tried to influence the outcome in some false or fraudulent manner.

2012 - Divided the country along racial lines.
2016 - Fake Russian hoax
2020 - Take advantage of Covid in fake ballots counting and casting.
2024 - Fake charges against #1 political opponent in Democrat ran courts.

Divided the country along racial lines. JFC. The Orange Turd is the ulimate racist.

You dummies claim voter fraud but can't come up with anything.

Fake Russian Hoax. It has been pointed out to you the Republican Senate Committee report confirmed Russia's involvement. Shut the fcvk up.

Covid fake ballots. Bullshit. Ballots are processed and accounted for individually. Each one. Every one.

Fake Charges. The Orange Turd is a lifetime criminal and fraud. He has defrauded, lied and cheated people his entire adult life, settling and facing hundreds of millions in settlements. He's a crook and facing charges of a conspiracy to overturn a presidential election. You may not listen to the news, but this is serious business.

You're obviously a conspiracy nut. A conservative media guru. You can't be reasoned with, so this post is an information platform.
 
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Divided the country along racial lines. JFC. The Orange Turd is the ulimate racist.

You dummies claim voter fraud but can't come up with anything.

Fake Russian Hoax. It has been pointed out to you the Republican Senate Committee report confirmed Russia's involvement. Shut the fcvk up.

Covid fake ballots. Bullshit. Ballots are processed and accounted for individually. Each one. Every one.

Fake Charges. The Orange Turd is a lifetime criminal and fraud. He has defrauded, lied and cheated people his entire adult life, settling and facing hundreds of millions in settlements. He's a crook and facing charges of a conspiracy to overturn a presidential election. You may not listen to the news, but this is serious business.

You're obviously a conspiracy nut. A conservative media guru. You can't be reasoned with, so this post is an information platform.
Now do Joe Biden: Everything he says is either an unchallenged lie like Trump said to ingest bleach, or it's unintelligible mumbling that can't be fact checked.

I'll play along the election was completely on the up and up. Joe legally secured the most votes in the history of american elections.

The released bank records show that businesses connected to the Biden family received more than $10 million from foreign companies, both during and after President Joe Biden’s vice presidency. Republicans have been investigating the Biden family’s business dealings for evidence of wrongdoing or conflicts of interest.

Previously, Biden has falsely denied claims that his family members received money from China. A spokesperson said later that he’d been generally rebutting claims that his administration was corrupted by Chinese money, according to a New York Times report.

These are 2 Shitty dudes, 2 Shitty Choices. One isn't better than the other.
 
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