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Biden's Final Pardons

We've gone full banana republic. Biden just cleared the way for Trump to reverse weaponize the DOJ, have operatives do anything they want to get political enemies, and then issue pardons to absolve any potential federal crime. Not to mention pardoning all J6ers regardless of crime. Biden's either the dumbest person ever to be president or so far down the dementia hole that he doesn't know what his handlers are having him do.
Hate to tell you this, but that started in 2016 so suck it up!
 
Parser (aka wwjd) used to be a very liberal, yet thinking, poster. Looks like he's gone full Biden.

Biden is a neoliberal. Those guys are typically about at "moderate" as one could imagine. They are basically "free market capitalists" that do poorly at advancing social issues.

I would say @What Would Jesus Do? is probably something closer to a Social Democrat, which would mostly look like the majority of what the left looks like in many European nations.
 
Nothing “secures the guardrails of democracy” like pre-emptive pardons.
I love when Biden shows Trump how to Trump.



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Trump has already promised to weaponize the DOJ. As has his choice for FBI director.

Understand, within the next few days Trump is going to pardon dozens, if not hundreds, of treasonists who attempted to violently overturn the results of our election, and he has promised to do everything in his power to pursue the good people who investigated what happened and why it happened. It takes a pretty reprehensible person to not grasp who vile and evil he is, and to not understand the reason the people he intends to harass should be protected.
Irrelevant, immaterial, and has no bearing on this case. He's gonna do it so I'm gonna beat him to it by doing it first is so stupid that's it's impossible to describe the depth of that stupidity in words.
 
Irrelevant, immaterial, and has no bearing on this case. He's gonna do it so I'm gonna beat him to it by doing it first is so stupid that's it's impossible to describe the depth of that stupidity in words.
You know stupidity so I think you can describe it. 🤣
 
Irrelevant, immaterial, and has no bearing on this case. He's gonna do it so I'm gonna beat him to it by doing it first is so stupid that's it's impossible to describe the depth of that stupidity in words.
This makes no sense. Trump has absolute power to weaponize the DoJ for any political purposes he wants. To claim that it's "immaterial" that he is threatening over and over that he will jail his political opponents is pure nonsense.
 
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Biden is a neoliberal. Those guys are typically about at "moderate" as one could imagine. They are basically "free market capitalists" that do poorly at advancing social issues.

I would say @What Would Jesus Do? is probably something closer to a Social Democrat, which would mostly look like the majority of what the left looks like in many European nations.
Labels do nothing to dispel his obvious descent into a non-thinking, ideological morass.
 
Parser (aka wwjd) used to be a very liberal, yet thinking, poster. Looks like he's gone full Biden.
I reluctantly voted for Biden in 2020. He surprised me with some good actions in his first 2 years on the pandemic, the environment, and rebuilding foreign alliances, but then disappointed down the home stretch (for a number of reasons but especially over Gaza and failing to withdraw from the race early enough to matter).
 
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Congress should move to limit presidential pardon power to convicted criminal acts...
Agreed!

I’m against what Biden has done with these although I understand the reasoning.

But the dam has broken and in four years we’re going to have more, and pretty soon we’ll have blanket pardons for Cabinet members and high-ranking officials all across the outgoing administration and Congressional allies.

We need more checks on bad behavior, not less.
 
None of these people did anything wrong. Some will obviously accept a pardon if for nothing else to avoid tremendously expensive litigation including huge legal (lawyer) fees. All will rightfully so insist upon their innocence.
 
You do understand why he felt he had to do it, right?

If so, why are you blaming him, rather than the malefactor he is trying to protect people from?
No. He’s a lying politician, talking out of both sides of his mouth. He swore for years he would never pardon his son and he did it.

Jesus. Within three years of HIS OWN administration, he went from talking about we need to “trust and respect the system and let it play out”, swearing how his DOJ would never be used to target people, to a complete 180 saying the system that found his son guilty was politicized and weaponized, leading him to pardon his son. Shocker I know.

If he’s gonna pre-emptive pardon these people, at least have the decency to say it’s because “I don’t want the next DOJ to be like my own DOJ.”

What does it say that he lost all confidence in the DOJ under his own watch?
 
Irrelevant, immaterial, and has no bearing on this case. He's gonna do it so I'm gonna beat him to it by doing it first is so stupid that's it's impossible to describe the depth of that stupidity in words.

First, you are ignoring the part that you have to be reprehensible not to understand the vileness of Trump's threats. I guess you acknowledge that.

Second, it is 100% relevant. If a group of people have not committed any crime, but an incoming President makes clear he intends to attack them with the full weight of the government, it is completely appropriate to protect them if you can. Again:
  • Trump intends to pardon criminals
  • Biden intends to pardon innocent people

This isn't complicated or morally ambiguous.
 
None of these people did anything wrong. Some will obviously accept a pardon if for nothing else to avoid tremendously expensive litigation including huge legal (lawyer) fees. All will rightfully so insist upon their innocence.

Perhaps some of them actually did do something wrong,.. If so, they can still be investigated and potentially proven guilty in the court of public opinion,.. That would be a great final chapter for Biden.
 
Oh , you have inside intel that Fauci lied to congress and you know what caused the covid outbreak. Please give us the exact evidence of the lying and covid causes that you have, I want to read it.
well now that all the censoring from the Biden Admin is done, you might start to see some of this come out
 
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it's so odd and sad to see parallels between this whitehouse transition and a withdrawal by troops getting overrun by enemy. can't wait to see more normal behavior even if corrupt by politicians but i think it will be many years yet if the new guys engage their own buffoonery. i don't think our leaders are going to set the right example, hope we the people start putting sane people in power starting at the local level.
 
It's odd to me OP is in such support of this corruption.

Obviously, if Biden really thought this was in the best interest of the country, and was doing it in good faith as a public servant, he'd have done it before his final 12 hours in office.

He may go down as not only one of our worst presidents, but most corrupt as well.
The soon to be President is the most corrupt by far in the history of the country, which is why Biden felt this was necessary.

That's what's going on here. Fascists like you always try to reverse the actual facts of any situation.

Trump has pledged to go after people for purely political reasons, he hasn't cited any crimes when he makes these threats, only that these people should be investigated and jailed because they oppose or defied him.

These threats against people solely for opposition/defiance should have been automatically disqualifying for Trump to get elected as local dog catcher, but the political culture of this country has become so degraded and degenerate over the last 8 years that it apparently didn't matter. As just one of a zillion other examples of the degeneracy, the committing of a fraud in the paying of hush money to a porn star he boffed shortly after his latest wife gave birth--people like you couldn't care less about either the debauchery of the episode itself or the committing of the fraud, in fact you have used it to ATTACK the perceived political opposition.

Just look at the last 72 hrs, Trump has launched an unprecedented grifting operation to enrich himself personally and set up another direct bribery option for domestic and foreign individuals/entities. I bet you haven't said a peep about that other than to use it to somehow find another way to attack Democrats.

Shove your blathering about corruption up your corrupt MAGA bleepity bleep.
 
The soon to be President is the most corrupt by far in the history of the country, which is why Biden felt this was necessary.

That's what's going on here. Fascists like you always try to reverse the actual facts of any situation.

Trump has pledged to go after people for purely political reasons, he hasn't cited any crimes when he makes these threats, only that these people should be investigated and jailed because they oppose or defied him.

These threats against people solely for opposition/defiance should have been automatically disqualifying for Trump to get elected as local dog catcher, but the political culture of this country has become so degraded and degenerate over the last 8 years that it apparently didn't matter. As just one of a zillion other examples of the degeneracy, the committing of a fraud in the paying of hush money to a porn star he boffed shortly after his latest wife gave birth--people like you couldn't care less about either the debauchery of the episode itself or the committing of the fraud, in fact you have used it to ATTACK the perceived political opposition.

Just look at the last 72 hrs, Trump has launched an unprecedented grifting operation to enrich himself personally and set up another direct bribery option for domestic and foreign individuals/entities. I bet you haven't said a peep about that other than to use it to somehow find another way to attack Democrats.

Shove your blathering about corruption up your corrupt MAGA bleepity bleep.
It must be exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to convince yourself you haven't been gleefully wrong about almost everything for 10 years.
 
It must be exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to convince yourself you haven't been gleefully wrong about almost everything for 10 years.
Name one specific thing from my post or your post I responded to that I got wrong. One damn thing.

Examples of "gleefully wrong about almost everything for 10 years"?

One of the scary things about this country these days is that tens of millions of people like you who have gleefully adopted the totalitarian mindset per politics and how you judge "wrong" vs the opposite, one of the big reasons the country has gone into the ditch.

There isn't any bottom to the depravity and degeneracy that you'll either excuse or try to turn around. No bottom, see who's getting inaugurated as President today for the proof.
 
Fauci needs to be summoned to congress tomorrow to answer questions and he needs to answer questions until the nation is satisfied. Very first question needs to be whether our country was funding gain of function research in Wuhan directly or indirectly. Let hang himself directly or indirectly.
 
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Name one specific thing from my post or your post I responded to that I got wrong. One damn thing.

Examples of "gleefully wrong about almost everything for 10 years"?

One of the scary things about this country these days is that tens of millions of people like you who have gleefully adopted the totalitarian mindset per politics and how you judge "wrong" vs the opposite, one of the big reasons the country has gone into the ditch.

There isn't any bottom to the depravity and degeneracy that you'll either excuse or try to turn around. No bottom, see who's getting inaugurated as President today for the proof.
You mad bro?

You realize you have done or are doing everything you're accusing right leaning moderates of don't you?

Look in a mirror. One time.

There is good reason the moderates of the country sided with Trump. It's time for acceptance.
 
You mad bro?

You realize you have done or are doing everything you're accusing right leaning moderates of don't you?

Look in a mirror. One time.

There is good reason the moderates of the country sided with Trump. It's time for acceptance.
Yep, just as I figured. Name one damn thing I got wrong, name one damn thing I've done or are doing that I'm accusing "right leaning moderates" of doing? One damn thing. You just can't, can you.

"Right leaning moderates"? That's what you Tik Tok fascists are calling yourselves these days? Talk about needing to look in the mirror.
 
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