Blair/others: Will Sampson Evans rating go up?
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Obviously the 2star business is poppycock. Whether or not it changes we know he's better than that. I believe ESPN has him at 76 which is a solid mid 3 star. Excited to see him as well.
If that kid is a 2 star then the state of Illinois HS football is in dire shape , kid was 2 time POY I think and He is better than a 5.4 . I bet He is returning punts very soon for Iowa and in some slot packages
It was weird he was downgraded. I figured it was just some sort of mistake.
What evaluators will say is:
- He's not a "true" QB - so they have to project him at a position where he's seen no reps. That already influences the evaluation.
- Most evaluators would likely rate him higher if they thought that he'd land on the defensive side of the ball - but he's made it pretty clear that he has a very strong preference to play on O. Most evaluators would say that he doesn't have elite speed - so that automatically counts against him as an ATH on the offensive side of the ball.
- Most evaluators would also remark that his high school team had something like 2 or 3 D1 O-line recruits on it - thus, they'd consequently count that against him. The claim would be that much of his production was attributable to high-quality blocking.
Anyhow, while the evaluators can rationalize the aforementioned projections of Evans ... it doesn't change the fact that the kid is a winner! Furthermore, suppose that Evans had really hit the camp circuit hard at WR and blew those camps up .... he wouldn't have changed as a player, since he'd still primarily be a running QB on his high school team ... and his play would still be dominant. However, the difference in perception would be huge. Although he'd be the same exact player, he would have received more offers and he'd be evaluated much more highly (as a WR recruit).
This sort of scenario nicely demonstrates what is broken about the rating system.
This sort of scenario nicely demonstrates what is broken about the rating system.
Also, linderbaum made the u.s. army all American Bowl, pretty prestigious, but is only the minimum 5.5 3 star recruit? Same with Geil. Had a great year and is prototypical size, and also minimum 5.5 3 Star? Including Evans, all 3 feel under ranked for sure.
It's interesting to remember that Melvin Gordon wasn't a ridiculously highly rated recruit either (for much of his recruitment, he was a 3-star ... got bumped up to 4-star pretty late) ... and Wisco swept in pretty late in the game to land him.
Given the no-brainer talent that Gordon seemed to have ... seems an oversight that he wasn't a 4-star guy by everybody much earlier in the game.
Given the no-brainer talent that Gordon seemed to have ... seems an oversight that he wasn't a 4-star guy by everybody much earlier in the game.
Because he went from an Iowa commit to a Wiscy commit...Iowa gets screwed in this game...
Just had to say it whether true or not, since that is our mantra around recruiting rankings...
What??? Who cares what recruit rankings are - can they play, do they have intangibles, do they fit the culture, what is their ceiling - this is what you should care about not some ranking from a 22 yr old watching Hudl
Evans scored 121 TDs in high school !!
I can't get over that stat. Some how, Ferentz was able to look past just how self-centered this kid is when he extended a scholarship offer. I mean, couldn't he have slid down just short of the goal line a few times and let someone else score?
I can't get over that stat. Some how, Ferentz was able to look past just how self-centered this kid is when he extended a scholarship offer. I mean, couldn't he have slid down just short of the goal line a few times and let someone else score?
I watched a kid at a local HS near me throw 229 TDs over three years starting. He's the starter now for the Washington Huskies.
Yep, you could call it the Oliver Martin scenario, but I'm sure it happened long before him. Nobody seemed to know who he was, until he started blowing up the camp circuit. I like players like Evans ending up as Hawks. Everybody is still convinced we only have 2 star talent, and we slide in kids like this who are simply under evaluated.
Evans was an exceptional player in HS but there is some truth to the fact he played QB for 3 years and he won't be playing it in college. Really he was a RB who threw every now and then. He has some speed but he's also strong for a HS player so he was able to break some tackles. Also, most HS teams aren't used to the offense that Prairie Ridge runs. The other school that runs the same offense is Cary Grove and when PR and CG play each other, it's usually a low scoring game (if I'm remembering correctly). So the point is, while Evans is really good (and glad to have him at Iowa), some of his success might be because of the offense that PR runs.
The change from 3-star to 2-star just happened last week, so I doubt they raise it again FWIW.
It's not something I agree with if that's what you're asking.
Hooooorrrreyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sheeeeeeeeet.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/jake-browning-8429
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/high-school/article26250742.html
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2015/jake-browning-8429
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/high-school/article26250742.html
I know he’s played O his whole football career but i
hope they talk 2 him about playing safety looks like he’d be a good D back. And maybe some punt return!
hope they talk 2 him about playing safety looks like he’d be a good D back. And maybe some punt return!
He is 6 ft tall 200lbs and has avg to below avg speed and below average (if not well below avg) quickness/elusive abiltity for an offensive player based on what i have watched.
If he's not willing to move to safety I don't see how he gets any time on the field at Iowa. I'm not sure he's even as good of an athlete as Boyle is and he's soon to be out of the program
Even with Iowas lack of Playmakers on offense right now it still takes a phenomenal athlete to see the field and or make an impact at this level
Sounds like a great kid with a good attitude and all the other intangibles you like to see but the bottom line is you got to be pretty special
If he's not willing to move to safety I don't see how he gets any time on the field at Iowa. I'm not sure he's even as good of an athlete as Boyle is and he's soon to be out of the program
Even with Iowas lack of Playmakers on offense right now it still takes a phenomenal athlete to see the field and or make an impact at this level
Sounds like a great kid with a good attitude and all the other intangibles you like to see but the bottom line is you got to be pretty special
I guess we will see. He has a faster shuttle time than Cameron Brown who is almost a 4 star composite on 247.
About the same 40 time as Tyrone Tracy and a much faster shuttle time than him.
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Oh boy, you're lucky Herby is temporarily gone again....
Coaches requested the star demotion to keep poacher off the kid???
