Boeheim says Delany is smart bringing BTT to DC and NYC

[Franisdaman]

The ACC tournament traditionally is in Greensboro NC. With the additions of Syracuse and Pitt, the tournament got moved to Washington DC last year and Brooklyn this year.

Sound familiar?

From ESPN.com:

BROOKLYN, N.Y. -- Suffice it to say Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim is not a big fan of Greensboro, North Carolina, the traditional site of the ACC tournament.

Given a soft-toss question after his team's loss to Miami about playing in his home state of New York, Boeheim instead used the opportunity to riff on why the league should not play its future tourneys in Greensboro -- as in ever.

"There's no reason to play in Greensboro,'' he said Wednesday. "The only reason they play there is because the league offices are there, it's always been there and there are like 150 people who like to have meetings. It should not be there.''

The ACC used the recent addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh to expand its reach to Northeast sites, bringing the tournament to Washington, D.C., last season and Brooklyn this year. The Big Ten, with Maryland and Rutgers expanding its league footprint, has followed suit. Its tourney is in Washington this week and will move up a week in 2018 in order to play at Madison Square Garden in New York.

Boeheim -- whose team used to participate in the Big East tournament at Madison Square Garden -- argued that the value of playing in bigger markets is far greater than keeping up with the same old, same old.

"The media centers, the recruiting centers are Atlanta, Washington, D.C., and New York,'' he said. "How many good players are in Greensboro? New York made the Big East.''

The city of Greensboro, replying to a tweet about Boeheim's comments, took a pointed, yet lighthearted approach, tweeting that Syracuse "can lose in the first round anywhere."

Boeheim admitted that his announced retirement after the 2018 season made him feel less handcuffed about speaking his mind -- though the Hall of Fame coach is rarely shy about his opinions regardless of his tenure.

"I'm saying all of this because I don't give a s---,'' he said with a chuckle. "But this is what's right. Why do you think the Big Ten is coming to New York City? It's a good business decision. Everyone says this is all about business. Well that's a good business decision.''

Brooklyn was chosen as the site of the ACC tournament in March 2014. Since then, several ACC events have been moved as a result of House Bill 2 in North Carolina. The ACC men's basketball tournament, which will return to Brooklyn next year, is not due back in North Carolina until 2019 in Charlotte and 2020 in Greensboro.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...nt-acc-tournament-games-moved-back-greensboro

 

[SotaHawk87]

What a dick bag! Love what they wrote back about losing LOL..

 

[td77]

He's saying that because he's butt hurt that the ACC wants to move the tourney to Greensboro.

 

[DanL53]

One has time for opinions when one has Lunardi on the sales team.

 

[Gridiron24]

The only reason they play the ACC tournament in Greensboro is because the league offices are there? ....right, Jim.

Greensboro Coliseum is one of the great historical arenas in the country and just happens to be an hour from Duke and North Carolina... two of the most-storied programs in NCAA history with two of the largest fan-bases in college basketball, both of whom have CARRIED THE ACC ON THEIR BACKS for decades.

 

[RocknRollface]

Boeheim is correct, as fsr as it concerns the big ten.

The radio guys in des moines are crying about playing the btt out east for two years.

They think its some short term play for money.

Its about exposure of the brand. A long term play that will help the conference in many ways, one of which is recruiting.

 

[C/Seahawk]

The only reason they play the ACC tournament in Greensboro is because the league offices are there? ....right, Jim.

Greensboro Coliseum is one of the great historical arenas in the country and just happens to be an hour from Duke and North Carolina... two of the most-storied programs in NCAA history with two of the largest fan-bases in college basketball, both of whom have CARRIED THE ACC ON THEIR BACKS for decades.

Greensboro Coliseum is one of the great venues in the country? How? Why? Honest question and I've been following college basketball for 35 years. Sure the arena has hosted some memorable games over the years, but Greensboro Coliseum is hardly a venue that comes to mind when thinking about great venues across the country? I think Jim is spot on...the ACC and NCAA have catered to UNC and Duke for 30+ years and having the ACC tourney within an hour drive from Duke and UNC benefits only two teams in that league (ok, three if Wake is above average). How often do Duke and UNC have clear paths to the sweet sixteen with games within their state? Their home town treatment is as obnoxious and irritating as listening to Dick Vitate. I'm with Jimmy on this one...there is no reason to hold the conference tourney in Greensboro. I love what the B1G is doing, bringing the conference to major markets like DC, NYC, Chicago, Indy, etc. Its great for all members of the conference, not just a select few.

 

[vgshwk]

I just don't see how playing in NYC a week earlier than anyone else is a good idea. If you were to win the btt on Sunday that would mean you would have to wait at least 11 days before you could play your NCAA tournament game.

 

[HawkLogic]

B1G is a Midwest league. Nobody out East will ever give a crap about college B-ball in Midwest.

This takes money generated by Midwest people and makes them spend it elsewhere. Wall street already makes a living by sucking money rest of USA

If by chance the exposure does help recruiting, Rutgers, PSU, and Maryland will be the ones that benefit.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

It really helped Rutgers being on the east coast with 400 fans there last night. Same for Penn State

 

[SotaHawk87]

It really helped Rutgers being on the east coast with 400 fans there last night. Same for Penn State

Hahaha! Such a friggn joke! Another person that just assumes East Coast are best for these Midwest institutions want..

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Just sounds like a butt-hurt old man who thinks everything was better back in the old days. Maybe he should have hung it up before 'cuse joined the ACC. If you're a basketball coach and you don't like the clear geographical advantages Duke and UNC seem to have every year in the conference and NCAA tourneys, then you should probably avoid the ACC.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Just sounds like a butt-hurt old man who thinks everything was better back in the old days. Maybe he should have hung it up before 'cuse joined the ACC. If you're a basketball coach and you don't like the clear geographical advantages Duke and UNC seem to have every year in the conference and NCAA tourneys, then you should probably avoid the ACC.

Yeah it was an odd reaction by Boeheim. If the ACC didn't take in Syracuse, where would the Orange be? The AAC? Something else? ACC has moved it around somewhat, but it doesn't appear to have hurt the ACC at all playing in Greensboro all these years. My personal opinion is the B1G should put the BTT in Indianapolis and leave it there.

 

[large78]

Boeheim is correct, as fsr as it concerns the big ten.

The radio guys in des moines are crying about playing the btt out east for two years.

They think its some short term play for money.

Its about exposure of the brand. A long term play that will help the conference in many ways, one of which is recruiting.

It's about money? Did you see how empty the arena was last night, and how empty it will be today? Why don't they move the ACC tournament to the Midwest for a year?

 

[RocknRollface]

It's about money? Did you see how empty the arena was last night, and how empty it will be today? Why don't they move the ACC tournament to the Midwest for a year?

I said thats not what it was for.

It was for long term brand building.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

It's about money? Did you see how empty the arena was last night, and how empty it will be today? Why don't they move the ACC tournament to the Midwest for a year?

I don't disagree, but I don't think Delaney really cares about butts in the seats. All about the TV $$$$

 

[RocknRollface]

B1G is a Midwest league. Nobody out East will ever give a crap about college B-ball in Midwest.

This takes money generated by Midwest people and makes them spend it elsewhere. Wall street already makes a living by sucking money rest of USA

If by chance the exposure does help recruiting, Rutgers, PSU, and Maryland will be the ones that benefit.

Thats just not true. The more kids become familiar with your product the more they see it as a viable option.

Fran has tried recruiting the east coast quite a bit, having the btt there every few years will only increase his odds.

 

[RocknRollface]

I don't disagree, but I don't think Delaney really cares about butts in the seats. All about the TV $$$$

Exactly, butts in the sests doesn't really matter to the conference anymore.

 

[Rudolph]

This is the B1G's first year trying this. Let's wait a few years to judge. As a branding/design consultant, putting the B1G Tourney in DC, then in MSG, is a smart risk.

Worst case scenario, it pays off mildly, some fans are alienated, you bring it back to Indianapolis/Chicago, and they'll get over it.

Best case scenario, the footprint grows.

My biggest concern with this approach, though, is that there is a point where "growth" becomes detrimental.

And there is something to be said for tradition.

I, for one, really miss the old Big East. As a kid in the early-to-mid 80s, I knew about two conferences: the Big Ten and the Big East.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

I just don't see how playing in NYC a week earlier than anyone else is a good idea. If you were to win the btt on Sunday that would mean you would have to wait at least 11 days before you could play your NCAA tournament game.

I agree. The B1G should of gone back to Chicago or Indianapolis in 2018 so there isn't a conflict forcing them to play a week earlier than normal. The only positive is the teams making the NCAA tourney will be well rested and hopefully ready to go come tournament time.

 

[HawkCat]

The only reason they play the ACC tournament in Greensboro is because the league offices are there? ....right, Jim.

Greensboro Coliseum is one of the great historical arenas in the country and just happens to be an hour from Duke and North Carolina... two of the most-storied programs in NCAA history with two of the largest fan-bases in college basketball, both of whom have CARRIED THE ACC ON THEIR BACKS for decades.

I work in Greensboro and am looking out the window at the Greensboro Coliseum on the horizon as I type this. With that said, I think it is a stretch to call the Coliseum one of the great historical arenas in the country. It is just a relatively large, generic arena with some age on it. It is located away from downtown. Most good hotels and restaurants require a drive. As a facility, it really doesn't offer much that is unique. BUT Greensboro is centrally located in ACC territory. It is within driving distance of multiple schools. Tournament games there are quite well attended, even the weekday afternoon games. It does, however, give a semi-homecourt advantage to the four N.C. schools. So I am on the fence about it. I like the idea of rotating the site between Greensboro, Atlanta and NYC.

 

[bagdropper]

Tell me if I'm supposed to be happy or sad if the B10CT is in Des Moines like...ever, Jim.