Border politics

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Obviously the border is a political football. Here's how I see the POLITICS of it playing out.

For Joe and the D's. It's imperative the Senate cuts the Ukraine/Gaza/Israel/Taiwan/border deal. Joe needs to get involved and get it done. Do that and it's get's thrown in the R's lap....if the R controlled House doesn't pass the Senate deal it's on the R's.

If a Senate deal doesn't get cut it's on Joe and the D's.

Basically as simple as that.....politically.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

 

[Huey Grey]

The border is like the debt for the Rs. It only matters when a Dem is in control.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

The border is like the debt for the Rs. It only matters when a Dem is in control.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

The border is like the debt for the Rs. It only matters when a Dem is in control.

True.

You can swap D for R on many issues...and some of the same ones.

Kids in cages and the border were very important to D's from 2016-20. Don't seem to care much now.

Just sayin.

 

[FlickShagwell]

 

[Huey Grey]

Cool a pic to avoid my point that the Rs don't attempt immigration reform when they're in control.

 

[Huey Grey]

True.

You can swap D for R on many issues...and some of the same ones.

Kids in cages and the border were very important to D's from 2016-20. Don't seem to care much now.

Just sayin.

Not true. Dems ran on healthcare and infrastructure for years. Guess what? We got it passed. Where's the Rs on immigration?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Where's the Rs on immigration?

Sitting on Schumer's desk.

House-passed border bill may spark bipartisan immigration talks - Roll Call

House Republicans passed a sweeping border security package Thursday that lawmakers said could spark bipartisan negotiations on immigration.

rollcall.com

 

[Huey Grey]

Sitting on Schumer's desk.

House-passed border bill may spark bipartisan immigration talks - Roll Call

House Republicans passed a sweeping border security package Thursday that lawmakers said could spark bipartisan negotiations on immigration.

rollcall.com

This is like the Rs with the debt. Only time they want to do something is when the Dems are in charge. They had two years under Trump to do immigration. So why did they punt?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

This is like the Rs with the debt. Only time they want to do something is when the Dems are in charge. They had two years under Trump to do immigration. So why did they punt?

D's had 2 years with Biden and punted.

This isn't a one party issue either way.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Border security has become the political football of contentious debates, often kicked back and forth between opposing parties, each seeking to score points with their respective voter bases. Thanks for sharing this.

 

[Huey Grey]

D's had 2 years with Biden and punted.

This isn't a one party issue either way.

Are you serious with this? Dems used their time on infrastructure, COVID relief, and a host of other stuff. To say that they should have also have been able to do immigration is completely unfair.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

To say that they should have also have been able to do immigration is completely unfair.

No it’s not. What a lame excuse.



You can buy it if you want.

 

[LukaDuka]

I live 30 miles from the border. Sleepy Joe has made it the worst crisis in American history by advertising a free and open border. How many terrorists do you think have entered on his watch? Waiting for another 9/11 situation. It's a ticking time bomb!

 

[Chishawk1425]

I live 30 miles from the border. Sleepy Joe has made it the worst crisis in American history by advertising a free and open border. How many terrorists do you think have entered on his watch? Waiting for another 9/11 situation. It's a ticking time bomb!

Bullshit

 

[EasyHawk]

We could easily take action in the rivers and land to make it tougher for illegals. I have a lot of family in Arizona and they all desperately want Biden out so the wave of illegals slows. It’s a nightmare there now. Here is what Egypt has done, we need to make it much tougher to get in. Klueless Kamala ignored Joe’s assignment to fix the border and the country is paying for it now.

 

[Chishawk1425]

We could easily take action in the rivers and land to make it tougher for illegals. I have a lot of family in Arizona and they all desperately want Biden out so the wave of illegals slows. It’s a nightmare there now. Here is what Egypt has done, we need to make it much tougher to get in. Klueless Kamala ignored Joe’s assignment to fix the border and the country is paying for it now.

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The GOP does not and has never wanted to fix the border so it can keep riling up the cult and scare people like you into doubting Biden or even worse think Trump is the answer. Please stop. The GOP and House Speaker already admitted they don't want to act because it'll hurt Biden.

 

[EasyHawk]

The GOP does not and has never wanted to fix the border so it can keep riling up the cult and scare people like you into doubting Biden or even worse think Trump is the answer. Please stop. The GOP and House Speaker already admitted they don't want to act because it'll make hurt Biden.

Apparently Kamala didn’t want to act either, sadly.

 

[EasyHawk]

 

[thewop]

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Did he fully recover? I remember he was pretty rough when he was first elected.

It's a very sensible take by him, but surely strays from the party line.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[Chishawk1425]

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@EasyHawk you get it yet?

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

I live 30 miles from the border. Sleepy Joe has made it the worst crisis in American history by advertising a free and open border. How many terrorists do you think have entered on his watch? Waiting for another 9/11 situation. It's a ticking time bomb!

Advertising? LOL

 

[EasyHawk]

CNN just did a big piece on Biden admitting the border is not secure and record influx in n December. The lovely Erin pointed out Kamala was at one time tasked with fixing the border issues and she will be on tonight at 10.

 

[Gimmered]

OMG that ass!!!!!!!

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[B1GDeal]

It's clear Republicans do not want this fixed. Not now anyway. Maybe not ever since this is a key issue they can trot out to their base. Curious if Democrats will put out something in the next couple of months so Republicans can reject it or do nothing with it. Then, they can say we told you so while campaigning.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Not true. Dems ran on healthcare and infrastructure for years. Guess what? We got it passed. Where's the Rs on immigration?

House-passed border bill may spark bipartisan immigration talks - Roll Call

House Republicans passed a sweeping border security package Thursday that lawmakers said could spark bipartisan negotiations on immigration.

rollcall.com

 

[B1GDeal]

House-passed border bill may spark bipartisan immigration talks - Roll Call

House Republicans passed a sweeping border security package Thursday that lawmakers said could spark bipartisan negotiations on immigration.

rollcall.com

That's disingenuous. Can't take seriously when the house puts unrealistic bill on table... both sides do this. However, Not so long ago Trump had full control and did nothing. Why didn't Rs strike while they had the chance to do something?

 

[Finance85]

It's clear Republicans do not want this fixed. Not now anyway. Maybe not ever since this is a key issue they can trot out to their base. Curious if Democrats will put out something in the next couple of months so Republicans can reject it or do nothing with it. Then, they can say we told you so while campaigning.

What is your basis for saying that?

 

[Finance85]

The GOP does not and has never wanted to fix the border so it can keep riling up the cult and scare people like you into doubting Biden or even worse think Trump is the answer. Please stop. The GOP and House Speaker already admitted they don't want to act because it'll hurt Biden.

What is your basis for saying that?

 

[Chishawk1425]

What is your basis for saying that?

 

[Huey Grey]

House-passed border bill may spark bipartisan immigration talks - Roll Call

House Republicans passed a sweeping border security package Thursday that lawmakers said could spark bipartisan negotiations on immigration.

rollcall.com

The Rs just nuked any real chance we had. So this previous bill, which had no chance, is meaningless. Not sure why you just can't admit the obvious. The Rs don't want the border done because it will give Biden a win.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[hexumhawk]

Build the Wall, Enforce the Law Act introduced (2018)A January 2018 Trump administration proposal for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection called for $18 billion (~$20.8 billion in 2022) in funding for the wall over the following ten years

Remind me again how much we have sent (laundered) to Ukraine.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

That's disingenuous. Can't take seriously when the house puts unrealistic bill on table... both sides do this. However, Not so long ago Trump had full control and did nothing. Why didn't Rs strike while they had the chance to do something?

The question from Huey was what have the R's done....that bill is the answer.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

The Rs just nuked any real chance we had. So this previous bill, which had no chance, is meaningless. Not sure why you just can't admit the obvious. The Rs don't want the border done because it will give Biden a win.

And D's are suddenly concerned about it because it's an election year issue.

I think the deal should be done FWIW.