“Success rests not only on ability, but upon commitment, loyalty, and pride”.
— Vince Lombardi
— Vince Lombardi
Brad Heinrichs(SWARM CEO) is answering questions in this thread. Proctor got $0 from Normal Iowa Fans. “He hadn’t gotten very much yet” from SWARM INC
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I get the angst, but wishing it won't make it so. We live in a world where so many work hard every day just to get by, and to exist, and try to have a future. Yet we pay athletes, (many who have made ZERO effort to educate themselves) 10's of MILLIONS of dollars per year. Many of these players might just as well set the money on fire for all the real good it does anyone. Somewhere along the line we have veered horribly off the path of common sense, and what should be valued. Man has always been his own worst enemy.
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I appreciate everything you've done to get NIL started here. Very thankful because this is a pretty thankless job sometimes. I'm also extremely glad KP didn't get any money from the members of the collective. It makes me want to donate again.
However, aren't you worried about the corporate sponsors after this fiasco? Hypothetically, lets say the total allotted money to KP was going to be $750,000. If he did get paid 15% of that for endorsements and such then he pocketed over $100,000 for spending about 2 months in Iowa City, shooting a commercial and doing social media or whaterver and didn't attend a practice, didn't play a down. Nothing. And in return the companies that chose to have this guy as their face are completely embarrassed. Isn't that concerning? These are the big fish we need to compete and they just threw away a lot of money to have this guy make them look bad.
Again, thanks, but that part of the NIL needs to be figured out. The big fish need to stay as well.
From what I have read elsewhere that 15% was about $15,000 based on the need for the Corporate arm to raise $100,000. But that's just a guess on my part.
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another example of an Iowa fan not knowing that there are 2 arms of SWARM (the collective arm & the SWARM INC arm)
Well, you might think that any business person would be smart enough to require these players to sign a basic contract or stipulated agreement whereby they would be prevented from "stealing" money the way KP has. If you take the money and run, you must pay it back, with interest, in a specified time, or you're subject to being sued.
If the business people didn't do that, then they made a huge mistake, especially with this guy, given his track record. But it should be SOP for anyone.
Keep growing the Swarm Brad!!! Help the coaches, administrators, and Hawkeye nation. Join the Swarm.
www.iowaswarm.com
www.iowaswarm.com
Hopefully Brian Sanger from DCI caught him online gambling while he was here and he will be ineligible for the rest of his career..... Lol
I know no one cares about academics, but I'm curious how you transfer in the middle of a semester; too much of the semester has passed to be able to drop classes.
Not that he likely gives a rats ass about a degree but you can't just an incomplete this late in the semester can you?
Not that he likely gives a rats ass about a degree but you can't just an incomplete this late in the semester can you?
You could do a complete withdrawl, but usually that is for medical reasons or something. I don't think there is as much scrutiny on that as maybe there used to be, especially post-covid.
Sucks for one of the walk-ons who is incurring $8-10 grand in debt this semester who might not have needed to otherwise.
Sucks for one of the walk-ons who is incurring $8-10 grand in debt this semester who might not have needed to otherwise.
You have to be realistic here. There will be NDAs/Confidentiality agreements in play. I very much doubt that @Tx_Hawk - even if he wanted to - disclose the levels of compensation for whatever work performed by Proctor on behalf of a corporate sponsor.
So I actually had to look this up, last drop day without professor approval is 04/15. So you can basically take 80-90% of class now and if it's not going well drop really late and not have it hurt you.
Now, if you went to Iowa a decade or more ago, you would remember drop dates being usually slightly before spring break in March. Just another sign of failing to prepare our youth.
That's crazy. It's been 25 years so I couldn't recall but I thought we were well past drop date.
Thanks for the info.
"We have contracts set up..."
That isn't NIL. That's Pay for Play. Period.
The University of Iowa receives around $100 million from B1G Network annually. Use that money instead of asking fans for their hard earned cash.
Sorry, Brad.
I could win the Powerball but I'll never donate to pay kids who get $100,000+ in scholarship money. John Q College Student doesn't have a platform. He has a job at Chipolte to pay the bills.
This is kind of what I’ve been saying. As a parent of two young adults with significant college debt, it’s absurd to me to think that I should have to donate money so that other college kids — who are already going to college for free — can have a higher standard of living than I do.
Besides that, we’ve learned today that the money “normal” fans donate is simply used to provide the standard ration that all players get for doing their public service work. It’s not being used to reel in top-level recruits.
They paid for an apartment for him that was left out. And he def got money up front.
This is just money shifting. Any way you slice it Iowa got left out to dry.
This is just money shifting. Any way you slice it Iowa got left out to dry.
He probably did this to get a big raise out of bama's nil. Just like when a coach let's it be known he went on an interview and the AD opens up the schools check book.
Apartment is small potatoes. That is done at the high school level to give kids residency while their parents stay in their normal residence out of the school district.
Sorry to those that do but anyone who donates their hard earned money to kids to play sports at your favorite school is a sucker. College football and basketball went to crap really fast. I hope to see a less than half filled Kinnick before I die. It’s highly unlikely but it would be nice to see fans make the point about how gross all this is.
10,000 members = better talent and more winning
Less than 10,000 members = more losing
But that's what I'm concerned about. I feel bad for the group that gave him money.
Proctor last night, on March 19:
I know I'm old but I can't even begin to understand the thinking behind this stuff. Loyalty is such an underrated quality and so hard to find. I was bothered when he went to Bama after committing but whatever. I'm much more frustrated by him coming back (already shady but it's Bama so who cares) and then leaving before playing a down.
I love college football. That and international soccer are my two favorite things to watch. College football is becoming a lot less fun. As corrupt and crappy as FIFA is for soccer you can only change nationalities one time. Not every other month.
Caitlin does not and never has taken Swarm money
There are MUCH more than 10k Iowa alumni that would not lose sleep on contributing 20$ dollars a month for improved fall football entertainment. You spend several hours an afternoon watching the game..what is your time worth after all?
I appreciate what Brad is doing, and obviously don't know the ongoing details of the Swarm marketing strategy.
That said, and not an implied insult to Brad/Swarm, having around 3k total members at this point is borderline disgraceful imo (given the national body of 100's of thousands of Iowa fans).
I would like to know if (and how) Swarm is targeting professional school alumni (mainly those living out of state) that still enjoy watching the games and want to see their alma mater win. If that population is not being specifically targeted, i think it should be.
I appreciate what Brad is doing, and obviously don't know the ongoing details of the Swarm marketing strategy.
That said, and not an implied insult to Brad/Swarm, having around 3k total members at this point is borderline disgraceful imo (given the national body of 100's of thousands of Iowa fans).
I would like to know if (and how) Swarm is targeting professional school alumni (mainly those living out of state) that still enjoy watching the games and want to see their alma mater win. If that population is not being specifically targeted, i think it should be.
I am in this group. Tippie grad out of state. I don’t recall receiving any marketing from Swarm, but I highly doubt the school is allowed to share my contact info with them. My wife and I donate to Tippie and a couple UIHC-related funds annually. I’m not kidding when I say, Brad could show up on my doorstep, get down on his knees and beg, and we would not donate to Swarm.
It’s simply a ridiculous concept when much more impactful funds need help more. I have a feeling it’s ridiculous to *most* high earning alumni but obviously can’t prove that.
Someone with class doesn’t do this. He has zero class and is a Baby HueyProctor last night, on March 19:
Shit, I’d be in coordination with every known Hawkeye affiliated bar across the country.
Have a Venmo setup that can take donations from anyone who wants to do so on game day.
In Southern Cal, I’ve been to Hawk bars downtown San Diego, beach towns, and the burbs. They’ve always been packed with fans (tho it has dropped over the last few years cause of crap product).
People come in, scan Venmo and make whatever donation they want.
But it does seem short sighted if Swarm has not at least provided contact outside state lines
Have a Venmo setup that can take donations from anyone who wants to do so on game day.
In Southern Cal, I’ve been to Hawk bars downtown San Diego, beach towns, and the burbs. They’ve always been packed with fans (tho it has dropped over the last few years cause of crap product).
People come in, scan Venmo and make whatever donation they want.
But it does seem short sighted if Swarm has not at least provided contact outside state lines
I'm sure there was no tampering from Alabama on this go-round, right? LOL
There's no such thing as tampering in this free for all age.
The NCAA has allowed this B$ to happen. Going to be very difficult to spin it back now.
Not quite true, Iowa was penalized for tampering with Proctor.
Only Iowa gets punished, like only Iowa (ISU) players gamble as well!!! :-/
Only Iowa gets punished, like only Iowa (ISU) players gamble as well!!! :-/
