Your cesspool Christmas gift might not arrive this year. Just sayin.This feels facetious, but I'll take it at face value.
No to the HM. It seems most everyone who didn't have their employment at risk was on the same side for this one.
And those who were at risk for termination / lawsuit learned the true composition of their principles. Or, maybe they didn't; rationalization is a helluva drug.
1. I haven’t seen anyone saying the kid or school got rail roaded.Why does it feel like 90% of the people who think this kid and the school is getting railroaded celebrate when a carjacker gets shot?
1. I wasn't referring to people on this board. There's more than just this board in life.1. I haven’t seen anyone saying the kid or school got rail roaded.
2. You might consider getting psychological help….seriously
I sure hope he attends college, wrestles in college and otherwise turn his life around. We've got to remember, that regardless of what a sick act this was, it's still a low level felony. I don't want this kid to burn in hell and kiss his life goodbye for what he did one night when he 16 or 17 and probably drunk as hell. From a juvenile perspective I think they need to be hard as hell on him so that he learns and grows and hopefully won't be a sick f**k ever again. But at the end of the day I'm thinking we all want him to become a fine adult one day. He's clearly got a hard row to hoe going forward, as do his family members and the poor kid he violated. I hate when young people do completely stupid shit without thinking about the consequences before they act...I bet this kid wrestles in college within the same Iowa county.
I hope he learns from this and turns his life around as well but it's weird how many people are focused on Blume and his future with barely a mention of the kid he assaulted or thoughts about how that kid is going to to move ahead and be ok.I sure hope he attends college, wrestles in college and otherwise turn his life around. We've got to remember, that regardless of what a sick act this was, it's still a low level felony. I don't want this kid to burn in hell and kiss his life goodbye for what he did one night when he 16 or 17 and probably drunk as hell. From a juvenile perspective I think they need to be hard as hell on him so that he learns and grows and hopefully won't be a sick f**k ever again. But at the end of the day I'm thinking we all want him to become a fine adult one day. He's clearly got a hard row to hoe going forward, as do his family members and the poor kid he violated. I hate when young people do completely stupid shit without thinking about the consequences before they act...
I'm sure like most criminal cases, the DA cut the best deal he/she felt possible. While serving in one of my jobs back in my Army days I'd meet weekly with the installation prosecuting attorneys to go over cases that were in the works and discuss recommendations for the cases (basically do we settle cases out of court, such as accept a plea agreement or do we let it fly). At the end of the day they never wanted to go into a courthouse and lose so they rarely let it fly. I'm thinking that might be what happened here...though clearly I have no clue since I know zero facts of this case (just like the rest of you). We know what the articles say and we know what the kid plead guilty to but unless we were there, we really don't know the facts.Glad to hear that this is appropriately being handled. Wish it would have stayed in adult court.
Can you imagine a system where the severity of an act really couldn’t be taken into consideration?I read in a news post where they are forming a committee that will be looking to improve for the future. That's good. It will be interesting to see who's on the committee and whether they will issue a report of findings to support their policy change recommendations.
I read in another news post that the board member who resigned took issue with a board leadership stance that it couldn't consider the severity of an act in establishing its punishment and also that it didn't feel it was right to revise their initial punishment. Well, they addressed the latter without a policy revision. I expect the policy change recommendations will address both.
The criminal case had nothing to do with the school boards code of conduct infractions. If you want to tie them in, a guilty plea was the time to do it. Even the cheerleaders knew that, apparently.You don’t understand the process that needed to play out for things to happen as they did. In essence you want to suspend the kid for poss of alcohol before they are confirmed to have been in possession of alcohol. That’s not how it works. There’s a big difference and until two days ago there was no poss of alcohol there was an open case. Big difference.
Um, this is completely wrong. You don't have to break any laws for a school to rule you ineligible. In fact, I am guessing a majority of athletic suspensions don't involve law enforcement or students breaking any actual lawsWrong. Until the case was settled in court, now three days ago, you had an open case I.e no guilty party. That school board and district can’t operate outside the law or beyond district policy. It wasn’t an ideal situation and it’s why they began rewriting policy once the court had a guilty verdict.
They should worry about the victim suing them rather than perp’s family.The school district was waiting for a guilty plea. They were worried about getting sued as well. People were calling for the family to be sued but never thought that the school district could be sued as well
Omg you mean a kid flexed holy shit we have huge news GTFOHMeanwhile... Angelo Ferrari is sitting back with a sigh of relief and realizes that his flexing at the opposing bench may have been cocky and foolish but this Blume kid has stolen the Jackass spotlight for now and the Haters now have a new focal point to direct their attention to. Lets hope they all learn some important life lessons from the mistakes that were made and maturity soon prevails.
Well… I’m not sure he flexed while allegedly mounted on his alleged victim or not.Omg you mean a kid flexed holy shit we have huge news GTFOH
Expulsion wasn’t the initial concern, imo. Allowing the kid to represent a school district in athletic events after a particularly heinous act was.Expulsions take time. This actually makes a lot of sense. To expel a student there are timelines that have to be followed. Just like the district had to follow what their Good Conduct Policy stated.
This discussion might have been really different back in 1987.
Expulsion wasn’t the initial concern, imo. Allowing the kid to represent a school district in athletic events after a particularly heinous act was.
Or they interpreted the policy in a way that got an outcome they were pushed toward? (Threatened toward?)I get that. But, they had to follow whatever policy they had in place with the Good Conduct Policy. I bet they review that soon.
Or they interpreted the policy in a way that got an outcome they were pushed toward? (Threatened toward?)
Who can the victim sue? The school board? The kid who committed the act will face punishment. Can the family also sue him?They should worry about the victim suing them rather than perp’s family.
Can they sue? Sure. Can/Will they win if they did is the real question...Who can the victim sue? The school board? The kid who committed the act will face punishment. Can the family also sue him?
It looks like they might have been tight rope walking the idea that infraction severity couldn’t be taken into account when looking at school sanctions meted out for juvenile offenses.That can certainly happen too. I guess we will never know on that one.
I am a bit surprised no one jumped on the "1987" in an earlier post.
They are elected officials. Their continued employment as school board members is a political decision. I believe the court of public opinion will control their fate. They probably didn't do the right thing, if keeping their job was paramount in their decision-making process. Also one already did not keep her job, since she voluntarily resigned.make sure they keep their jobs over some high school wrestler
I am wondering too. Title should be changed if no expulsion. -- suspension is well deservedSo is he expelled from the school, or suspended from participating in extracurricular school activities?
They are elected officials. Their continued employment as school board members is a political decision. I believe the court of public opinion will control their fate. They probably didn't do the right thing, if keeping their job was paramount in their decision-making process. Also one already did not keep her job, since she voluntarily resigned.
I am wondering too. Title should be changed if no expulsion. -- suspension is well deserved
Because all records of juvenile offenses are sealed... making severity difficult to take into account?couldn’t be taken into account when looking at school sanctions meted out for juvenile offenses
No need to get courts involved in school conduct policy. The school knew he was charged with crime and that’s all it takes to get made ineligible for sports in state of Iowa.Because all records of juvenile offenses are sealed... making severity difficult to take into account?
Good question.What benefits do they receive as a school board member at RS? They are not paid.
Yep.I’m guessing a school district can make guidelines that are more strict that state mandate but I doubt less strict will fly.
Good question.
I understand they are non-salaried public officials. I am pretty sure that means they get paid an hourly rate for official public meetings etc, and perhaps reimbursed for some costs. In other words, I believe it's a "side-gig" and they receive some modest payment.
But I agree with you on the bigger picture, in that I doubt their decisions were based on likelihood of continuing in their position.
Thanks. I read somewhere on HR that Roland-Story was a cash cow that needed to protect its interests, which likely biased my perception.like almost all small schools
Thanks. I read somewhere on HR that Roland-Story was a cash cow that needed to protect its interests, which likely biased my perception.
This year I acted as a non-salaried public official (election judge) for my county. I was surprised to learn that I would be paid.
Maybe as the old saying goes, "You get what you pay for."
Haven't seen it published in any news report. They are probably younger than 16, were considered a juvenile from the beginning, and so all records have been sealed and identity protected from the beginning.other perpetrator
He humiliated another human beyond my comprehension. Just try to imagine how that kid, who is publicly known in his area, feels? How does the victim even look at anyone at his school again? Blume should feel very lucky that the victim's father so far seems to be forgiving. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be.I apologize that respectfully expressing my opinion in detail bothers you that much. It’s not an easy subject and do respect a different opinion.